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#21 chrisg

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Posted 15 August 2017 - 04:05 PM

 

Pessimist :)

 

Half a dozen bullets could change our course entirely, or just let the old morons drop off the perch - mind you, I'm not too sure the millennials are going to be much use at steering the planet in a better direction...

 

As to the first, maybe.  About humanity, certainly, but generally far from it.

 

For the second, no, it's really much, much worse than that.  Things have been set in motion now that will require sustained and concerted effort to halt, let alone reverse - efforts which will severely impact oligarchs world wide.  It's not going to happen.

 

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You'd be surprised, domino affect can have massive implications.

 

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Posted 15 August 2017 - 08:25 PM

http://www.abc.net.a...le-plan/8810174

Kim decides to delay missile shooting for now

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Posted 16 August 2017 - 07:41 AM

Malcy is sending troops to korea for war games, thanks malcy.
http://mobile.abc.ne...r-games/8811246

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Posted 16 August 2017 - 02:17 PM

it wont.


Err, after seeing Trump's tanty today, I may have gone early.

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Posted 16 August 2017 - 03:56 PM

 

it wont.


Err, after seeing Trump's tanty today, I may have gone early.

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Let's just hope he doesn't...

 

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Posted 16 August 2017 - 04:21 PM

:)

 

Sometimes fiction is close to the potential truth...

 

https://www.bookdepo...0?ref=grid-view

 

I might even buy that :)

 

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Posted 17 August 2017 - 03:03 PM

Hmm,

 

I'd forgotten about the chemical warfare stocks NK has been building up over the years but was reminded today.

 

Mostly Sarin, which any idiot could make but nasty, nasty stuff - that complicates things.

 

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Posted 29 August 2017 - 10:30 AM

Another NK missile test over Japan, nothing to see

http://www.independe...s-a7917401.html


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Posted 29 August 2017 - 10:55 AM

Another NK missile test over Japan, nothing to see

http://www.independe...s-a7917401.html

 

Yeah, I thought the same thing.

 

Why haven't they stormed the gates yet?  I thought it was fairly widely acknowledged  that China has said they WONT back them, if they continue to be idiots; paraphrasing :P but only a little.


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Posted 29 August 2017 - 11:08 AM

Mostly Sarin, which any idiot could make but nasty, nasty stuff - that complicates things.


Any idiot indeed. That was the stuff Aum Shinrikyo put through the Tokyo subway, wasn't it? And those fellas weren't the brightest bulbs in the pack.

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Posted 29 August 2017 - 11:15 AM

I just had to double check with my work colleague, who is Chinese and fairly recently immigrated

"How likely is China to support NK if something was to happen?"

Basically?

'The people think NK is stupid, and won't support the government if they tried to back them.'

 

Good to hear.

I know China is a little dictator-y, and 'what the people' want doesn't go to a vote or anything very often, but if that's the public consensus? A government needs people behind it if it wants to lead at all, lol.


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#32 chrisg

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Posted 29 August 2017 - 11:55 AM

Hmm,

 

The Chinese government is always a bit careful to not upset the populace simply because there is a massive population who have been known to revolt before, there is no way the government would survive such a revolt.

 

I'd think Japan must be getting more than tired of this crap by now but they have no missile capability of there own to retaliate with. On the other hand turn the JSDF loose and Kim will be shitting in his pants - I've exercised against those guys, bloody good warriors.

 

You are dead right on sarin Cybes - I'm not about to publish the recipe but it is easier than the meal I'm making tonight...

 

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#33 Jeruselem

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Posted 29 August 2017 - 11:56 AM

Hmm,

 

The Chinese government is always a bit careful to not upset the populace simply because there is a massive population who have been known to revolt before, there is no way the government would survive such a revolt.

 

I'd think Japan must be getting more than tired of this crap by now but they have no missile capability of there own to retaliate with. On the other hand turn the JSDF loose and Kim will be shitting in his pants - I've exercised against those guys, bloody good warriors.

 

You are dead right on sarin Cybes - I'm not about to publish the recipe but it is easier than the meal I'm making tonight...

