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#421 SceptreCore

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Posted 13 May 2018 - 06:59 PM

Hardware unboxed also looked into the ram frequency and timings to see some impressive increases in results

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 08:28 PM

https://segmentnext....5-nm-amd-zen-5/

 

While AMD Ryzen 2000 CPUs have rolled out into the market last month but, AMD confirmed before the release of 2nd Gen Ryzen products that it is working on Zen 5 and now it seems that the AMD Zen 5 will be based on 3 nm process instead on 5 nm as GlobalFoundries plans to skip the latter one altogether.

 

Speaking with EETimes, CEO of GlobalFoundries Tom Caulfield talked about the future of the company and also touched the subject of leaning towards the 3 nm process instead of 5 nm for AMD Zen 5 architecture.

 

According to Caulfield, he doesn’t think that 5 nm is going to be enough for the company to invest in it and 3 nm process will be required to get “full performance”. However, he didn’t confirm that the company will indeed skip the 5 nm in favor of 3 nm process.


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Posted 29 May 2018 - 08:25 PM

Epyc fail? We can defeat AMD's virtual machine encryption, say boffins

 

German researchers reckon they have devised a method to thwart the security mechanisms AMD's Epyc server chips use to automatically encrypt virtual machines in memory.

So much so, they said they can exfiltrate plaintext data from an encrypted guest via a hijacked hypervisor and simple HTTP requests to a web server running in a second guest on the same machine.

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Posted 30 May 2018 - 10:32 PM

https://www.forbes.c...k/#2235a97461e2

 

Want a gaming laptop with AMD Ryzen and AMD Vega? Acer Helios 500 with Ryzen 2700 and Vega 56!

There's also an Intel/nVidia version of it.

 

I already have an Acer Helios 300 so I won't be getting one ...


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Posted 01 June 2018 - 12:20 PM

https://www.techspot...otherboard.html

The crew over at The Tech Report recently stumbled across an updated CPU support list for ASRocks AB350M Pro4 motherboard. On it are four new AMD CPUs including the Ryzen 3 2300X with a base clock of 3.5GHz, 2MB of cache and a 65W TDP and the Ryzen 5 2500X with 2MB of cache, a 65W TDP and a base clock of 3.6GHz.

TTR surmises these will likely be quad-core parts based on their L2 cache size.

There are also two energy-efficient models listed, the Ryzen 5 2600E with a 45W TDP, 3MB of cache and a base clock of 3.1GHz as well as a Ryzen 7 2700E at 2.8GHz with 4MB of cache and a 2.8GHz base clock. Again, based on the L2 cache, these will likely be six-core and eight-core components, respectively.

Missing from the equation is the peak clock speeds of these parts. Pricing and availability is also unknown although with Computex just around the bend, the stage is set for AMD to share more information.

They seem like good options. They will perform better than the APU parts without making them redundant. Solid lineup.

The E series though, I wish they would make them bga for laptops/integrated.

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Posted 06 June 2018 - 09:47 PM

AMD promises 32-core Threadripper processor for later this year

 

Mere hours after Intel raised eyebrows with the promise of a 5GHz 28-core processor, AMD has done four cores better with its own tease of a 32-core chip. The second generation of AMD’s Threadripper processors will have a truly extreme variant that straps four 8-core Ryzen dies together to form a unified, humongous 32-core part. This “heavy metal” Threadripper can handle 64 processing threads at a time, doubling the core count and capabilities of the original Threadripper, though it can still fit in the same motherboard socket as the first generation.

 

The only other details that AMD disclosed here at Computex were that the second-gen Threadripper will be built using a 12nm process and will be available to buy in the third quarter of this year.

 

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Posted 07 June 2018 - 10:48 AM

Wonder how it compares to it's predecessor?


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Posted 07 June 2018 - 05:59 PM

Wonder how it compares to it's predecessor?

To me it feels like the refresh wasn't gonna be enough bang to cause excitement.

 

I wonder if 32 cores will win it a Mac Pro design from Apple?


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Posted 07 June 2018 - 07:06 PM

 

Wonder how it compares to it's predecessor?

To me it feels like the refresh wasn't gonna be enough bang to cause excitement.

 

I wonder if 32 cores will win it a Mac Pro design from Apple?

 

 

`Will people fork out 10K for a Mac Pro with 32 core CPU and a Vega GPU?


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Posted 10 June 2018 - 11:55 PM

`Will people fork out 10K for a Mac Pro with 32 core CPU and a Vega GPU?

You're familiar with Apple customers, yes?


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Posted 11 June 2018 - 09:42 AM

 

`Will people fork out 10K for a Mac Pro with 32 core CPU and a Vega GPU?

