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#261 osama_bin_athlon

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 11:56 AM

watches tumbleweed rolling down the street.......
after a further play around, I managed to wring a few extra Mhz out the CPU - upping the BCLK gives some strange results, it appears that 102 is the sweet spot, 103 was actually significantly slower, 104 produced a BSOD running 3DMark 11, 102.2 caused it to just seize up running 3DMark.....102 and all is well
3DMark 11:
P8287 - osama_bin_athlon - 2500K @ 4895 MHz - GTX560 SLI - 906/2404 - http://3dmark.com/3dm11/2862062
Vantage:
P31583 - osama_bin_athlon - 2500K @ 4895 MHz - GTX560 SLI - 906/2404 - http://3dmark.com/3dmv/3928300
3DMark06:
33688 3DMarks - osama_bin_athlon - 2500K @ 4895 MHz - GTX560 SLI - 906/2404 - http://3dmark.com/3dm06/16501376

Edited by osama_bin_athlon, 29 February 2012 - 12:09 PM.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 01:49 PM

very nice clock speed and score poison
i think i just experienced a similar bug to you in heaven but i know tessellation was working
score 2470 fps 98.1 with one 7970 at 1210\1846
http://i3.photobucke...70heavenbug.jpg
pc locked up 2sec after saving the result...

thats very strange. I might try doing 4-5 consecutive heaven runs on the weekend or something and see if it does happen to one of the results.
very nice heaven score though :)

watches tumbleweed rolling down the street.......
after a further play around, I managed to wring a few extra Mhz out the CPU - upping the BCLK gives some strange results, it appears that 102 is the sweet spot, 103 was actually significantly slower, 104 produced a BSOD running 3DMark 11, 102.2 caused it to just seize up running 3DMark.....102 and all is well
3DMark 11:
P8287 - osama_bin_athlon - 2500K @ 4895 MHz - GTX560 SLI - 906/2404 - http://3dmark.com/3dm11/2862062
Vantage:
P31583 - osama_bin_athlon - 2500K @ 4895 MHz - GTX560 SLI - 906/2404 - http://3dmark.com/3dmv/3928300
3DMark06:
33688 3DMarks - osama_bin_athlon - 2500K @ 4895 MHz - GTX560 SLI - 906/2404 - http://3dmark.com/3dm06/16501376

did you find you had to alter anything else, or just the BCLK? I've tried changing mine to 100.5/101/102 etc. and it doesn't boot at anything but 100.00. :(
nice score mate, good to see more contributions. i think you'll find there is limited gain from overclocking the 2500k though. My 3dMark11 score only increased by about 500 points going from 4.6 to 5.2.
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Posted 29 February 2012 - 04:35 PM

very nice clock speed and score poison
i think i just experienced a similar bug to you in heaven but i know tessellation was working
score 2470 fps 98.1 with one 7970 at 1210\1846
http://i3.photobucke...70heavenbug.jpg
pc locked up 2sec after saving the result...

thats very strange. I might try doing 4-5 consecutive heaven runs on the weekend or something and see if it does happen to one of the results.
very nice heaven score though :)

watches tumbleweed rolling down the street.......
after a further play around, I managed to wring a few extra Mhz out the CPU - upping the BCLK gives some strange results, it appears that 102 is the sweet spot, 103 was actually significantly slower, 104 produced a BSOD running 3DMark 11, 102.2 caused it to just seize up running 3DMark.....102 and all is well
3DMark 11:
P8287 - osama_bin_athlon - 2500K @ 4895 MHz - GTX560 SLI - 906/2404 - http://3dmark.com/3dm11/2862062
Vantage:
P31583 - osama_bin_athlon - 2500K @ 4895 MHz - GTX560 SLI - 906/2404 - http://3dmark.com/3dmv/3928300
3DMark06:
33688 3DMarks - osama_bin_athlon - 2500K @ 4895 MHz - GTX560 SLI - 906/2404 - http://3dmark.com/3dm06/16501376

did you find you had to alter anything else, or just the BCLK? I've tried changing mine to 100.5/101/102 etc. and it doesn't boot at anything but 100.00. :(
nice score mate, good to see more contributions. i think you'll find there is limited gain from overclocking the 2500k though. My 3dMark11 score only increased by about 500 points going from 4.6 to 5.2.



