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#1 orcone

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Posted 22 January 2011 - 09:47 PM

Hi guys,
I've recently designed my website for my business I have on the side. It consists of 5 pages, (Home, Services, Specials, About, Contact Us) and the "Contact Us" page has an online form that can be filled out to send queries and questions straight to my email.
I've seeked quotes from various websites who specialise in this area, and the quotes differ quite substantially. I design my site in Photoshop and have the background images, text, logos and promotional images neatly organised in a .PSD file.

I've received the following quotes from these sites. What I'd like to know is have any of you heard of these businesses, or used their services before?

http://www.psdgator.com - $320 approx
This company is based in Greece and can have my work completed in 3 business days.

http://www.psd2html.com - $430 approx
This site was recommended to me by a web developer based in Australia, but they seem to be the most expensive of the lot. They seem the most professional though.

http://www.xhtmlchop.com - $180 approx
The cheapest of the lot, however dealing with them I've noticed whoever I'm speaking to doesn't have a very good grasp of English, leaving me a little uneasy.

http://www.thepsdslicers.com - $270 approx
http://www.xhtmlweaver.com - $270 approx
These two businesses are the local option as both are based in Sydney. They're pricey though considering the other sites and our strong Australian dollar.

I can see myself most likely going with ThePSDSlicers as their customer support is quick and friendly. I know my question is probably not really asked around here much, as you're all designers, but in your time online have you ever heard of these businesses?

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Posted 23 January 2011 - 06:56 AM

Wow.How do people working in that industry eat! hehehe

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Posted 23 January 2011 - 08:02 AM

have you tried doing ur own? dreamweaver is a excellent program for web design and there is some good tutorials around as well but it does take a lot of time just a thought

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Posted 23 January 2011 - 08:38 AM

2 suggestions - go Australian, and check their previous work / portfolio. Otherwise, have a crack yourself - you will get plenty of support here. Whether you design the site or get somebody else to check it works in the major browsers (ie7, ie8, ff, chrome, safari).
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Posted 23 January 2011 - 10:37 AM

The time required to cut a site depends on:
  • The number of actual templates; not the same as pages, quotes site based on pages should be avoided, they don't know what they are doing
  • The complexity of the design; hard one to really describe unless you understand HTML and CSS well (in which case you can do it yourself!), some designs are easy to translate others require a lot more work
  • Minimum browser support; getting a design to work in one browser is easy, getting it to work in all browsers (or at least a nominated minimum) is not so easy.
The outcome of the job should include a CMS as this allows you to easily manage any content/add pages as required. This may not be something you expect to happen straight up but over time contact information, or just general information will change.

I'd offer you a quote but since you seem to be aiming for the bottom of the barrel in terms of price I'll be too expensive. ;)

Edited by SledgY, 23 January 2011 - 10:38 AM.

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#6 orcone

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Posted 23 January 2011 - 11:54 AM

I've attempted to set it up myself, but found myself quickly overwhelmed. I know enough about HTML, but CSS at this stage seemed to throw me and I'd rather have a professional do it. I'm not aiming for the bottom of the barrel, because I believe I've completed most of the work. The layout, content, slicing and more have all been completed by me, and if I really wanted to I could throw this all into some sort of website creation program and have some shitty code thrown out. So, contrary to the bottom of the barrel, I'm merely aiming for what I think is a fair price.

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Posted 23 January 2011 - 12:28 PM

Wow.How do people working in that industry eat! hehehe

Am I wrong in thinking it's ~3 hours work, and that ~$90/hr is about what you'd expect for this type of work?

I don't necessarily think you're aiming for the bottom of the barrel orcone. It doesn't sound like you need a CMS and all those other bells and whistles, it sounds like you're capable of editing the content in the HTML when it's required.

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Edited by robzy, 23 January 2011 - 12:33 PM.


#8 kikz

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Posted 23 January 2011 - 01:30 PM

lol it'd probably take me 3 hours to pull the images out of the psd's.

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Posted 23 January 2011 - 01:38 PM

lol it'd probably take me 3 hours to pull the images out of the psd's.

Why?

Whenever I send my PSD's out I label each layer, arrange them into layer groups along with a text file explaining each file.

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Posted 23 January 2011 - 02:09 PM

lol it'd probably take me 3 hours to pull the images out of the psd's.

Spend 15 minutes slicing it in Photoshop.

File -> Save As For Web -> Spend a bit of time mucking around with quality -> Save

Done.