 

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Probably why the Yanks nuked Japan twice to end WW2.


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Posted 29 August 2017 - 12:14 PM

 

Hmm,

 

The Chinese government is always a bit careful to not upset the populace simply because there is a massive population who have been known to revolt before, there is no way the government would survive such a revolt.

 

I'd think Japan must be getting more than tired of this crap by now but they have no missile capability of there own to retaliate with. On the other hand turn the JSDF loose and Kim will be shitting in his pants - I've exercised against those guys, bloody good warriors.

 

You are dead right on sarin Cybes - I'm not about to publish the recipe but it is easier than the meal I'm making tonight...

 

Cheers

 

Probably why the Yanks nuked Japan twice to end WW2.

 

 

 

I think that was more of a 'we wanna try this new toy, and we don't understand the effects of fallout fully, yet"


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Posted 29 August 2017 - 12:26 PM

 

Hmm,

 

The Chinese government is always a bit careful to not upset the populace simply because there is a massive population who have been known to revolt before, there is no way the government would survive such a revolt.

 

I'd think Japan must be getting more than tired of this crap by now but they have no missile capability of there own to retaliate with. On the other hand turn the JSDF loose and Kim will be shitting in his pants - I've exercised against those guys, bloody good warriors.

 

You are dead right on sarin Cybes - I'm not about to publish the recipe but it is easier than the meal I'm making tonight...

 

Cheers

 

Probably why the Yanks nuked Japan twice to end WW2.

 

Hmm,

 

I was in a think-tank that discussed that once. Conventional thinking had it that nuking two cities saved an invasion, less conventional said that having spent all that time and money on the Manhattan Project they had to use them.

 

I tend to the latter, but I'm well on the record for wishing they hadn't - courtesy of living around nukes I quite literally tick, it is quite possible you do as well, it sort of depends how old you are. In the days of my youth they were still doing open air nuclear tests and the fall-out was carried clean around the world, in both hemispheres several times.

 

Then I lived around the things in the forces, I seem to be pretty resistant but I avoid X-Rays these days :)

 

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#36 Jeruselem

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Posted 29 August 2017 - 01:00 PM

Invasion of Japan during WW2 would have been horrendeously expensive for the USA unless they talked the Emperor into surrendering.

NK isnt' going be much different except both sides have nukes which makes things even more problematic.


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Posted 29 August 2017 - 01:47 PM

Invasion of Japan during WW2 would have been horrendeously expensive for the USA unless they talked the Emperor into surrendering.

NK isnt' going be much different except both sides have nukes which makes things even more problematic.

Hmm,

 

They do not have an equivalent to THAAD though, so basically they'd be shooting blanks :)

 

There was never much of an intention by the U.S. to actually invade Japan - they had plans but with most of the Japanese navy on the bottom of the ocean and their air force blown to pieces, their huge battleships and massive B-29 forces could have just kept pummeling the place to wrack and ruin.

 

Instead they nuked two cities which did send a pretty strong message - many do not realise the nightly fire-bombing of Tokyo and Yokohama killed more than the nukes did...

 

The background history remains convoluted and I doubt the U.S. was blameless but Japan attacking Pearl Harbor was one of the stupider acts in history - not a good idea to awake a sleeping giant...

 

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Posted 31 August 2017 - 10:19 AM

Meanwhile in TrumpLand, another missile test too

http://www.abc.net.a...ii-test/8858536


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Posted 03 September 2017 - 10:04 AM

Kim says he's got a hydrogen bomb now.
Well he hasn't tested it yet.

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Posted 03 September 2017 - 12:00 PM

Kim says he's got a hydrogen bomb now.
Well he hasn't tested it yet.

I don't believe they have the ability.

 

In real terms a fission bomb is not too difficult, a fission/fusion/fission device is much more difficult. The core ingredients are not difficult, deuterium and tritium can be extracted from sea water, but the fission compression to produce the fusion is a work of engineering that I don't see NK having.

 

Kim will keep flapping his gums though - I really do think a quick SF raid to exterminate the idiot and his potential successors might be rather a good idea.

 

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