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#1 chrisg

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Posted 07 January 2017 - 04:10 PM

I'm not really a 'phone expert at all, networking is my thing but I'm confused.

 

Both my wife and I have exactly the same 'phone and on exactly the same software, they are both pretty plain Jane - we don't game on them, I have a few extra apps but they are not autostart, yet they are behaving completely differently when all I want to do is add ES File Explorer to both...

 

I can't say I like this latest version of Android much either, things that were easy are suddenly a bit obtuse.

 

Specific problems:

 

App downloaded on mine, having fun getting the icon onto the home page - it was supposed to do it itself but I'll sort that out

 

Does not want to install on my wife's one at all,  taking the "leave it alone" approach at the moment but she is the one who needs it because she put a heap of pictures up on "Smart Drive" instead of keeping them local and now can't seem to readily access them to email to people.

 

Anyone use this programme or able to suggest a better file manager?

 

I went with it on the advice of HowtoGeek but thus far not really impressed.

 

Believe me, it's a good 'phone, it's I think this latest version of Android.

 

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Posted 08 January 2017 - 10:56 AM

Weird, I got es file explorer installed on my nougat android 7.1.1 android TV device which doesn't support standard stuff like google chrome ...

You didn't say what phone you have btw.

Confusingly es file explorer has two nearly identical entries in google play store.
One is version 1.08 pro and 4.1.54 which is the working free version.

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Posted 08 January 2017 - 12:05 PM

:)

 

I did but only in the subtitle - Moto X Style.

 

Yes I noticed the two versions but definitely dowloaded the free one to both 'phones.

 

It is weird, I'll just have to keep plugging away at it.

 

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Posted 08 January 2017 - 12:25 PM

You can side load the es file explorer apk file on an android phone if google play isn't behaving itself but that does open a potential security issue.

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Posted 08 January 2017 - 06:30 PM

Hmm,

 

I'd thought of that - security I can handle by other means. I'm just starting to wonder if this is the right file manager for her, she's not very tech savvy and I have no idea what she has been doing with hr phone :)

 

Thing is step-daughter has a new baby and has been sending through pics via her iPhone - I really do not care what people believe it is too easy for an iPhone user who is just that, a user, to cause problems for an Android recipient who is equally or more naive...

 

I need to have a think and do some research - it's not urgent but it is bemusing...

 

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Posted 08 January 2017 - 07:51 PM

You could connect the phone to a pc and manage the files as a mass storage device.

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Posted 09 January 2017 - 09:30 AM

Yeah, tried that, not quite sure what she did but didn't work :)

 

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Posted 09 January 2017 - 09:38 AM

Sounds like I'd be backing up the contacts, factory restoring the phone, and starting again.

If you dont know what she's been doing, and you dont think she knows either, it's better safe than sorry.

 

But yes, ES is a tough program.

 

It's better to teach her to save files from within the MMS messages, then mass storage device on the PC.

I understand it 'didnt work' but that's what i'd be focising on getting working...


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Posted 09 January 2017 - 10:22 AM

Hmm, I would go back everything up as humanly possible and reset the phone.


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Posted 10 January 2017 - 12:01 AM

Default to put new programs on the home screen or not can vary among versions or devices and you can run entirely different launchers which can take over the entire GUI in themselves and change the behaviour.

 

I use ES FS here, often a device will have a file manager included but it's usually pretty basic and underpowered.



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Posted 10 January 2017 - 09:37 AM

Hmm,

 

Yes, it may come to that, she's just using the default launcher but from a chat with Motorola support a lot of people, actually including me, are less than happy with the latest Android version - a lot has changed, for no apparent reason.

 

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 01:39 PM

I need ES FS on my nexus player, just because I can do stuff with OTG drives.

The defaults apps on the Nexus player are awful.


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Posted 10 January 2017 - 01:57 PM

Hmm,

 

Yes, it may come to that, she's just using the default launcher but from a chat with Motorola support a lot of people, actually including me, are less than happy with the latest Android version - a lot has changed, for no apparent reason.

 

Cheers

 

I'm usually a stickler for "It works, dont break it!" but, just like Android evolved from the clunky 'Gingerbread' we used to hate to the smooth Lollipop (yes I'm skipping steps to what I thought was significant); you'll soon realize Android Nougat is a huge leap forward in usability.

 

Change can suck, and I despise change, but this time, they've FINALLY made it feel like an 'operating system' rather than a huge bunch of services clumped together.


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Posted 10 January 2017 - 03:23 PM

What are you doing that necessitates ES File Explorer anyway?
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Posted 10 January 2017 - 03:33 PM

What are you doing that necessitates ES File Explorer anyway?