You're familiar with Apple customers, yes?

 

They'll be idiots who buy those but some won't because ... money


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Posted 11 June 2018 - 10:44 PM

They'll be idiots who buy those but some won't because ... money

 

Yeah that's what I said... apple customers

 

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Posted 22 June 2018 - 03:03 PM

Ordered 2600x off ebay..  Should be able to sell my current cpu for a bit more than what I paid for the 2600x.  Just got it to play with mainly... Might see slight gains in gaming... really just wanted to try something new till next year release and see how it overclocks... Im bad about side grading but if I can get into it without losing much Im game :)


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Posted 22 June 2018 - 08:08 PM

Ordered 2600x off ebay..  Should be able to sell my current cpu for a bit more than what I paid for the 2600x.  Just got it to play with mainly... Might see slight gains in gaming... really just wanted to try something new till next year release and see how it overclocks... Im bad about side grading but if I can get into it without losing much Im game :)

They reckon that the turbo and xfr are so good that overclocking is a little worse than an all core overclock.

 

If your RAM is samsung B die though... overclock it and tweak the timings to Hardware Unboxed's guide and you should get very noticeable performance gains in games.


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Posted 23 June 2018 - 08:50 PM

AMD Zen 2 Based 7nm Rome Server Processors Were Designed To Compete Favorably With Intel Ice Lake-SP Xeon CPUs, Aiming For Multi-Digit Server Market Share Gains

 

AMD has made a grand entrance back in the server market and is going in all guns blazing against Intel’s Xeon processors with their disruptive EPYC platform. While developing their next-gen CPUs for the server market, AMD made assumptions of where Intel’s chips will land in terms of efficiency and performance but Intel seems to be just giving away their market share due to a delayed 10nm process which will put AMD in a huge lead come next generation.

 

AMD has on multiple occasions, confirmed that their 7nm EPYC ‘Rome’ server family is on track. The most recent one was at the one year anniversary of EPYC processors based on the 14nmFF ‘Naples’ architecture. During the webinar, AMD’s Senior Vice President and General Manager of Datacenter and Embedded Solutions, Forrest Norrod, reaffirmed that 7nm EPYC Rome CPUs will be sampling in 2H 2018 and launching in 2019.

 

Forrest Norrod also confirmed future iterations of Zen architecture beyond 2020 which include Zen 4 and Zen 5 while will succeed the 7nm+ EPYC ‘Milan’ processors. However, when designing the EPYC server roadmap, AMD had a few goals in mind.

 

For AMD’s first 7nm server family specifically, AMD made assumptions around Intel’s roadmap and what they would do if they were Intel. There’s no mystery about Intel’s next-generation Xeon CPUs as we know that the Skylake-SP (14nm+) chips will be replaced by the upcoming Cascade Lake-SP (14nm++) family. We have quite a few details regarding the Cascade Lake-SP family which you can check out here but Forrest Norrod has some interesting details regarding Rome.

 

According to him, the AMD 7nm EPYC Rome processors were not designed to compete against the Cascade Lake-SP Xeon family, they were actually designed to compete favorably against Intel’s Ice Lake-SP Xeon processors. You heard it, right folks, AMD’s 2019 CPU family is designed to tackle the Intel 10nm Ice Lake Xeons favorably and things are looking really good for AMD as their Rome CPU family will only be competing against Intel’s 14nm++ server refreshed family, aka Cascade Lake-SP. Intel’s Ice Lake-SP processors based on 10nm process aren’t expected to arrive in the server Xeon space till 2020.

 

“Rome was designed to compete favorably with “Ice Lake” Xeons, but it is not going to be competing against that chip. We are incredibly excited, and it is all coming together at one point.” – Forrest Norrod. via TheNextPlatform

 

There’s no doubt that AMD made a grand comeback in the server space with their highly disruptive EPYC platform. Returning right on time when Intel was at their most fragile position with little to no progress being made towards the 10nm process development, stagnant IPC evolution and very less impressive feature updates on the server side. Sure Purley platform itself was supposed to deliver a good amount of features to consumers but EPYC made that look like child’s play comparison. Just to tell you how much of an impact EPYC made in the server market, Intel’s CEO, said in an interview recently that they are expecting to lose server CPU market share to AMD’s EPYC processors.

