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#141 Rybags

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Posted 17 March 2017 - 04:09 PM

Illegal, unsupported, legal.  Doesn't matter.  The point is that there's expected behaviours and if a CPU crashes or is able to be elevated to a privelage level it shouldn't be at then it's a big security hole, and especially for enterprise markets puts a big ding in your reputation.



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Posted 17 March 2017 - 07:00 PM

Ryzen 3 and 5 are like the ryzen 7 with a ccx between sets of cores

Ryzen 3: 2:2
Ryzen 5: 3:3
Ryzen 7: 4:4

Hence only 4, 6 and 8 cores CPUs for ryzen

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Posted 20 March 2017 - 11:16 AM

Illegal, unsupported, legal.  Doesn't matter.  The point is that there's expected behaviours and if a CPU crashes or is able to be elevated to a privelage level it shouldn't be at then it's a big security hole, and especially for enterprise markets puts a big ding in your reputation.

That's true but not true at the same time. It is true that having a CPU doing something unexpected is not something your company wants to deal with. However, it is not true that ALL enterprise markets will be running the same configuration. Most if not all enterprise will be utilising custom-made software that is tailored to some degree to their work.

 

Anyway, I'll digress and get back to what's happened with the Ryzen. ATM, I've managed to boot the Hynix RAM sticks to 2400MHz but any further = board hang so it does seem like the AGESA isn't liking my RAM. BIOS updates is rather pathetic but given how Asus is prioritising the C6H, this does mean that the Prime does get some loving soon. Managed to O/C to 3.7GHz at 1.20v which is rather surprising and I probably can push further to 3.9GHz. Cooling might be a problem but it seems the stock cooler is still hanging in there. I did a burn test with XCOM2 which heats my system hard and the temps were hovering at 62C max. Not bad...


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Posted 20 March 2017 - 11:21 AM

I'm hearing Ryzen isn't compatible with a lot of RAM. Hope it's just buggy board BIOSes.


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Posted 20 March 2017 - 11:33 AM

I'm hearing Ryzen isn't compatible with a lot of RAM. Hope it's just buggy board BIOSes.

Most of the RAM can boot at standard JEDEC 2133MHz speed and timings. But it is the higher speed that is the problem since the InfinityFabric is dependent on RAM speed. Once the AGESA is settled, then we should start to see a lot more speed into these things.


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Posted 21 March 2017 - 08:20 AM

I guess if you have 2 weeks to write a uefi/bios this is to be expected.

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Posted 21 March 2017 - 08:30 AM

It's not like they're done from scratch.  The overall framework is much the same, just specifics like register locations that change.

But really, like any new architecture the edgy stuff is where the learning curve is.  Look back at most high profile overclocking motherboards, it took some of them multiple months and several Bios revisions before they got near their peak capability.



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Posted 21 March 2017 - 09:45 AM

Someone said the original launch was like 1 month further ahead ...


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Posted 04 April 2017 - 08:05 AM

 

Interesting jump in fps...


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#150 Jeruselem

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Posted 05 April 2017 - 09:20 AM

Meanwhile pretty deathly silence about Vega ...


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Posted 05 April 2017 - 10:53 AM

Pinch of salt: https://www.google.c...s-leak-nda/amp/


But I hope this is true

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Posted 05 April 2017 - 01:41 PM

Pinch of salt: https://www.google.c...s-leak-nda/amp/


But I hope this is true

Well, they say “As you leave the article, please watch the gap between the article and the comments” which may be referencing the slide they label epilogue where the last two words of the main text area are "April Fools."


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#153 Jeruselem

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Posted 05 April 2017 - 03:04 PM

Yes the nda of 1st of April was another giveaway.

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Posted 09 April 2017 - 12:00 PM

The rx500 series is not Vega, it's like Polaris v2 and not a 1080 killer.

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Posted 10 April 2017 - 07:52 PM

The rx500 series is not Vega, it's like Polaris v2 and not a 1080 killer.

 

I expected as much since Polaris should last a lot longer than Tonga/Tahiti/Hawaii. But Vega is the new architecture too since it rebuilt from GCN.


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#156 Rybags

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Posted 12 April 2017 - 12:17 AM

Ryzen 5 out today.  I just watched this review from LinusTechTips.

 



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Posted 12 April 2017 - 10:02 AM

PC Case gear Ryzen 5 prices

 

http://search.pccase...w=ryzen 5&asug=

 

1600x 359

1600 319

1500x 275

1400  245

 

I think the 1600 or 1500x are best value. The 1400 should be cheaper, it's hard to justify it given the 1500x is 30 more.


Edited by Jeruselem, 12 April 2017 - 10:13 AM.

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Posted 15 April 2017 - 12:43 PM

To be honest, the 1500X is not really worth it either. For $40 more, you're getting 2 extra cores and additional 4 threads. Plus, you're compromising more with the 1500X for the future since we assume more developers will be optimising for multiple cores.


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#159 Jeruselem

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Posted 18 April 2017 - 09:34 AM

To be honest, the 1500X is not really worth it either. For $40 more, you're getting 2 extra cores and additional 4 threads. Plus, you're compromising more with the 1500X for the future since we assume more developers will be optimising for multiple cores.

 

True, the 1600 is better value. Given Ryzen barely overclocks above 4.1 Ghz ... the 1600X might be a waste.


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Posted 05 May 2017 - 05:38 PM

It seems the vega gpu is based on the fury x so its not a true redesign like ryzen.

Edited by Jeruselem, 05 May 2017 - 05:38 PM.

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