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#1 Fragasaurus

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Posted 05 December 2016 - 12:31 AM

Hurrow!

 

My wife is a primary school teacher, and her class (or any other class in the whole damn primary school) has no access to PC's. I need/want to remedy this, but I'm stumped on how to go about it. I'm thinking I could either go down the second hand route, buy small form factor boxes or some sort of high powered single box VM shennanigans (which I know absolutely nothing about).

 

Looking to build/run 3 separate systems.

 

Any help appreciated, budget being reasonably cheep.

 

Edit: More than likely using a version of Windows as the O/S


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Posted 05 December 2016 - 09:07 AM

It's a shame you need Windows, as much as I'm personally a Windows guy myself, Ubuntu UNITY is actually golden these days, easier than apple even!

IF YOU'RE WILLING to use Ubuntu, then the new RaspberryPI-3 is a quad core 1.2ghz and about $50 each; they don't lag down for things like web browsing and office.

 

OTHERWISE, if you're dead set on Windows, an Intel NUC\Gigabyte BRIX will do amazingly well.

http://www.warehouse...CFQqAvQodWjUPhg

$158

 

+4GB DDR3L Ram

http://www.warehouse...ion=ViewProduct

$35

 

+ 120GB INTEL SSD

http://www.warehouse...ion=ViewProduct

$55

 

Total, $248.

 

 

Add the cost of your chosen OS; I'd probably go the 'shady' router of buying them for cheap on ebay.

Monitors are a steal second hand, get some 19" or so monitors.

and keyboard and mice, will surely be 'free' on gumtree, or from Atomicans.


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Posted 05 December 2016 - 09:13 AM

Yep, the NUC route might be the way - for a traditional new desktop PC you'd be lucky to scrape in under $300 just for CPU, motherboard and Ram alone - then be up for about the same again once you consider HDD, graphics, case, power, OS, peripherals - then cost of monitors which as stated can be gotten cheap/free 2nd-hand.  Example of a couple of sets of base components, headed towards midrange by today's standards:

 

AMD - FX-6300 (3C/6T, 3.5-4.1 GHz) $148

 Asus M5-A97 R2.0 motherboard $133  http://www.asus.com/...ards/M5A97_R20/

 

Intel - Core i5-6400 (4C/4T, 2.7-3.3 GHz) $237

 Asus B150M Pro Gaming motherboard $134  http://www.asus.com/...50M-PRO-GAMING/



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Posted 05 December 2016 - 10:14 AM

Yep, the NUC route might be the way - for a traditional new desktop PC you'd be lucky to scrape in under $300 just for CPU, motherboard and Ram alone - then be up for about the same again once you consider HDD, graphics, case, power, OS, peripherals - then cost of monitors which as stated can be gotten cheap/free 2nd-hand.  Example of a couple of sets of base components, headed towards midrange by today's standards:

 

AMD - FX-6300 (3C/6T, 3.5-4.1 GHz) $148

 Asus M5-A97 R2.0 motherboard $133  http://www.asus.com/...ards/M5A97_R20/

 

Intel - Core i5-6400 (4C/4T, 2.7-3.3 GHz) $237

 Asus B150M Pro Gaming motherboard $134  http://www.asus.com/...50M-PRO-GAMING/

And with Windows 10, for Office and Internet use, there will be no speed difference IMO...

Darn NUCs lol


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#5 Jeruselem

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Posted 05 December 2016 - 12:46 PM

3 x Raspberry 3 (running Ubuntu Mate or raspian or n00bs) + 3 x monitors + other bits for Linux system

 

For Windows, 3 x Intel NUC type systems + 3 x monitors

 

(You build an Intel PC from a Intel single board but it would cost more than the NUC in the end)


Edited by Jeruselem, 05 December 2016 - 12:53 PM.

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#6 Rybags

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Posted 05 December 2016 - 01:03 PM

If you want real cheapo, Android HDMI dongles.  Throw in cheap USB hubs, mouse and keyboard you'd probably get under $70 each then just have to worry about TV or monitor.



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Posted 05 December 2016 - 01:10 PM

http://www.harveynor...ne-desktop.html

 

Would something like this be affordable? All-in-one PC with everything and Windows 10 license too and only $400.


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Posted 05 December 2016 - 03:12 PM

Those all in ones actually arent bad. Weve used them at work.

 

theother option being HP STREAMS at $298

https://www.jbhifi.c...-laptop/842537/


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#9 Fragasaurus

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Posted 05 December 2016 - 03:54 PM

Thanks Atomicans, plenty of food for thought with those options.


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#10 SquallStrife

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Posted 06 December 2016 - 09:33 AM

I advise away from solutions like Android sticks and Raspberry Pi for an environment like this. They're tolerable for use in your nerd living room where it doesn't matter if there's a hard freeze or crash-to-shell now and then, but not so much for productive work.

Going the NUC route is going to give you the smoothest ride, and the least "cobbled together" experience for the students.

A more important question perhaps, why isn't the school paying for this? Where is the government money that is meant to pay for computers and shit? How is it the end of 2016 and there exists a school with /no/ computers?

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#11 Master_Scythe

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Posted 06 December 2016 - 09:53 AM

A more important question perhaps, why isn't the school paying for this? Where is the government money that is meant to pay for computers and shit? How is it the end of 2016 and there exists a school with /no/ computers?

 

IF he's in Queensland;

This was called the "National Secondary School Computer Fund (NSSCF)", called in common speaking terms "Nescafe program". It was ended 2 years ago I believe, leaving schools to fund their own laptops.

The BYO program then came into effect, where students were required to bring their own PC to attend school.

Yes, the school often does buy some 'shared resources' but due to past damage, they're often VERY nervous about lending them.

IF you're aboriginal, you're set! They find top of the line Alienware stuff sometimes.

 

As for, R-Pi's, the new model 3, is rock solid. It'd be ideal if they wanted office and internet only; However, since they're probably looking at building computer skills, the HP streams are my go-to.

Mainly because students can take them home if needed, and the school can lock them in a safe if they're in a bad area.

 

Laptops can always have monitors and keyboards.


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