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#21 aliali

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Posted 04 August 2013 - 11:34 AM

I would also like to point out that the definition of a system builder is really anyone that is for all purposes building their own PC.

For Win 8 yes but for Win 7 nope. You are only a system builder if you then sell the PC to someone, after building it and doing the Windows pre-install.

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#22 gongguy

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Posted 20 March 2014 - 06:28 PM

i just bought a new system,in parts, from pc casegear. can i also buy the win7 pro oem from them to install on it? do u only get the key or discs as well?
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Posted 20 March 2014 - 07:08 PM

Yes, gongguy. Despite what's been said in this thread, and what it published on Microsoft's website as per linkies provided, you can actually purchase and use OEM System Builder Windows on your PC. What Microsoft claims by saying that you need to purchase Retail windows is what they'd like to see happen, not what the legal status of licensing dictates.

When you purchase and use OEM System Builder windows you become the "licensor", not the end-user. Licensor is the person responsible for assigning the license to and end user. The end-user license in invoked at the moment the purchaser (licensor) opens the shrink-wrap seal.

So if you purchase and use OEM system Builder Windows for your own machine, it really (legally) only means that there's an extra step involved in the legal process. You first become the 'licensor' and then, by virtue of assigning the license to yourself, you become the 'end-user'. Microsoft's claim that you're not allowed to do it does not stand up to legal scrutiny!



Oh! And that bit about having to buy OEM System Builder windows with hardware? Not true. Hasn't been true since back when Windows XP was current version. Microsoft removed that condition of sale back when Vista was first released. Any retailers making such a demand/condition of sale are doing so of their own initiative, not coz it's what Microsoft makes them do :)

#24 gongguy

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Posted 20 March 2014 - 07:55 PM

ok kool,ill get back on to pc casegear and buy the oem win7 pro 64 cheers!!!
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Posted 20 March 2014 - 10:25 PM

Hi Catweazle, thank you for posting the kind of nonsense this thread was designed to prevent.

Despite what's been said in this thread, and what it published on Microsoft's website as per linkies provided, you can actually purchase and use OEM System Builder Windows on your PC.


"Despite" ?????

From the OP:
Fact: System builders are able to sell you system-builder one- or three-packs provided that the seal has not been broken. This transfers the role of system builder from the store to you.

And that paraphrases what's linked to in that post.

What Microsoft claims by saying that you need to purchase Retail windows is what they'd like to see happen, not what the legal status of licensing dictates.


They don't "claim" that you "need to", but they do suggest retail copies for end users for a variety of reasons. Primarily that retail copies come with free technical support, and are transferable if you buy a new PC.

When you purchase and use OEM System Builder windows you become the "licensor", not the end-user. Licensor is the person responsible for assigning the license to and end user. The end-user license in invoked at the moment the purchaser (licensor) opens the shrink-wrap seal.

So if you purchase and use OEM system Builder Windows for your own machine, it really (legally) only means that there's an extra step involved in the legal process. You first become the 'licensor' and then, by virtue of assigning the license to yourself, you become the 'end-user'. Microsoft's claim that you're not allowed to do it does not stand up to legal scrutiny!


Firstly, don't mangle terms. Microsoft is the licensor. Where you're said "licensor" here, the correct term in this context is "system builder".

Secondly, yes, you've re-iterated exactly what the OP said:

This transfers the role of system builder from the store to you.

Oh! And that bit about having to buy OEM System Builder windows with hardware? Not true. Hasn't been true since back when Windows XP was current version. Microsoft removed that condition of sale back when Vista was first released. Any retailers making such a demand/condition of sale are doing so of their own initiative, not coz it's what Microsoft makes them do :)


No, it's completely true (remembering the distinction between opened and unopened packs), and is unchanged from previous versions of Windows.

Gongguy here is completely entitled to go buy a system builder copy of Windows, nothing in this thread states to the contrary.

Edited by SquallStrife, 20 March 2014 - 10:26 PM.

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