all I've altered is the BCLK, the multiplier, and the RAM settings, all else is on auto - I tried doing it with manual settings, but the BIOS doesn't seem to like that - corrupted a perfectly good windows install - appears to love being in charge, I guess.....
yeh, I was actually quite surprised when my comp booted and loaded windows with a BCLK of 104 - pity it wasn't stable. my first 2500K didn't like you touching the BCLK at all - like yours
I've been getting better results than what you quote - just the small jump in overclock cited here produced more than that.....
from my experience with 2x 2500K's, they seem to vary quite a bit in overclocking headroom - BCLK, multiplier and voltages required all differ quite a bit - still, they're a tasty piece of kit, without a doubt the best bang for buck Intel's ever produced.....I'd even go so far as to say the best bang for buck ever produced.
yeh, I'm pretty happy with it
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Posted 29 February 2012 - 05:18 PM

all I've altered is the BCLK, the multiplier, and the RAM settings, all else is on auto - I tried doing it with manual settings, but the BIOS doesn't seem to like that - corrupted a perfectly good windows install - appears to love being in charge, I guess.....
yeh, I was actually quite surprised when my comp booted and loaded windows with a BCLK of 104 - pity it wasn't stable. my first 2500K didn't like you touching the BCLK at all - like yours
I've been getting better results than what you quote - just the small jump in overclock cited here produced more than that.....
from my experience with 2x 2500K's, they seem to vary quite a bit in overclocking headroom - BCLK, multiplier and voltages required all differ quite a bit - still, they're a tasty piece of kit, without a doubt the best bang for buck Intel's ever produced.....I'd even go so far as to say the best bang for buck ever produced.
yeh, I'm pretty happy with it


thanks for that mate. looks like i just have a cpu that doesn't like BCLK change. I suppose i will forgive it, given its a decent overclocker anyway.

I should have rephrased that as to limited gain in 3dmark 11. From your 4.8 to 4.9ghz results, your 3dmark11 score only went up 60 points, so hypothetically with a 300-400mhz increase in CPU clock speed, score would only improve by another 300ish points at most. I agree they are most certainly a great value piece of kit, up to 5.2ghz+ stable quad core for ~$215 - with warranty and an overclocking replacement plan.
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Posted 29 February 2012 - 06:31 PM

3DMark 11 is just brutal, it'll be a long time before we see 'decent' looking scores and larger gains - at the moment every point is a battle
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 07:45 PM

is this site still being maintained? (hears echo....)
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 08:05 PM

is this site still being maintained? (hears echo....)


It seems to get updated every now and then.

I've got a new score too.
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Edited by p0is0n, 07 March 2012 - 08:06 PM.

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 06:03 AM

so, nobody takes any interest any more? that's sad the Tech sections hardly move these days.....like the ForSale section me remembers the 'good old days' when this place used to really jump. what happened?

Edited by osama_bin_athlon, 08 March 2012 - 06:04 AM.

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 07:54 AM

so, nobody takes any interest any more?
that's sad
the Tech sections hardly move these days.....like the ForSale section
me remembers the 'good old days' when this place used to really jump.
what happened?


This gets updated every now and again, considering one person is maintaining it it's not suh a big problem, just wait, it will be updated soon :).

Benchmarking was popular a few years back, but it doesn't seem to be as popular any more. Take the competition i ran before christmas with 3DMark 2001SE. 2 entries for a 3 week competition....Needless to say those two entreis came in the top 2 :P

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 11:28 AM

Benchmarking doesn't seem to be as popular here anyway, but it is still very popular elsewhere on the internet.

