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#401 Jeruselem

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Posted 04 April 2018 - 02:09 PM

So you need a new mobo as well now?


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Posted 04 April 2018 - 05:10 PM

So you need a new mobo as well now?

To get the best out of it... it seems so. But still backwards compatible


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Posted 11 April 2018 - 01:44 AM

AMD is already working on advanced Zen 5 processors

 


Edited by SceptreCore, 11 April 2018 - 01:46 AM.

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Posted 14 April 2018 - 06:36 AM

Ryzen 2 Pre-Test: X370 & X470 Memory Scaling on R7 2700X, 1700X

 

20% performance difference in age of singularity between two 3200 ram kits on x470 but only 10% slower on x370 so at least half is due to early bios

it seems sub timings make a fair difference to ryzen


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Posted 14 April 2018 - 11:46 AM

Looking good so far.. I still want to get one not sure though if I will I dont want to get a new MB.... Might wait for next launch and get a new MB too, it sounds like the MBs are getting better all around from that video.  Very interesting on the sticks of ram and what they found.  I hope they tested a bunch ram and MBs and show that against each other. 

 

So freaking funny at the end about going thru back channels, sounded like he was having fun with that :)  


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Posted 14 April 2018 - 08:05 PM

X470 chipset is gonna have a better power setup for the higher clocks as well. There's a shot of an MSI mobo out there with 2 8 pin CPU power plugs.


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Posted 17 April 2018 - 07:31 PM

AMD brings their 6C/12T Ryzen from 25% behind Intel's to just 10%

 

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Not a bad effort from team green.


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Posted 19 April 2018 - 02:25 AM

AMD= Team Red?  Nvidia= Green   Intel= Blue    :)  

 

Keep reading on how 1.5v was used to overclock the 2700x... Ive been running at ~1.4v for 4ghz and didnt want to go much over that.  I thought the recommendation was 1.45v for max with custom loop...  I might bump it up some more... 


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Posted 19 April 2018 - 07:53 AM

ram speeds somebody managed with b die on 2700x

2x8GB 3733Mhz
4x8Gb 3333Mhz
2x16GB 3000Mhz
4x16GB 2666Mhz


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Posted 19 April 2018 - 07:39 PM

AMD= Team Red?  Nvidia= Green   Intel= Blue    :)  

 

Keep reading on how 1.5v was used to overclock the 2700x... Ive been running at ~1.4v for 4ghz and didnt want to go much over that.  I thought the recommendation was 1.45v for max with custom loop...  I might bump it up some more... 

I'm thinking of the good old days when AMD logos and colours were Green!


Also... official reviews should be out soon guys. Maybe even tonight?


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Posted 20 April 2018 - 12:15 AM

Anandtech Review. Reading now.

https://www.anandtec...en-5-2600x-2600

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Posted 20 April 2018 - 01:41 AM

https://www.youtube....h?v=XOOohlyJem0


Edited by SceptreCore, 20 April 2018 - 03:04 PM.

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Posted 20 April 2018 - 06:18 AM

Almost seems like if you cannot OC to 4.3 on all cores, then it is not worth it since XRF2 seems to be doing a stellar job and boosts to 4.3.  I was reading the techpowerup, and was kinda confused at first.  He was able to get 1.4v to 4.2ghz but running stock yielded better results.  All in all looks like a good release, just not enough for me to upgrade.  

 

I also read that AMD might have held back the 2800x waiting for Intel to respond, possibly aggressive binned parts. 


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Posted 20 April 2018 - 09:06 AM

https://www.gamersne...nchmarks-memory

https://youtu.be/1A2yatfyLoo?t=190


Edited by Dasa, 20 April 2018 - 09:26 AM.

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Posted 20 April 2018 - 03:06 PM

Almost seems like if you cannot OC to 4.3 on all cores, then it is not worth it since XRF2 seems to be doing a stellar job and boosts to 4.3.  I was reading the techpowerup, and was kinda confused at first.  He was able to get 1.4v to 4.2ghz but running stock yielded better results.  All in all looks like a good release, just not enough for me to upgrade.  

 

I also read that AMD might have held back the 2800x waiting for Intel to respond, possibly aggressive binned parts. 

