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#21 gamble

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Posted 26 September 2014 - 12:18 PM

I ended up ordering the MSI GTX 970 4GD5T OC.  Its not the MSI GAMING 4G but I hope it has the same vrm as the GAMING 4G.  Just a new toy to play with for a nice side-grade fun :)


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Posted 26 September 2014 - 12:28 PM

I ended up ordering the MSI GTX 970 4GD5T OC.  Its not the MSI GAMING 4G but I hope it has the same vrm as the GAMING 4G.  Just a new toy to play with for a nice side-grade fun :)

 

On the subject of GTX9xx rumours, MSI haven't released their top end Lightning cards, which leads many to believe that a Ti version is in the works.


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Posted 26 September 2014 - 12:44 PM

I'm thinking of pulling the trigger on a 980. Good time to buy or wait a bit?


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Posted 26 September 2014 - 01:14 PM

You could wait for AMDs response Plods, R9 390X rumor floating around, even a picture if its cooler housing (hints at hybrid cooling ah la 295X2).

 

If 390X shows up, it will likely be faster but hotter and draw more power.

 

If you want ultimate speed, maybe wait or go 295X2, otherwise 980 is a nice bit of kit if you're wanting GTX 780 (Ti) class performance or looking to OC.


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Posted 26 September 2014 - 03:06 PM

I read a few places that the 390x is the same die as the 290x just the 290x had some disabling.  If thats true then the efficiency is going to be bad.  I probably should have waited though for AMD response but more just to play with a new piece and maybe Ill do another side-grade with AMD in a few months if I dont lose money doing so I dont mind lol

 

I kinda dont get the gtx 980 since the gix 970 is so well priced, you could spend just another 100 bucks to get two 970s for sli...


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Posted 28 September 2014 - 12:43 PM

Well well. That kinda ups the ante...

 

It never occurred to me to go the 2x970 route but there are some benefits to it. These charts make me think it may be a good idea...

 

http://www.techpower...970_SLI/20.html

 

I am a simracer and the really big deal for me is that I can sustain 65-70fps on a triplescreen rig. This is because I record my races and need to sustain 60fps to ensure no jerkiness which cuts in when it drops below 60. I have to dial back the effects to ensure this doesnt happen.

 

So, whilst 100fps is overkill for most, for me it gives me plenty of headroom. Obviously the game needs to be SLI optimised, but when it is, say here, http://www.techpower...970_SLI/12.html it starts to make sense. Check out the 5760x1080 results. A 980 gets 67 frames, that's good but with the dxtory overhead that will get pretty close to 60 and trouble. Plus, they use a 4770, mine's a 3570K overclocked.

 

Downside - non optimised games are gonna be lower than the 980? The single 980 is cheaper, plus I could SLI later if I wanted to.

 

Also, I have a gold certified 850w PSU. Will that be enough juice for SLI?

 

Oh, the pain of a decision...


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Posted 30 September 2014 - 04:44 PM

I think you've already pulled the trigger on this Plods :p but yeah, 850W will easlity be fine. You could do 4-way GTX 980 SLI if you wanted and still be ok on power.


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Posted 04 October 2014 - 05:44 PM

Just plugged the GTX 970 in :)  looks like around 1500mhz on the core when benching.  Still trying to figure out a few things since adding power dont seem to help.  Havent seen it go over 68c yet and havent messed with the fan profile.  Seems like a nice card though.


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Posted 17 October 2014 - 11:05 PM

MSI OC version
 
Noise - I have the side panel open on my case right now since Im leak testing my cpu loop.  I have 6 case fans all at the lowest setting, well 5 until the side panel is back on.  My 290x had coil whine that I could hear with the case closed.  This card does not have any coil whine while gaming or benchmarking with the side panel open.  Ive tried the highest settings in 3dmark11, FireStrike, and Valley... BF4.  Fan noise is not heard unless it is over 65%, 70% is slightly higher noise than my case fans in an open side panel.  
 
Cooling - I have custom fan curve to match degree to fan ratio 1:1.  My card at stock will core clock to 1280mhz and the temp will reach up to 68c.  If I +100 OC, the temp will reach 71c at around 1390mhz.  Note, side panel open.  If I close the case up, I bet I might get better cooling since my side panel fan.
 
Clocks - Like I said, it clocks higher than it is referenced.  If I only move the Power% slider to 106% and leave everything the same (beside fan curve) in BF4 the card will boost to 1304mhz.  That is quite impressive.  I can bench at nearly 1500mhz but gaming is at 1400mhz with a tick or two up or down from there meaning it will fluctuate about 20mhz total, probably when I die and waiting to spawn.  Benching will have more fluctuation though because Im hitting the TDP or power limit and then it clocks down.
 
If I was able to set the tdp to say 120%, it would be insane as this is the only thing that seems to be limiting the cards potential(similar to the Titan).  Im hitting the tdp and the core or voltage will drop.  Bios update would help this but I did fry a card in the past messing with bios flashing so Im not sure if I will do that this time.  I havent messed with the new features yet but its just seems so dam smooth when gaming.  Im interested in messing with DSR option to see what its about.
 
All in all, I love this card.  It runs what 13c hotter than my water cooled 290x, no coil whine, and sips power compared.  Now my cpu runs much cooler since I have taken the 290x off the loop and the 970 runs cool enough that I dont need to put it under water.  CPU is hitting 66c on the hottest core after hours of gaming.  I really didnt need to buy this, more just something to mess with and after selling the 290x it was cost effective and is fun to play with.