 

I'm going to wager a guess at file management :P

 

The built in file explorer in Android is shithouse when it comes to trying to save or move files between say, an OTG usb stick and the phone.

Something I do daily to backup my phone to my keychain; just as one example :)


Edited by Master_Scythe, 10 January 2017 - 03:33 PM.

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 05:01 PM

What are you doing that necessitates ES File Explorer anyway?

:)

 

It's not what I'm doing, it's some stupidity click and drool my wife has been doing - personally I treat "Smart phones" as morons that need medical attention :)

 

She's one of those clean-up fanatics that always wants to shove stuff into folders and then delete originals.

 

This time she picked the wrong folder and it is proving a chore :)

 

I'll get there but it would be useful if she could tell me what she did, but she has no idea :)

 

We are talking about a 71 year old woman with a cardiac condition and other medical issues and pictures of her first grandchild that she has put somewhere and we can't retrieve them - welcome to the cloud :)

 

She's learned her lesson, I told her you have masses of spare local space why the fuck would you not keep them local ?

 

I THINK that sunk in :)

 

It's half her daughter's fault though, iPhone addict, so instead of sending her mother pictures in email , which her mother understands, she keeps doing this SMS bullshit.

 

Eh, will clean it up, but I will repeat, currently I do not like this latest version of Android much...I can see why you say it is on track, but it would be nice to have some Nikes for the trip :)

 

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 05:48 PM

Heh, my mum has trouble using a windows phone. She's around the same age as your wife. Mind you she's using Viber a lot recently.

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 09:12 AM

It's half her daughter's fault though, iPhone addict, so instead of sending her mother pictures in email , which her mother understands, she keeps doing this SMS bullshit.

 

Eh, will clean it up, but I will repeat, currently I do not like this latest version of Android much...I can see why you say it is on track, but it would be nice to have some Nikes for the trip :)

 

Cheers

 

 

Heh, my favorite part about Android Nougat, is that its, IMO the final usability nail in the coffin to attack Apple fanbois.

 

I'm happy to admit where apple has some neat exclusive apps, and what not, so that lures some people (my mate uses it purely for its receipt scanner, which android doesn't have nearly as automated); but when peopl try and call out usabiility, polish, 'logical' use patterns, simplicity, etc.

 

I can finally wave android in their face and show them alphabetical app draws, nice icons, fast lag free response, and even 'simple mode'.

Ah bliss :P


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Posted 11 January 2017 - 11:52 AM

Having actually played with a Pixel in a Telstra shop, I readily admit that Android is finally "here" in terms of the user experience.

You can reliably do all the common tasks without ever being exposed to a directory structure. Lack of an SD card slot means there's no more stupidity with content in disparate data stores. Google's voice assist is on-par with Siri in all the ways that count. Google Music finally has feature parity with Apple Music. Etc etc etc.

And providing that Samsung and others can get their shit together and be consistent with updates, the heterogeneity factor is becoming less and less relevant as time goes on. Hopefully.

Android is finally coming of age. It's good for everybody.

But to "wave in their face"?? The only answer you'll get to that kind of smarmy shit is "took you long enough".

Android phones have been around since 2008 (HTC Dream, I owned one!!), only 1 year after the first iPhone, and yet its taken them until now to deliver a cohesive user experience. Pretty lackluster effort if you ask me. Good that they finally made it though, it'll only help push things forward.
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Posted 11 January 2017 - 12:10 PM

But to "wave in their face"?? The only answer you'll get to that kind of smarmy shit is "took you long enough".
 

 

Don't worry, if they try that, I always have Symbian to fall back on. Copy paste, multitasking, browsable directories, while they were still in '1 app, no 3G' territory.

 

They want newer? Blackberry from 6~10 also kicks their ass in too many ways to list. Even ecosystem; office, PDF, and even social media was current until a few months ago.

 

If they want to play the superiority game, there has been something ahead of them the entire way.

Remember, we're talking OS vs OS, if they have to start adding apps, disqualified.

 

Really though, whenever someone brings up the 'comparison', I can shut it down in one sentence;

"Nice bluetooth stack, want to send me something? Oh wait! You still don't have file, or printer support....Don't worry, one day you'll reach the 90's"

 

It's all fun and games, horses for courses, but when someone brings up the 'Oh mines better' you just have to be well practiced in counters :)

 

People get oddly defensive of their "Apples". I just move to whatever is currently the best OS, regardless of developer.

If one day apple lets me use my (literally) pocket computer, like a pocket computer, and not like a locked down kiosk PC, I'm all in!


Edited by Master_Scythe, 11 January 2017 - 12:15 PM.

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