I think they saw what the tech press was saying. 1800X didn't make sense


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Posted 20 April 2018 - 11:12 PM

by tweaking there ram they were able to get latency down to 60ns which has given the 2700x a nice boost

 

https://www.computer...charfen_timings

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Edited by Dasa, 20 April 2018 - 11:30 PM.

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Posted 21 April 2018 - 01:56 PM

Anandtech Review. Reading now.

https://www.anandtec...en-5-2600x-2600

There is no rime or reason to game performance in Anandtech cpu reviews they seem like complete fudge

for example notice how they left out ryzen 1 from rocket league?

1800x 122.63fps

2600 317.22fps

 

also i tried running my 6700k at the same settings as them in civ6 and ended up with double the fps they get

 

there intel results are all over the place with 8400 outperforming 8700k

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Edited by Dasa, 21 April 2018 - 05:54 PM.

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Posted 21 April 2018 - 03:20 PM

Yeah that's the problem I'm trying to understand. Anandtech is reputable (according to most) and Dr Ian Cutress is also. So... for him to get it so wrong, and so far away from what the rest of the tech press has gotten is really confounding.

 

As an aside to all of that, I'm happy with the Zen+ results. They got their 10% performance boost which is more than what Intel have done over the recent years.

 

EDIT: Perhaps because they're only using a GTX1080 and not the Ti... there's a GPU bottleneck and Ryzen is pulling ahead?


Edited by SceptreCore, 22 April 2018 - 04:38 PM.

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Posted 27 April 2018 - 03:42 PM

CPU Design Guru Jim Keller Joins Intel; Completes CPU Grand Tour

 

The Zen master has been poached by Intel. Eeeek.


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Posted 29 April 2018 - 03:34 PM

AMD 7nm Zen 2 CPUs Sampling This Year For 2019 Volume Launch
 

Hot off the heels of launching a new generation of Ryzen processors built on a refined 12-nanometer FinFET manufacturing process (Zen+), AMD is now looking ahead to next year, which is when it will roll out Zen 2. It won't be a paper launch, either—during a recent earnings call with investors, AMD CEO Dr. Lisa Su confirmed that AMD is already sampling its 7nm Zen 2 processors and is gearing up for a volume launch in 2019.

"We have a 7nm GPU based on Vega that we'll sample later this year. We have a 7nm server CPU that we'll sample later this year. And then, obviously, we have a number of products that are planned for 2019 as well. So it's a very, very busy product season for us. But we're pleased with the sort of the execution on the product roadmap," Dr. Su said.

This is a different AMD than we're used to seeing. The company is firing on all cylinders and there is genuine excitement over its product launches. As we have said in the past, Zen is a solid foundation for AMD to build upon, and that is exactly what the company is doing.

AMD is hitting multiple market segments, as well. The 7nm Vega GPU that Dr. Su referred to is being used in its Radeon Instinct accelerator for artificial intelligence and machine learning workloads. AMD teased a photo of the card on Twitter, saying it's currently running in the company's labs and is "on track to provide samples to customers later this year."

As for AMD's CPUs, the company anticipates that more customers will buy into its Zen ecosystem as they become more familiar with the brand and accompanying platforms.

"So all of the sales this year will be around the current generation of Ryzen, and so, that gets us to the mid-single-digit share. 7nm Zen 2 based product we'll sample later this year to customers and that will be in production in 2019, and we do believe that the adoption rate of the second-generation could potentially be higher than the adoption rate of the first-generation, mostly because customers will be more familiar with our systems and our products," Dr. Su added. 

Dr. Su also pointed to the server market, which AMD is targeting with its Epyc processor line. Adoption is picking up in that space, too—just last week, longtime Intel partner and supercomputing powerhouse Cray added Epyc processor options to one of its high performance computing (HPC) product lines.

Life is good for AMD at the moment, and that is reflected in its most recent earnings report in which the company said it pulled a profit of $81 million on $1.65 billion in revenue last quarter, versus a $19 million loss in the previous quarter and a $33 million loss in the same quarter a year prior. AMD is on solid footing, and as long as it continues to execute on time, it should see more positive quarters.

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Edited by SceptreCore, 29 April 2018 - 03:34 PM.

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