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#1 TazDCassar

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Posted 27 July 2017 - 10:14 AM

Hi, Just wanted to know if WiFi Extenders need the Ethernet connection to work? As I see them on all extenders on online shops. Also, there is no connection to the computer/ethernet in the lounge room which is where it will go. I also just got NBN last week. Does anyone have any preference to a particular one? Thanks for your response.



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Posted 27 July 2017 - 10:24 AM

Repeaters is what you mean, and no they don't.

Catch is, they suffer from one major problem. DHCP lease time.

 

 

in THEORY, you can statically assign them, and no problems.

In the real world, they tend not to re-negotiate if they ever drop the wifi signal, and aren't on DHCP.

So, you end up having to re-boot them every time the DHCP lease expires.

 

I'm sure there are some brands that don't need this, but I've tried a few by now.....

 

A better solution is to get a powerline-ethernet kit, and run a second wifi access point up the other end of the house (powerpoints creating a cabled thernet connection between them), with the same SSID, same password, but on a different channel.

Turn the transmit power down so they only JUUUUSSSTTT overlap.

This way, they don't prompt you to switch access points, they'll hope between each other with only a few seconds of renegotiating.

 

Otherwise, if you get 1 unstable bar where you are, and you just want the wifi to be stable and work, You could try a Ubiquiti AC LR, they're amazing, and in real world use, I've seen them cover literally DOUBLE the distance a traditional consumer level device has.

https://www.ubnt.com...unifi-ap-ac-lr/

 

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Edited by Master_Scythe, 27 July 2017 - 10:26 AM.

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#3 aliali

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Posted 27 July 2017 - 01:16 PM

 

Catch is, they suffer from one major problem. DHCP lease time.

Not had that issue with the WDS/repeater stuff I have done, but I have only used TP-Links with fixed LAN IPs.

IMO the biggest issue with wifi extenders/WDs type things is you at the bare minimum halve the available wireless bandwidth.

Using the higher end 5Ghz wireless AC stuff it's not so bad but as nearly everyone goes for a cheap 150 or 300Mbps 2.4Ghz repeater it becomes a serious issue especially with streaming services or multiple users.

Also don't forget a repeater still has to be within good reception range of the primary wireless router. No point in putting it where it gets minimal signal as that will cause slow speeds and drop outs.

 

Do it once do it right get a registered cabler in to run an Ethernet lead from the router location to where you want better wireless then fit a wireless AP..

 

If for some reason you can't or won't do that then as M_S said try EoP, If the area to be covered by wireless is not more than one room you can even get EoP kits with built in wireless, EG

http://www.tp-link.c...PA7510-KIT.html

http://www.staticice...=wpa7510&spos=3

 

http://www.tp-link.c...WPA4220KIT.html

http://www.staticice...4220KIT &spos=1

 

https://www.dlink.co...600-starter-kit

http://www.staticice...P-W313AV&spos=1

Note the TP-Links at least have an Ethernet port on the remote device so you can connect a computer or switch to it as well. Also note these things can hate surge protection type power boards so should be plugged directly in to the power point.

 

 

 

Ubiquiti AC LR

Not used the LRs myself but even the old UAP was pretty good.


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Posted 27 July 2017 - 01:31 PM

Ubiquiti AC LR

 

Not used the LRs myself but even the old UAP was pretty good.

 

 

You're missing out.....

The one I used, in a 2 story house covered almost the entire block! (as in street block, not single property block)


Edited by Master_Scythe, 27 July 2017 - 01:32 PM.

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Posted 27 July 2017 - 02:44 PM

 

 

You're missing out.....

The one I used, in a 2 story house covered almost the entire block! (as in street block, not single property block)

 

Got no real need for them myself. My Fritz! 7390 covers my small weatherboard 2br house easily and to give my mother internet through my connection I have a point to point link over the 80 odd metre distance.

One end is an Edimax 7303HPn v2.0 (got it cheap otherwise would have used a Ubiquiti of some sort) and the remote end is a TP-Link WR743ND v2 with a directional antenna (had these sitting here spare so may as well use them).

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