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#301 SceptreCore

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Posted 11 September 2017 - 03:35 PM

 

AMD Zen 2 and Zen 3 processor 7nm preparation has been tough


Getting the first zen right hasn't been exactly a cruise either

 

new architecture on a new process... less than ideal


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Posted 14 September 2017 - 05:02 PM

What's the deal with the AM4 APUs?

 

Are these recent released ones based on the older architecture or are they genuine Ryzen derivatives with graphics cores?

e.g. X4-940, X4-950, X4-970, A6-9550.



#303 Jeruselem

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 06:47 PM

No idea but I think the focus on zen cpu and vega gpu meant the zen apu wasn't a priority.

Edited by Jeruselem, 14 September 2017 - 06:49 PM.

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#304 Mordenakhnen

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 06:51 PM

What's the deal with the AM4 APUs?

 

Are these recent released ones based on the older architecture or are they genuine Ryzen derivatives with graphics cores?

e.g. X4-940, X4-950, X4-970, A6-9550.

They're Excavator based chips.

 

 

A good look at them by Steve at Hardware Unboxed.


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Posted 14 September 2017 - 07:27 PM

So don't buy it, get a ryzen 3 1200 with a gt 1030

Edited by Jeruselem, 14 September 2017 - 07:29 PM.

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#306 SceptreCore

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Posted 15 September 2017 - 10:31 PM

So don't buy it, get a ryzen 3 1200 with a gt 1030

Yes they're rubbish... and I agree with Steve in the above video... they taint the AM4 lineup and AMD shouldn't have released them.. but I guess it was their decision to run this crap out the door and make some more money. *shrugs*

 

On a happier note. Zen APU's seem to be pretty tasty:

 

Here we have the top end Bristol Ridge A12-9800 APU Geekbench result: https://browser.geek...processors/1945

 

And here we have the yet to be released Ryzen 5 2500U APU Geekbench result: https://browser.geek.../v4/cpu/3989399

 

What do these results mean?

 

Whilst having a -90% clock speed reduction to the A12, it still gets a 36.5% better single rating, and a 48.8% better multicore rating. That. Is. Staggering!!! 


Edited by SceptreCore, 15 September 2017 - 10:32 PM.

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Posted 15 September 2017 - 10:59 PM

Shouldn't complain too much I guess.

 

Intel still insists on sticking with Pentium and Celeron using the mainstream socket format when the low end market could be catered for by the i3.



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Posted 15 September 2017 - 11:20 PM

Shouldn't complain too much I guess.

 

Intel still insists on sticking with Pentium and Celeron using the mainstream socket format when the low end market could be catered for by the i3.

 

That's because Intel want to squeeze every last dollar out of the market by dividing it up. A lot of their own line up makes redundant their own line up. Coffee Lake is about to drop... which is basically Kaby Lake and that has come quicker than you can say "Already made!"

 

Link to Zen APU benchmark summary


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Posted 16 September 2017 - 12:59 PM

AMD Ryzen beats Intel Core i7 as a heater

 

Surprisingly... this is actually complimentary. But Intel's Core i9 chips would make far better heaters lol.


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