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#41 sora3

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Posted 26 June 2015 - 12:50 PM

Remember Dasa, that they don't need to pay tax until they get to the checkout. So adding a 10% tax would be borderline on equal with us here realistically. 

 

Overall, it's a bit of a mixed bag for the Fury thus far. However, given that AMD did say that the Fury was designed to be played at 4k, it seems like a win there. Once they sort out drivers, it can only get better. Despite what the masses say, I have to say that most of the optimisations AMD has done really worked well. As fabman noted, the 7970 received a lot of optimisations to still be decent today. Heck, the R9 290 I have is still going to get a lot of optimisations thanks to the rebrand into the R9 390. So I think the Fury is only running on bare before AMD really crank up the optimisations.


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Posted 29 June 2015 - 01:48 PM

So Fury is a little bit of a disappointment, but it's a good start. Maxwell was a huge leap in perf/watt, Fiji/Fury is almost as good a step up too. In fact the only AMD card to be in amongst the GeForces on perf/watt along with the 270X

http://www.techpower..._Fury_X/32.html

 

The Fury Nano should be even better on perf/watt, am keeping a keen eye out for that one. Also the Fury X2 should once again claim the single card performance crown unless Nvidia decides to counter with its own dualy.

 

To be fair though, the Fury is their first GPU with the new architecture, Maxwell has had a few generations to mature the drivers on now, so hopefully AMD can close the gap driver side.

 

That being said, bring on 14nm. I'm over all this 28nm stuff, time to move on. 28nm down to 14nm, this could be the biggest jump in transistor counts in history for descrete GPUs. Imagine a Fury with like 12,000 shaders....


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Posted 29 June 2015 - 02:31 PM

Remember Dasa, that they don't need to pay tax until they get to the checkout. So adding a 10% tax would be borderline on equal with us here realistically.

how does that make up for the 50% price increase over us rrp making the newer cards much more expensive than what they are supposed to be replacing when in some cases they are slower

mind you its not as bad as the samsung micro sd cards im currently looking at apparently $22.99us=$99.95au for MicroSDXC 64GB EVO Memory Card with Adapter


Edited by Dasa, 30 June 2015 - 09:45 AM.

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Posted 30 June 2015 - 01:14 PM

 

Remember Dasa, that they don't need to pay tax until they get to the checkout. So adding a 10% tax would be borderline on equal with us here realistically.

how does that make up for the 50% price increase over us rrp making the newer cards much more expensive than what they are supposed to be replacing when in some cases they are slower

mind you its not as bad as the samsung micro sd cards im currently looking at apparently $22.99us=$99.95au for MicroSDXC 64GB EVO Memory Card with Adapter

 

 

I think you're missing the point here Dasa. There is a bloody reason why we're more expensive and I'll break it down here.

 

Let's assume a Fury X video card which retails 600 USD given the current prices.

 

1) AMD Australia sets the price in accordance to the exchange rate which is probably 0.75 USD to 1 AUD. That jumps the price to about 800AUD already.

2) The supplier then gets a shipment in. Usually, these things are Air Freighted down to Australia, not cargo shipped as you would think. So that adds an additional 100 AUD due to inventory storage and transportation costs to the airline.

3) After this, the stores need to have a profit so they mark it up since this is a new product. That adds another 100 AUD which surprise, surprise is the RRP for the Fury. 

 

Now, all of the above are estimates and I've seen how economics of the above work. If you want more details, it'll better to PM for this.

 

Oh, BTW about the flash, that's a totally different thing all together.


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Posted 30 June 2015 - 02:16 PM

my point is the older models (r9 270-290) are not so significantly marked up in au vs us (only when first released) while the replacements are (ok maybe not significantly)

the us rrp includes importing and store profits for them sure they get a much larger quantity which helps but the price of older cards show that its possible for prices to come down to a level that doesnt require extra profit margin for the au stores

i expect the price of amd cards to drop in au if not the new cards are a step backwards in value

 

the fury x is to expensive at the moment in the us and au im afraid its just a case of amd failing vs nvidia 980ti

maybe things will improve it will be interesting to see air cooled fury reviews as gtx980 is a much easier target


Edited by Dasa, 30 June 2015 - 03:06 PM.

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Posted 02 July 2015 - 05:42 AM

Looks like some people are having good results with OC on the HBM... 100mhz = 20% OC and gave a good boost in performance. I ordered one but then canceled since I really didnt need it but changed order to monitor instead :)

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Posted 04 July 2015 - 05:09 PM

The prices we see in the US are pre-tax aren't they, so if we add their tax to it first and then convert to AUD, will that not show a more accurate price? $650 + 7% = $695.50 converted to AUS dollar is $925.20. AMD have put the Fiji Fury at a recommended price of $999, so an extra $73.50, or less than 8% extra. Shouldn't be anything extra, but not as harsh as some software and probably compensates for the lower sales per region for shipping.






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