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#1 p0is0n

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Posted 26 April 2012 - 04:02 PM

Hey guys, I'm putting together a new PC for my GF as diablo 3 is almost out, and i know her machine won't run it well. She also plays WoW and will play skyrim on it. Her job also requires a lot of computing power (university IT) so didn't want to hand her down a POS box, will probably run a few virtual machines as well as game. I've sourced most of my parts off OCAU, except a few things i'd rather not buy second hand and got new like the HDD. CPU: i7 Xeon W3570 (batch # 3846A803 supposed "gem batch") HSF: CM Hyper 212+ Mobo: GB X58A-UD7 RAM: 6x2GB DDR3 2000MHz GPU: Either HD6850 1GB or HD5870 1GB (probably the 5870) HDD: WD 1TB Blue - WD10EALX (she can get an SSD if she wants one later) ODD: Pioneer DVD burner Case: Fractal Arc Midi (she liked mine before i butchered it and honestly its a great case) PSU: My old OCZ 600w Total cost was about $800 so not too bad, although I could have probably skimped a bit and got cheaper parts, I think this will last a while. It is a bit late to suggest different parts as i've got almost all of it, just waiting on 2 bits, but enough to build it tonight or on the weekend. The real reason for this thread, i've never tried to OC x58 before, so basically I am after any tips :) Apparently the CPU is good for 4.0+ at stock volts but he never tried any higher, the motherboard also came with blocks and stock cooler. I was tempted to chuck it in my machine, and give her my z68 board and cpu. I also feel like i've missed something, so feel free to point it out if I did (don't say windows license). Cheers

Edited by p0is0n, 26 April 2012 - 05:36 PM.

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Posted 26 April 2012 - 04:55 PM

i'd prollly just chuck the ssd in now and be done with it and i think she'll be very happy with a 5870
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#3 p0is0n

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Posted 26 April 2012 - 05:10 PM

i'd prollly just chuck the ssd in now and be done with it

and i think she'll be very happy with a 5870


haha maybe next pay :/

thanks mate :)

edit: found this okay guide (from gigabyte) for oc on x58. its quite different to 775 and 1155 which i've got experience with. anyone know a guide that's less beginner orientated?

edit again: also found this which should give me the info I need :)

Edited by p0is0n, 26 April 2012 - 05:41 PM.

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 05:40 PM

Well, I quickly assembled this machine last night, and when I was finished, it booted up alright (always a relief, especially with used parts from multiple sellers) and so i configured the bios and booted back into it.

First thing I did was check temps, and noticed CPU ~32C which is fine, and mobo at ~51C which didn't seem right. when i bought the board, it originally came with water blocks, and i took em off and put the stock mobo heatsink back on.. it occured to me that I didn't actually check the pads or use any paste. the pads were all fine, and a blob on paste on the NB brought temps back down to around 45C which still seemed high. After a bit of googling, seems like this is pretty normal for X58 as its just a hot chipset.

Installed windows from here without any issues.

Second problem was that only 2/3 sticks of RAM were detected. BIOS detected 4GB, windows detected 6GB (but could only use 4GB). Apparently also a common issue with X58, managed to correct it by swapping the RAM DIMMS around and disabling quick boot.

EDIT: This is actually still an issue, so if anyone has any ideas, please speak up :)
Edit Two: Updated BIOS now from F6 to F9a and re-seated the RAM again, seems to have fixed again.. looks like a lot of people have had this issue with X58 - quite discouraging :(

Third problem this 5870 is noisy as fuck, like some problem with the fan. I did a google and read countless threads suggesting to 'oil' the fan up, so I dismantled the card into 4 layers, removed the fan from the shroud only to discover, you can't oil these ATI fans, and hundreds of people on-line gave out some shitty advice, big surprise. I cleaned it best as I could anyway, and it didn't seem noisy when dismantled, so I re-assembled it and plugged it back in, and seems to be quiet again. Win. If the noise keeps up, I am hoping the stock fan off my 7970 will be the same size, as its under water and not required.

Now its pretty much good to go, here is a token picture of the build in my workshop before I tidy it all up, excuse photo quality.
I also somehow managed to cut myself on the 212+ twice, while unclipping the fan. I haven't cut myself on a build for ages, its actually quite deep and has been stinging all day (very tip of my finger sliced down the middle). Be warned these coolers are sharp!

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Edited by p0is0n, 27 April 2012 - 07:13 PM.

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 07:43 PM

a build isn't a proper build unless you draw some blood somewhere along the line haha
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 07:50 AM

a build isn't a proper build unless you draw some blood somewhere along the line haha


This is very true. Unless there is a sacrifice of blood when building you will constantly have to troubleshoot. Next rig I just plan on filling a loop with blood to save time later on.
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 07:14 PM

I sacrifice small kittens to my silicone god, and so far its worked great. :)

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 07:22 PM

your GF would be truly happy for your sacrifice mate. Good job on the rig. Nice and tidy. :)

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 08:27 PM

+1 on the cooler cutting mods. i thought that fucker was my system for a minute, i was gonna ask you how you got a photo of it.
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Posted 04 May 2012 - 12:13 AM

Very cool ^^ X58 still requires a fair bit of tweaking, unlike 775 and 1156. Northbridge runs up to scorching temps without failure, don't worry about it. To OC the BLCK and RAM, you need to incrementally increase QPI/VTT voltage. There's a few basic guides going around the web which explain it well. GL!
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#11 p0is0n

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 01:10 AM

Very cool ^^

X58 still requires a fair bit of tweaking, unlike 775 and 1156.

Northbridge runs up to scorching temps without failure, don't worry about it.

To OC the BLCK and RAM, you need to incrementally increase QPI/VTT voltage.

There's a few basic guides going around the web which explain it well.

GL!


Haha yea, thanks mate :) I learned X58 can be quite fussy, I set it up and installed OS, left it running for a few hours and seemed fine.
Got complaints next day that it BSOD twice :(

Went over and installed second 6GB of RAM, set all voltages manually and timings etc. OC'd the CPU to 3.8 so as not to stress it much and keep it stable now.
im honestly a little jelly of this machine now. I left it running prime all night, temps around high 50s and didn't BSOD and hasn't since so seems to be pretty happy right now.
I'm thinking this cpu will do up to 4.5GHz once I get my head around x58 as previous owner said it did 4.0 at stock volts :)

NB temps also seem to have improved significantly, now in high 30s to low 40s now so much cooler than before. I've got 6x140mm fans in the fractal case though, everything is running quite cool and quiet.

Edited by p0is0n, 04 May 2012 - 01:11 AM.

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