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Posted 18 October 2014 - 09:08 AM

Epic! That thing is insane! Really would like to get one of those now :-)

 

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Posted 22 October 2014 - 10:03 PM

Check out this tiny ITX GTX 970:  http://www.tomshardw...0-oc,27915.html

 

Man, this would be great for lan parties or really could condense your pc down small enough to just have a mini all the time.  


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Posted 24 October 2014 - 04:39 AM

Just got m: MSI GTX 980 4G installed. Will run a 3DMark and post it up shortly :)

 

Ok here it is. Just stock with 3570K at 4Ghz:

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/3053479


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Posted 24 October 2014 - 10:05 AM

Dam nice card Smakme, that is about the score Im getting with my cpu/gpu fully OC'ed.  Looks like theres a new driver that Ill try out now, and try to post in the bench thread soon :)


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Posted 04 November 2014 - 05:42 AM

Well I killed my card, dunno what happened but couldnt get any display.  They ran out of the MSI OC version so they gave me the Asus Strix version for same price.  

 

This one seems much more stable on the core with near flat line on core no matter the settings.  RAM only going up to +250 or about 7500, core around 1540mhz when benchmarking, I was gaming at 1480mhz on bf4.  It boosts to 1342mhz before touching anything.  The TDP is also set to 120% compared to 106%, this has allowed much more headroom for overclocking the core as its not hitting the limit now so easy causing core mhz drops.  It did reach 121% at one point still.  Backplate was included on this version too, looks sick.

 

Another thing kinda cool is that the fan doesnt spin till it hits 47c and with gaming @ 40% fan it stays under 67c. The Asus fan is audible at 40% where the MSI was not until around 60%.  The heatsink is huge on this compared but I didnt have the MSI Gaming just the OC version so there might be some difference there.  Looks like Asus has a good card though too.


Edited by gamble, 04 November 2014 - 05:47 AM.

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Posted 04 November 2014 - 07:33 AM

Well I killed my card, dunno what happened but couldnt get any display.  They ran out of the MSI OC version so they gave me the Asus Strix version for same price.  

 

This one seems much more stable on the core with near flat line on core no matter the settings.  RAM only going up to +250 or about 7500, core around 1540mhz when benchmarking, I was gaming at 1480mhz on bf4.  It boosts to 1342mhz before touching anything.  The TDP is also set to 120% compared to 106%, this has allowed much more headroom for overclocking the core as its not hitting the limit now so easy causing core mhz drops.  It did reach 121% at one point still.  Backplate was included on this version too, looks sick.

 

Another thing kinda cool is that the fan doesnt spin till it hits 47c and with gaming @ 40% fan it stays under 67c. The Asus fan is audible at 40% where the MSI was not until around 60%.  The heatsink is huge on this compared but I didnt have the MSI Gaming just the OC version so there might be some difference there.  Looks like Asus has a good card though too.

Ah that's a shame.

 

The STRIX is supposed to be a nice card. I've read only positive reviews about it. It was on my short list.



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Posted 04 November 2014 - 09:19 AM

Yea I like it more :-) 

 

What you end up overclocking your gtx 980 up to? 


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Posted 04 November 2014 - 06:15 PM

Yea I like it more :-) 

 

What you end up overclocking your gtx 980 up to? 

I don't overclock it actually. It's more than powerful enough for all my games so far. No need really. The only thing overclocked is my 3570K which is sitting at a pleasant 4Ghz :P

 

I did do a quick little test with the GTX 980 and Firestrike. I put the result in the benchmark thread. It's the last post. I think it was a little over 12,200 points.


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Posted 22 January 2015 - 07:30 AM

NDA should lift tomorrow for GTX 960... several rumor spec are already floating around, some show 3 models with different amounts of core amounts and clocks.  Possibly Ti versions and such.  Should be interesting to see how it stacks up against 280 and 770....


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Posted 22 January 2015 - 03:10 PM

Very much looking forward to this, as I'd very much like to retire the GTX 460 in my ITX rig, and replace it with something that not only is quicker, but also uses less power. Other option is try and snag a GTX 660 or equivalent dirt cheap when people upgrade :-P


Edited by nobody813, 27 January 2015 - 09:58 PM.

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Posted 27 January 2015 - 10:08 PM

Over the last week or so there's been some controversy surrounding whether or not the GTX 970 is indeed a 4GB card or not. Thankfully Nvidia has partially explained why this is occurring, and AnandTech posted quite a detailed article on it. For those interested, here it is: GeForce GTX 970: Correcting The Specs & Exploring Memory Allocation

 

Despite all of this, I still think the card is pretty damn good for the money. Just wish Nvidia had double checked their press releases and the information sent to reviewers...


Well I killed my card, dunno what happened but couldnt get any display.  They ran out of the MSI OC version so they gave me the Asus Strix version for same price.  

 

This one seems much more stable on the core with near flat line on core no matter the settings.  RAM only going up to +250 or about 7500, core around 1540mhz when benchmarking, I was gaming at 1480mhz on bf4.  It boosts to 1342mhz before touching anything.  The TDP is also set to 120% compared to 106%, this has allowed much more headroom for overclocking the core as its not hitting the limit now so easy causing core mhz drops.  It did reach 121% at one point still.  Backplate was included on this version too, looks sick.

 

Another thing kinda cool is that the fan doesnt spin till it hits 47c and with gaming @ 40% fan it stays under 67c. The Asus fan is audible at 40% where the MSI was not until around 60%.  The heatsink is huge on this compared but I didnt have the MSI Gaming just the OC version so there might be some difference there.  Looks like Asus has a good card though too.

Forgot to ask this before, but does that have any coil whine? If I buy a new card, I'd very much like for it not to have that :-P


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