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#1 Dasa

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Posted 18 July 2016 - 12:59 PM

ebay 20% off stores

6700k $452 +$10 for signature required on post
Asus Maximus VIII Gene Z170 $304 free post
from newegg
G.Skill DDR4-3200c14 16GB 2x8GB $132
EVGA gtx 1070 $594 <evga international warranty non reference but all cards seem to do ~2050mhz regardless of vrm it has some nice looking plates that should work well with the universal gpu block
$778.51 with $52.51 post

~$1500

 

i know arma will still run like crap but it will be interesting if it can keep the fps closer to 60 more of the time rather than ~30 most the time in apex

 

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all parts were posted 19th except the mb..

ebay store said it had 10 in stock at time of purchase now lists 8 but i received this email few days back

New message from: pc.byte  
Hi,

Good day, hope this email finds you well.
We're sorry to inform you that we're out of stock for this item at the moment, and do not have goods to fulfill your order. My colleagues are in touch with supplier, and we will be in touch shortly with an update.

Thank you for your understanding.

Edited by Dasa, 21 July 2016 - 12:35 AM.

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#2 gamble

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Posted 21 July 2016 - 12:19 PM

Nice new toys coming your way!  Wish I had a universal gpu block.  I have the setup for it too and the cards Ive run with water had a custom specific block.... but might look into one sometime.  EVGA has amazing support, I fried a Titan once and they took it back and sent me a replacement.  

 

Now what do you do with your current system as its not that bad at all :) 


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Posted 21 July 2016 - 12:28 PM

posted a price check on ocau for old parts no replies but looking at the for sale section i got a rough idea

will probably keep the 3770k\gene\7970 for sisters photoshop pc to replace her q9450 and sell the 290\2600k\p67\ram to nuke for ~$400

 

ok so i will be keeping at least one of these for a family member and probably selling the other maybe to a friend

2600k 4.3ghz 1.28v 24\7 - 4.9ghz 1.4v prime stable with pll over v needed to post past 4.4ghz - 5.1ghz 1.52v kinda benchmark stable

3770k delided recently does 4.5ghz 1.38v ~60c some chips were knocked of the back in the process disabling its igp and it has some chips around the edges of the pcb from the vise
its never been happy with ram over 1.55v for some reason some say this may be due to bent mb pins on the z77 but i cant see any
4.7ghz ran 3dmark at 1.425v very unstable
4.8ghz wouldnt boot at 1.5v

ga p67 ud3 b3
asus z77 gene

geil 2x2g 1600 8-8-8 1.35v @ 2133 7-10-8-31-t1 tRFC 86 1.56v <only works in the p67 wont post in z77
samsung oem 2x4g kit 1600c11 @ 2133 9-10-10-1T tRFC 96 1.54v double sided dims

asus 7970 3g dc2t stock 1000mhz but runs 1100mhz at its default v which is lower than most reference 7970 making it very efficient however it doesnt scale with with increased v or water

xfx r9 290 dd 4g does 1200mhz stable on water but it will be on air and its stock hsf has a crap vrm hs than runs over 100c

all parts still work fine other than what was mentioned with no sine of degradation they still oc as good as they did when new


thanks for your time

edit i will probably leave the 3770k in the z77 gene as it has liquid metal tim under the ihs that would be better not disturbed

 


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Posted 21 July 2016 - 12:33 PM

Neat (tho' shitty about the stock level BS).

I wanted to get some stuff in June while in the US but almost all the things I wanted were cheaper in Australia : \
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Posted 21 July 2016 - 12:59 PM

just found this guide to setting ram timings which should come in handy

http://forum.hwbot.o...ad.php?t=148427

unfortunately they seem to be mostly for d-die and e-die samsung ic where as my kit should be b-die so i may still need to experiment a bit

 

i do love that i have been able to keep using this mcw60 universal block since the x1900xtx days

 

yeah i do hope i get another email soon to say there suppler has stock and that there not just pissing around as the 20% discount combined with free post to my rural location removes there profit margin

 

edit another link i will be going through later for asus mb related info on overclocking

http://forum.hwbot.o...ad.php?t=142991

 

 

edit: just thinking i may leave the gpu on air for a while see if i can run some tests comparing game performance with 3770k vs 6700k

trouble is i dont have a good spare hsf for the 3770k may be able to slap the old water loop back on it though

 

 

edit: New message from: pc.byte

Hi ,
I have just got the update from our supplier and the eta is mid of next week arrive at our warehouse . We will arrange to send the item out once it is ready .
 
thats not to bad
cpu\gpu\ram will probably be here next week and the mb should arrive a week after that

Edited by Dasa, 21 July 2016 - 04:29 PM.

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Posted 22 July 2016 - 12:12 AM

Id be interested in seeing the 3770 vs 6700 in tests with the new card for sure.   I was planning on waiting for zen and see if it is any better than the 3770.  


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Posted 25 July 2016 - 11:54 PM

Which universal gpu block did you go with?


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Posted 30 July 2016 - 09:58 AM

my universal blocks are

swiftech mcw60

ek vga supmreme hf

 

mb was posted lastnight via startrack so it should arrive in ~3 working days

gpu\ram still havent had any tracking updates since arriving in melb 4 days ago

cpu is siting there looking at me saying rip my ihs of already


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Posted 01 August 2016 - 12:10 PM

well look what arrived in the mail this morning

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seems i ordered the gtx1070 and got the gtx1070 sc :)

 

ran 3dmark the cards fans didnt even start gpu topped out at 61c running

clocks were 1866-1950 with the card at stock

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/9590534


Edited by Dasa, 01 August 2016 - 12:20 PM.

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Posted 01 August 2016 - 12:52 PM

Nice score on the SC version hoping you get some good OC out of it! 