Its only really as active as we make it, so I got another new score :D
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Posted 08 March 2012 - 11:38 AM

It was only updated 3 weeks ago >< I don't update super regularly because I'd only have to update 2 days later when they improve their scores.. I'll do it now.
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Posted 08 March 2012 - 11:53 AM

Okay all done, and that pair of 560's is pretty quick! =O With a 2600k that would be closer to 10k! And poison, 10.6k single GPU is mad, that is all I can say ...... Nobody, thanks for submitting some legacy hardware =D
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Posted 08 March 2012 - 12:24 PM

Okay all done, and that pair of 560's is pretty quick! =O With a 2600k that would be closer to 10k!

And poison, 10.6k single GPU is mad, that is all I can say ......

Nobody, thanks for submitting some legacy hardware =D


Thanks Morgoth I managed to nail top spot on OCAU single card too.. for now...
My 2600k does 5.0 easy but because my RAM only does 1600 @ 5.0, scores are actually 50-100 points lower than the above. :/
Might need to really push it if when someone beats this.

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 12:50 PM

did you find you had to alter anything else, or just the BCLK? I've tried changing mine to 100.5/101/102 etc. and it doesn't boot at anything but 100.00. :(
nice score mate, good to see more contributions. i think you'll find there is limited gain from overclocking the 2500k though. My 3dMark11 score only increased by about 500 points going from 4.6 to 5.2.


ive found with mine u to see any real world gain going past 4.6 u also need 1600mhz ram, im running the 1333 cas7 F3 X ripjaws and going past 4.6, even upto 5ghz i see less than 200 points difference, but uping the ram to 1600 and beyond then i see a noticeable difference, my single 3dmark11 single GTX460 score didnt break 4k unless i had cpu at 4.6 and ram at 1600. when i ran 5ghz and 1333 i only got 3990 or 4005 (with gpus at default clocks). I found across multiple benchmarks that 4.6, ram 1600/cas8, and gpu at peak OC that there was a clear sweet spot for performance. I also found 4.8, and 1600 gave less score and a drop in fps over all. the 4455 3dmark single gpu score i managed has since been beaten by a score of 4502 but i forgot to post the link here and lost it. :(

If ur running 1866 or 2k+ ram i feel that's the only time u will benefit from going beyond 4.6 especially if ur running previous gen gpus that depend a lot more on the cpu.

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could u run a single card for 3dmark11 performance. id like to compare the difference between your system and mine since they r relatively similar.

Edited by Modz, 08 March 2012 - 12:56 PM.


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Posted 08 March 2012 - 06:36 PM

No worries Morgoth/3dmark master :-D

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 06:55 PM

*Record smashing bench testing day.

Not only have i smasehd my previous personal atomic score record, i smashed the Official EVGA GTX460 Single Card record by over 200 points. *e. plus beat my previous sli score by 1k :D

http://www.evga.com/...mpage=9#1487790


***FIXED FORMATTING, sorry i was meant to and forgot.

Single:
P4812 - Modz85 - 2500K@4.7(a) - (1) 460 1GB @970/2320(a) - 3dmark.com/3dm11/2916271

SLI:
P8221 - Modz85 - 2500K@4.7(a) - (2) 460 1GB @970/2320(a) - 3dmark.com/3dm11/2916317

