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#1 Ishta2000

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Posted 23 February 2017 - 01:47 PM

Hi All,

Been ages since I was on here and I am due for HTPC update.

I am looking for recommendations and suggestions, please.

 

I have a 4K TV so would be nice to be able to play 4K content from my HTPC.

Budget is $500 -$750 and I will be using some of my existing parts such as the SSD's and HHD. I am thinking my GPU could do with an upgrade too.

 

I have a Fractal NODE 605 case but the case us HUGE and I no longer use my HTPC for gaming and I would like to downsize.

Are NUC's any good these days? Sorry been out of the loop for a while with new baby, job and home reno's etc.

 

I am happy to start from scratch but really need advice on parts etc.

 

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Edited by Ishta2000, 23 February 2017 - 01:47 PM.

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#2 Master_Scythe

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Posted 23 February 2017 - 01:48 PM

Without a doubt, this is a case for a RIZEN CPU.

low budget, 4k content? yep.


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Posted 23 February 2017 - 07:48 PM

i3 nuc are good for playback and general use

the larger models only have room for a single 2.5" drive and a m.2 ssd

http://nucblog.net/2...i3bnh-overview/


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Posted 27 February 2017 - 02:33 PM

Hey Ishta2000

 

With a modest budget of less than $1000, it may be hard to upgrade to a 4k capable graphics card.

 

You could wait a little bit to see if the Vega line up from AMD would be good performance/price.

 

But for decent 4k performance, I'd recommend at least a 1060 or equivalent right now, which might cost you half your budget!


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Posted 02 March 2017 - 07:55 AM

The gtx1050 ti is supposedly 4k, well enough to watch videos but games are different matter.

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Posted 02 March 2017 - 08:55 AM

same with is the karbylake igp


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Posted 02 March 2017 - 03:01 PM

same with is the karbylake igp

 

I was about to say that; if its all about budget with no room to move, KabyLake is 4K ready.

No graphics card required.

 

Mobo, CPU, 4GB of RAM, and an old HDD or small SSD.

Done.


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Posted 05 March 2017 - 01:50 PM

So just waiting for OP  to confirm purpose for the PC :)


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#9 Ishta2000

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Posted 24 April 2017 - 11:31 PM

Sorry everyone it has been a crazy couple of months and I am back to looking at upgrading now that I have a little more time up my sleeve.

 

The main purpose of the PC is a HTPC capable of allowing me to watch 4K content with no lags.

I don't game on PC anymore so that is not needed.

I am on a tight budge so was thinking of keeping everything I have except cpu, mobo, RAM?, GPU (see my signature for details). 

The reason I am upgrading is because I keep getting BSOD or PC hangs and I have to switch off and restart. I dont really have the time to sit down and work out exactly what is causing the BSOD.

Suggestions on parts would be appreciated. 

 

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Posted 24 April 2017 - 11:41 PM

I'd be looking for the cause of the BSOD.  Maybe an inadvertant overclock or Ram set manually on the edge of it's capabilities?

 

By the looks of things there the only weak link is the graphics card (which in itself could be the problem maker).

4K content will often by H.265 HEVC encoding which current generation graphics cards have decoding assist for.  HEVC has been around only a few years, the HD 7000 series predates it by about a year.

 

Maybe try setting up a minimal system to chase down the crash problem.  Your CPU has the inbuilt graphics so if the motherboard supports it you could try leaving the graphics card out and see if it makes a difference.



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Posted 25 April 2017 - 09:25 AM

I'd be looking for the cause of the BSOD.  Maybe an inadvertant overclock or Ram set manually on the edge of it's capabilities?

 

By the looks of things there the only weak link is the graphics card (which in itself could be the problem maker).

4K content will often by H.265 HEVC encoding which current generation graphics cards have decoding assist for.  HEVC has been around only a few years, the HD 7000 series predates it by about a year.

 

Maybe try setting up a minimal system to chase down the crash problem.  Your CPU has the inbuilt graphics so if the motherboard supports it you could try leaving the graphics card out and see if it makes a difference.

Thanks Rybags. I will try taking out the Video card and try running graphics off the Mobo and see if that helps. 

What graphics card would you recommend if it is the culprit? 

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Posted 25 April 2017 - 01:45 PM

Before taking the card out you'd probably want to get the integrated graphics going.  There should be a Bios option to turn it on and another to define how much Ram to allocate to it, something like 256 or 512 Meg should be plenty for testing purposes.  Then you'll probably need to grab the driver for it, best to just hit up the motherboard support page for your model.

 

What graphics card to use - no idea actually.  Video requirements are different to gaming.  You can potentially have a card that's crap for hires gaming but renders 4K video just fine.  I don't have any >HD monitors so can't really put forward any ideas there, I would suspect probably a 60 model or better card would be required.



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Posted 27 April 2017 - 06:49 PM

Could look at the 1050 low profile for an HTPC, only 2gb of ram so gaming won't be great, but will handle an HTPC


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Posted 28 April 2017 - 09:20 AM

Could look at the 1050 low profile for an HTPC, only 2gb of ram so gaming won't be great, but will handle an HTPC

 

Yeah but absolutely no need if he gets a KabyLake CPU; it's 4K ready with the on-chip GPU.


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Posted 28 April 2017 - 09:58 AM

 

Could look at the 1050 low profile for an HTPC, only 2gb of ram so gaming won't be great, but will handle an HTPC

 

Yeah but absolutely no need if he gets a KabyLake CPU; it's 4K ready with the on-chip GPU.

 

 

I got the impression he's using the CPU from his old system.


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Posted 17 May 2017 - 04:22 PM

Whichever case he's got options :)

Could also look at buying a pre-made from something like our Brix series:

https://www.mwave.co...7th-gen-ab93279


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#17 Rybags

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Posted 17 May 2017 - 05:19 PM

Our?

 

Got FAQ knowledge?  You're not supposed to be pushing your own commercial interests in these forums.



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Posted 18 May 2017 - 08:51 AM

Our?

 

Got FAQ knowledge?  You're not supposed to be pushing your own commercial interests in these forums.

 

Let him be, he's been contributing well, and never saying "ONLY buy this one", he's just saying his product is suitable :)

if he gets too pushy, we'll worry then :)


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