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Posted 01 August 2016 - 01:03 PM

well the mem just ran 3dmark at +898 with some minor artifacts
100% fan speed went up to ~4000rpm then dropped back to ~3000rpm temps didnt go over 42c
with power tune at 112%
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/9590923
 
+100 boost
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/9590983
with +135 boost it was running ~2050-2130 but it was getting some black tearing  artifacts and the score was lower
still havent looked at tweaking the v
 
thatl do for now +120 boost
16002
seems msi afterburner managed a more stable boost clock than evga precision x oc at ~2050-2114 powertune\v maxed 4800mem
maxing the v didnt seem to make much difference maybe it stayed at 1050mv longer instead of just spiking up to it

 

nice little improvement over the first test with the gpu at stock clocks
13952

 

heaven seems stable with +100 boost ~2000-2050mhz and +750mem

may need to drop it a little more

seems ok with the fan curve se to keep it under 55c

crashed fairly quick once the gpu hit 75c at the default fan setting


Edited by Dasa, 01 August 2016 - 05:43 PM.

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Posted 02 August 2016 - 01:31 AM

Curious. If you run 112% and vcore all the way up, do you see the core drop when OC due to the card hitting the powerlimit? Are you seeing it hover around 108+?

At stock, with 112% what does your core run at when gaming.

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Posted 02 August 2016 - 09:23 AM

heaven stock with tweaked fan

1974 max boost while card was still cold after it had settled at 55c1885-1949 system power use 225-240w

gpu-z showing performance limit kicking in frequently due to power sitting at ~95%

gpu is at 1v

 

 

once the powertune is maxed the cards v goes up automatically to 1024-1060mv now the card is largely limited by v and power going by gpu-z sitting around 105%

the v slider doesnt seem to work

clocks stabilize at 1936-1974 with the gpu at 60c

power use at the wall is ~240-260w

 

this could change a lot from one game\benchmark to the next

my card has a bit of coil wine especially once overclocked in high fps benchmarks

its not very noticeable at ~60fps


Edited by Dasa, 02 August 2016 - 09:45 AM.

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Posted 02 August 2016 - 10:11 AM

heaven seems stable with +100 boost ~2000-2050mhz and +750mem

may need to drop it a little more

seems ok with the fan curve se to keep it under 55c

crashed fairly quick once the gpu hit 75c at the default fan setting

 

Woah, really? Are GPU's honestly getting that sensitive to heat as the die size drops?

 

I have an HD7950 (or is it a HD9750.... either way...) I like to keep the fan locked at 20% because its lost its bearings and makes a hell of a racket if I let it go above.

It often hits 90*C+

Its set for 120%V, and maxed out both the Radeon clock sliders (GPU and Memory).

Never artifacted. and the heatsink is held on by a single central ziptie....


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Posted 02 August 2016 - 01:26 PM

yeah my 7970 didnt care about temp at all ether but then it didnt scale to well with extra v it just topped out at ~1100 with low v and ~1175 with high v

the 290 liked being on water but it was getting way to hot on air when i tried to run 1200mhz

be interesting to see if others find there newer nvidia\amd cards to be so sensitive to temperature or if its just this one

this gpu only has 4+1 phases with no temperature probe so hopefully there not getting to hot like some older nvidia reference cards that burnt up


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Posted 02 August 2016 - 01:52 PM

this gpu only has 4+1 phases with no temperature probe so hopefully there not getting to hot like some older nvidia reference cards that burnt up

 

Heh. Power phase cooling is often overlooked isn't it.

I have a DFI LanpartyJr X58-T3H going strong, that ran my 920 at 4GHZ all day.

I think I'm the only one who has one that didn't totally fry its PWM's.

I got another 5 turns of the nuts, on the rear of the heatsink, before the thermal pads actually bottomed out.

Shit was loose! Making contact, but not enough.

 

These days, whenever I see PWMs or... well..... any exposed chip...... it gets the finger test. If its hot to touch, it gets a stick-on Ramsink.

Overkill? Probably. But the 25c or so per chip it costs me, is outweighed by a stable system and the 'fun' of modding.

 

My Modem stopped dropping wifi once I heatsinked its chip. It was literally too hot to touch, even for a second.

 

and my cars audio amplifier, once I replaced the cheap paste with Gelid GC EXTREME, the case got MUCH hotter (good), and the amp stopped cutting out when DB testing ;)


Edited by Master_Scythe, 02 August 2016 - 01:54 PM.

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Posted 02 August 2016 - 11:33 PM

Id be interested in seeing the 3770 vs 6700 in tests with the new card for sure.   I was planning on waiting for zen and see if it is any better than the 3770.  

I'm also interested in this. I have a 3570K in my old gaming rig and have considered upgrading, but aren't really sure if there is any point yet...



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Posted 03 August 2016 - 12:31 AM

trying to work out what games to test and how best to go about it

this is fallout 4 with data captured by msi afterburner

unfortunately it doesn't seem to be able to read fps in a few games like arma3 or coh2

 

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got a bit of data gathered now ready for the 6700k

stock for the ram is 1600c11

gpu is at +75boost +750mem +112 power 100% fan except for a few noted tests in r6

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r6 your typical gpu heavy game

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Edited by Dasa, 03 August 2016 - 09:09 PM.

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Posted 03 August 2016 - 09:08 PM

and good old arma

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if there is any of the data your interested in from the first fallout image power\usage the data is all there so i can graph it if you wish


Edited by Dasa, 03 August 2016 - 09:14 PM.

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Posted 03 August 2016 - 09:19 PM

So those are tests with the new GPU and old CPU right?


Edited by smakme7757, 03 August 2016 - 09:19 PM.





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