Benchlog:
Primary GTX460 SLOT #1:
3dmark.com/3dm11/2915879 - P4615 - 930/2000 - mV 1000 - (2nd card phx 930/2000)
3dmark.com/3dm11/2915905 - P4658 - 940/2000 - mV 1050 - (2nd card phx 930/2000) <-- Broke previous EVGA #1 record, (P4634)
3dmark.com/3dm11/2915921 - P4693 - 950/2000 - mV 1050 - (2nd card phx 930/2000)
3dmark.com/3dm11/2915944 - P4726 - 960/2000 - mV 1050 - (2nd card phx 930/2000)
3dmark.com/3dm11/2916025 - P4770 - 970/2000 - mV 1087 - (2nd card phx 930/2000)
3dmark.com/3dm11/2916085 - P4774 - 970/2000 - mV 1087 - (Primary card phx)
3dmark.com/3dm11/2916059 - P4775 - 970/2000 - mV 1087 - (2nd card phx 930/2000)
3dmark.com/3dm11/2916110 - P4778 - 970/2100 - mV 1087 - (2nd card phx 930/2000)
3dmark.com/3dm11/2916136 - P4789 - 970/2150 - mV 1087 - (2nd card phx 930/2000)
3dmark.com/3dm11/2916151 - P4791 - 970/2175 - mV 1087 - (2nd card phx 930/2000)
3dmark.com/3dm11/2916176 - P4800 - 970/2200 - mV 1087 - (2nd card phx 930/2000)
3dmark.com/3dm11/2916198 - P4802 - 970/2225 - mV 1087 - (2nd card phx 930/2000)
3dmark.com/3dm11/2916216 - P4802 - 970/2250 - mV 1087 - (2nd card phx 930/2000)
3dmark.com/3dm11/2916244 - P4800 - 970/2300 - mV 1087 - (Primary card phx)
3dmark.com/3dm11/2916271 - P4812 - 970/2320 - mV 1087 - (Primary card phx) (Absoluse max stable)
FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL - P NIL - 970/2330 - mV 1087 - (Primary card phx) (Green artifacting)
FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL - P NIL - 970/2340 - mV 1087 - (Primary card phx) (Afterburner max setting)

2nd GTX460 SLOT #2:
3dmark.com/3dm11/2915766 - P4642 - 930/2000 - mV 1087 -(2nd card phx) <-- Also Broke previous EVGA #1 record, (P4634)

SLI Score:
3dmark.com/3dm11/2916317 - P8221 - 970/2321 & 930/2000 - mV 1087 - (Primary card phx) <- (osama_bin_athlon how close to ur sli score do i wanna get :p)

Edited by Modz, 23 March 2012 - 09:25 PM.


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Posted 08 March 2012 - 07:11 PM

Nice work Modz!
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Posted 08 March 2012 - 07:12 PM

sorry for the score formatting i was lazy and copy/paste it from the evga forums thread :P

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 07:14 PM

*jiz* :-P EDIT: Doesn't matter when fixed, but I'm below a lower score on 3DMark06

Edited by nobody813, 08 March 2012 - 07:16 PM.

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 07:47 PM

did you find you had to alter anything else, or just the BCLK? I've tried changing mine to 100.5/101/102 etc. and it doesn't boot at anything but 100.00. :(
nice score mate, good to see more contributions. i think you'll find there is limited gain from overclocking the 2500k though. My 3dMark11 score only increased by about 500 points going from 4.6 to 5.2.


ive found with mine u to see any real world gain going past 4.6 u also need 1600mhz ram, im running the 1333 cas7 F3 X ripjaws and going past 4.6, even upto 5ghz i see less than 200 points difference, but uping the ram to 1600 and beyond then i see a noticeable difference, my single 3dmark11 single GTX460 score didnt break 4k unless i had cpu at 4.6 and ram at 1600. when i ran 5ghz and 1333 i only got 3990 or 4005 (with gpus at default clocks). I found across multiple benchmarks that 4.6, ram 1600/cas8, and gpu at peak OC that there was a clear sweet spot for performance. I also found 4.8, and 1600 gave less score and a drop in fps over all. the 4455 3dmark single gpu score i managed has since been beaten by a score of 4502 but i forgot to post the link here and lost it. :(

If ur running 1866 or 2k+ ram i feel that's the only time u will benefit from going beyond 4.6 especially if ur running previous gen gpus that depend a lot more on the cpu.

@osama_bin_athlon
could u run a single card for 3dmark11 performance. id like to compare the difference between your system and mine since they r relatively similar.



yeh, I'm running 8G 2133Mhz G.Skill Ripjawsx - only $30 odd difference.......
yeh, I'll try and get around to it, p0is0n - i don't really like/want to start pulling my comp apart, tho........
were you looking at overclocked? I never really pushed it (like didn't get to artifacting, so I'm assuming that I can go higher :) ) do you want me to?
the Asus variation of the GTX560, with the fancy schmancy cooling are great little cards, i'm glad that I didn't get another ATI/AMD card, or fork out the extra for a couple of GTX560Ti's
I like them.
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