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#1 Dasa

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Posted 05 August 2015 - 10:38 AM

Skylake reviews are starting to appear
 
here is a nice review using retail samples
http://www.xtremesys...viewed-by-DGLee
 
Looks like thief and hitman see big gains from the extra cache on the 5775c while dirt cares more about raw clock speed

Rest of the games look fairly gpu limited but despite that skylake still falls well behind in bioshock & sleeping dogs for some reason
Maybe a gpu driver optimization will help?
 
and here is some geek3 benchmarks
http://www.xtremesys...Skylake-benches


MSI Z170A GAMING M7 (Intel LGA-1151) review with performance and power use
https://www.techpowe...170A_GAMING_M7/

Edited by Dasa, 05 August 2015 - 07:06 PM.

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Posted 05 August 2015 - 09:44 PM

I'm a little underwhelmed, hopefully there's some better analysis done over time but there's no great reason for most people to upgrade to the new platform if they've bought high-end gear in the last few years.

 

That techpowerup review, I thought the MSI 170z board was neat, I liked the PCB layer window :)


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Posted 05 August 2015 - 10:12 PM

Haven't had a chance to compare this with the others linked, but Ars is usually an enjoyable read:

http://arstechnica.c...6700k-reviewed/


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Posted 05 August 2015 - 11:29 PM

nice to see its doing a lot better in games than early tests suggested

havent looked through many yet but this site has been one of my favorits for cpu reviews for some time now

http://translate.goo...l/art60136.html

 

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here they look into ram performance scaling

http://www.hardocp.c.../6#.VcIRxK1nH9I

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just looking at this one now it looks like a great review

http://www.hardware....3-pratique.html

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Edited by Dasa, 06 August 2015 - 01:15 PM.

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Posted 06 August 2015 - 09:26 AM

*Le Sigh*

 

As always when I plan to upgrade there's something coming that just that little bit better.

 

4790K or 6700K, Might see how much the setup will cost with the 6700K over the 4790K.



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Posted 10 August 2015 - 02:35 PM

shamelessly flogging this from anandtech forum where there has been some interesting discussion
http://forums.anandt...428363&page=132

Still nobody post here this review?
http://www.purepc.pl...zenie?page=0,33



Nice find. PurePC chose DDR4-2666 CL13 for their Skylake-S system.
Another round of Sandy Bridge vs Ivy Bridge vs Haswell vs Skylake results at equal clock (4.5GHz).

Here we go, Core i5 6600K vs Core i5 4690K operating at 4.5GHz, Skylake-S is:

15.9% faster @ Battlefield 4 SP
10% faster @ Crysis 3
21.3% faster @ Far Cry 4
16.5% faster @ Watch Dogs
16.5% faster @ Arma III
13.2% faster @ TES Skyrim
14.5% faster @ Starcraft 2
18.2% faster @ GTA V

Overall: Skylake-S 15,8% faster than Haswell per clock. Even better than PCLab results (below).


they tested using 1600 8-8-8 in the ddr3 systems
why are all the best reviews in another language?
unfortunately still no good reviews with overclocked 2011-3 results

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Posted 11 August 2015 - 09:27 AM

The eurogamer 6700K review is interesting but doesn't state what memory speeds were used, it's not very tech-focused more on the performance between the generations:

 

http://www.eurogamer...i7-6700k-review

 

An interesting table is this "four generations of Core i7, equalised at the same 4.4GHz clock-speed and put to work on our gaming benchmarking suite.", paired with an overclocked Titan X. There's a substantial difference, though no LGA2011 is included.


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Posted 11 August 2015 - 10:27 AM

yeah i love how they do there video review showing the gameplay locations alongside the graphs wish i new how to do that

but like you say they dont give much detail on the hwardware used and there has been some people question if there test rig has some problems as they are apparently getting fps drops or stutters with 4790k and not with skylake when others with similar 4790k systems dont


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Posted 11 August 2015 - 03:32 PM

 

When Japanese tech publication PC Watch got under the hood (lid) of a Core i7-6700K quad-core processor, what they found was an unexpectedly small silicon, that's shorter... than previous dies from Intel...

The substrate Intel is using on the i7-6700K was found to be slimmer than the one on the i7-4770K, at 0.8 mm thick, compared to 1.1 mm on the latter. The thicker IHS... makes up for the thinner substrate, so it shouldn't cause problems with using your older LGA1150 coolers... The die is closer to the center of the IHS than its predecessors were.

PC Watch swapped out the stock TIM with Prolimatech PK-3 and Cool Laboratory Liquid Pro, and found some impressive drops in temperatures at stock speed (4.00 GHz) and with a mild overclock (4.60 GHz).

https://www.techpowe...s-tiny-die.html

http://pc.watch.impr...806_715335.html

 

De-lidded temp drops were:

 

4GHz

Stock: 74

PK3: 70 (-4)

Liquid Pro: 58 (-16)

 

 

4.4GHz

Stock: 88

PK3: 84 (-4)

Liquid Pro: 68 (-20)

 

Amazing temperature improvement with the Liquid Pro, almost worth the effort of popping it open to replace. Presumably they replaced the heatspreader though it wasn't explicitly mentioned. The article explains their thoughts on the improvement:

"In the heat conduction, reduction of cross-sectional area leads to an increase in thermal resistance. Since small cross-sectional area to convey efficiently heat is required higher heat conductivity, which a difference in thermal conductivity of the TIM is significantly reflected in the CPU temperature than resulting Skylake in the conventional CPU I think."
https://translate.go...html&edit-text=

 


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Posted 12 August 2015 - 07:21 AM

What's the % gain in gaming from SB, IB, and Haswell?   Just keep reading different things.  I'm personally interested in what clock I have to run at to match performance of Skylake... Of course there will be somethings that it will just be better at but gaming is where I'm interested. 


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Posted 14 August 2015 - 09:20 PM

What's the % gain in gaming from SB, IB, and Haswell?   Just keep reading different things.  I'm personally interested in what clock I have to run at to match performance of Skylake... Of course there will be somethings that it will just be better at but gaming is where I'm interested. 

 

 

here they look into ram performance scaling

http://www.hardocp.c.../6#.VcIRxK1nH9I

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Posted 22 August 2015 - 01:59 AM

As I understand it, the CPU's themselves aren't significantly faster, but the options added to the 1151 motherboards are (not sure what they are though)


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Posted 22 August 2015 - 10:30 PM

Has been pretty interesting looking at generational comparisons. For a while I was tempted to upgrade from my 2500k + Z77 system to Skylake, but I'm still not 100% sure if that'd be a "worthwhile" upgrade for me. Best thing I could do now is just overclock my chip again


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Posted 26 August 2015 - 08:16 PM

I have sandy,ivy,haswell but dont have skylake.

I can do my own test if people would like me too

as a comparsion?


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Posted 30 September 2015 - 07:56 AM

ok,its been a long time since ive posted in these forums,im back lol im thinking of upgrading what ive been seeing these chips run quite warm when overclocked im still a overclocker

just dont bench no more but i have been thinking about it latley just thinking i have a corsair 110 aio sitting here you think it would keep it cool enough for some heavy bench work/overclocking?


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Posted 30 September 2015 - 08:00 AM

h110 cools fairly well at high fan speeds

 

temps improve a lot by popping the lid

http://hwbot.org/new..._18c_under_load


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