But if we wish to examine closely, the hourly rate for such skills would be more like $60, right, if not less? And if we want to compare it to what we know is required to eat - we ought to take the Australian quote - $430. So that's more like 7 hours.

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#11 kikz

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Posted 23 January 2011 - 03:38 PM

$60 an hour? Do companies really charge their labour out at $60 an hour? Junior programmers freshly minted from Uni charged out at $120/hr over 10 years ago.


lol it'd probably take me 3 hours to pull the images out of the psd's.

Why?

Whenever I send my PSD's out I label each layer, arrange them into layer groups along with a text file explaining each file.

Primarily because I'm not a web designer and don't know how to use photoshop. My experience is somewhat different that creating static web pages, but our designers give as png's/psd which are mocks of the actual screens we're going implement. Include text. I find that, depending on the sanity of the designer, I can spend a lot of time pulling images out of the supplied designs, extracting text from buttons etc (all our buttons and mostly our headings are generated service-side, so a logout link/button might look something like
<a href="Logout.aspx" alt="Logout"><img src="http://myserver.com/button.aspx/title=Logout&w=100&h=20&type=blue' /></a>

I suppose I can see how 5-7 hours or so to do a simple static site of 5 pages, devoid of content, with no fancy animates etc is doable.

Edited by kikz, 23 January 2011 - 03:47 PM.


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Posted 23 January 2011 - 05:04 PM

lol it'd probably take me 3 hours to pull the images out of the psd's.

Why?

Whenever I send my PSD's out I label each layer, arrange them into layer groups along with a text file explaining each file.

That would save a lot of time, the PSD's I get are often just have a heap of layers added haphazardly (although not documenting stuff is common in the web industry :( ) if you do document that would save some time although also consider how you would cut it might vary on how a developer will cut it. Once you start using CSS backgrounds and sprite images there are lots of tricks that get used to create the design. Often when given pre-cut images I end up stitching a lot of the design back together.

Would still suggest using a simple CMS (MODx is a good choice) if you are not comfortable with building it yourself. I've built hundreds of sites and would never go back to using static html for anything more than a single page. If you need to change a word or add a link on every page, it can be made via any browser when you site is in a CMS.

Those sites you linked to look ok, well at least there own HTML is clean, would look at the Australia based ones as it's easy to get on the phone to somebody local.
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Posted 24 January 2011 - 09:19 AM

My advice ... since you are so close already, you should have a go at doing it yourself.

Learn CSS and have a go putting it together using a text-editor style IDE - Aptana, Notepad++, anything that will highlight your HTML+CSS+JS syntax.

It will be a bit of work, and you may not even use it - you may decide to get it done by another professional - BUT it will make your designs better in future.
A designer who actually has an idea about CSS and how to structure a good layout is a huge advantage!

And you may even find that you don't mind doing it yourself! ;-)

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Posted 25 January 2011 - 04:37 PM

Yeh the kind of cutting and coding you seem to be quoting up I think you could probably learn quite easily. Personally if I was in your shoes and spending money I would be getting someone to setup a cms. Static pages will put a spanner in the works if you wish to expand. Also $60/h is a bit ridiculous. Maybe from a new graduate or sweatshop.

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Posted 26 January 2011 - 02:21 PM

Also $60/h is a bit ridiculous. Maybe from a new graduate or sweatshop.

A new graduate should have bucketloads more skills than what's required to cut up a PSD and put it into some boilerplate HTML.

A new graduate should be overqualified.

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Posted 27 January 2011 - 10:27 AM

Muahahaha ... good luck with that Robzy, doesn't match up with my experience of Uni!

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Posted 27 January 2011 - 11:31 AM

Muahahaha ... good luck with that Robzy, doesn't match up with my experience of Uni!

Point taken :P

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#18 orcone

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 04:53 PM

Well that was a pleasant surprise. Had my code ready after one day, and my site is up and running already! Have a few things to change such as font sizes and to get my "Contact Us" form working. That was so much simpler than learning it myself :)

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 07:34 PM

I've attempted to set it up myself, but found myself quickly overwhelmed. I know enough about HTML, but CSS at this stage seemed to throw me and I'd rather have a professional do it.


I don't think there would be any need for CSS in the few simple pages you have mentioned there...You'd be far better off learning to make your own in Dreamweaver, what you have there is a simple enough start.
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Posted 22 September 2017 - 10:02 PM

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