 

"Mr. Krzanich was very matter-of-fact in saying that Intel would lose server share to AMD in the second half of the year. This wasn’t new news, but we thought it was interesting that Mr. Krzanich did not draw a firm line in the sand as it relates to AMD’s potential gains in servers; he only indicated that it was Intel’s job to not let AMD capture 15-20% market share.” – Romit Shah, Nomura Instinet

 

 

It looks like AMD is in all-guns-blazing mode, introducing a competitive and powerful lineup gen after gen. AMD is also expecting to witness multi-digit server market share gains in the coming years, up from literally 0% market share before EPYC launched. Unless or until Intel gets things straight with their CPU and core development projects and correct their fab issues, AMD is just going to keep coming back at them with a more powerful response

 

Intel is expected to use a similar MCM approach to AMD’s server lineup with a Cascade Lake-AP part but AMD has the upper hand in both MCM technologies deployed on CPUs to date and they also have the lead in the number of cores deployed. Even if Intel comes out with an MCM die with more cores compared to the current maximum of 28 which will also remain true for the Xeon SP (Cascade Lake) parts, there’s no stopping AMD from deploying a 64 core, 128 thread juggernaut chip on the Rome platform while using current technologies.

 

"Rome was designed to compete favorably with “Ice Lake” Xeons, but it is not going to be competing against that chip. We are incredibly excited, and it is all coming together at one point. We have reintroduced ourselves to the market, gotten the initial traction and wins, we got the initial customer support, and we validated that AMD is a safe choice with an effective processor. With the Rome processor and process, we are going to be in an incredible position going forward.”

 

 

“Our plan for the Naples-Rome-Milan roadmap was based on assumptions around Intel’s roadmap and our estimation of what would we do if we were Intel,” Norrod continues.

 

“We thought deeply about what they are like, what they are not like, what their culture is and what their likely reactions are, and we planned against a very aggressive Intel roadmap, and I really Rome and Milan and what is after them against what we thought Intel could do. And then, we come to find out that they can’t do what we thought they might be able to. And so, we have an incredible opportunity."

 

 

It's good to see AMD taking advantage of a bad situation over at Intel. Hopefully it's the momentum they need to push themselves into a stronger position which will be better for all consumers.


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Posted 23 June 2018 - 09:11 PM

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Posted 29 June 2018 - 09:51 AM

https://www.techpowe...rop-like-a-rock

 

First gen-thread ripper prices to drop! Get one if you want one now


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Posted 29 June 2018 - 10:14 AM

Switched out the 1700x for the 2600x to play with.  Well, the 2600x is just too good out of the box, there really no point in overclocking, just like what all the reviews say.  Sure a few people got up to 4.3+ but its rare.  I can't get all cores to 4.2ghz without lots of extra voltage but it boosts over 4.2ghz quite a bit even 4.3 sometimes.  Many times I see 2 cores over 4.2ghz at the same time. 

 

Cinebench 1700x @ 4ghz:

 

Single:  160

Multi:  1702

 

2600x @ stock:

 

Single:  168

Multi:  1268

 

Timespy 1700x @ 4ghz+?:

 

Best runs were just over 10k, most landed around 9.7k

 

2600x @ stock:

 

9250

 

Firestrike 1700x @ 4ghz:

 

Best just over 21k most in the 20.5k range

Stock around 18.5k

 

2600x stock:

 

20185

 

Temps have not crossed 67c with my loop. 

 

The few games Ive tried seem faster when gaming.  To me, if being honest, Im frustrated with the fact that I cant really overclock this chip and even the last chip 1700x was limiting, 4ghz was fine at around 1.4 but moving up to 4.1 was not worth it.  I still cant run 3200 on ram, with this chip, Ive messed with lots of timing, manual entering and such.  The 2600x just seems so good at the new XFR that cant really top it with OC.  It's just a bit boring, kinda wish I went Intel but really wanted to go back to AMD as they do have a heck of a product.  Ryzen is a great product but Im a tweaker I want to have some room to play and try stuff or even delid if need be.  Not that the Ryzen is bad at all though, I would recommend it for sure to most people but for me I want to play and have some fun doing that!  I look forward to next years refresh, and will buy it Im sure...  I was hoping/wanted to have the week of tweaking the crap out of it at least :)  My delid 3770k was so fun to play with.  I probably do not make sense to most, but my old barton would OC like crazy lol... 


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Posted 29 June 2018 - 11:38 AM

you tried feeding the ram 1.45v?

if you want to tinker maybe its time to get some b die :) although im not sure how well it will go on a biostar mb...

 

im back playing with my ram again it seems more stable at higher speeds with the latest bios


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Posted 29 June 2018 - 12:57 PM

Yea so wish I bought a better kit but back then prices were half what they are now. I wonder if like you said my mb could even go 3200...  ram tweaking might be the way to go I'll try some extra volts :) 


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