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#41 Jeruselem

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Posted 04 September 2017 - 07:25 AM

He just tested it, and it worked. Earthquake of 6.3 detected at an nk test site.

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Posted 04 September 2017 - 10:10 AM

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Posted 10 September 2017 - 03:36 PM

He just tested it, and it worked. Earthquake of 6.3 detected at an nk test site.

Heh,

 

Probably not, more likely a simpler nuke that disturbed the plates - not spectacularly stable up there, but they love the drama...

 

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Posted 11 September 2017 - 08:14 AM

That mountain gets smaller every new test in nk

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Posted 15 September 2017 - 11:33 AM

Another missile launch over Japan from Kim


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Posted 15 September 2017 - 03:37 PM

Another missile launch over Japan from Kim

Heh,

 

I wonder how many pieces that one came apart into ?

 

There's an articles making the rounds saying they are difficult to intercept so that is why they have not done so.

 

What a load of rubbish, between Standards off both USN and JSDF ships, THAAD in two known locations and Patriot 3s on Japan itself, it would be a turkey shoot...

 

Journalists, it's another word for fuckwit - what is actually happening is restraint - how much longer might be a different story.

 

However in my view a surgical air strike is called for, especially since Kim Idiot threatened Guam which has enough bombers on a regular basis to flatten his entire country in one pass.

 

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Posted 15 September 2017 - 03:44 PM

the news refers to it as an icbm, but it's more incontinent than intercontinental given the splash down distance


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Posted 15 September 2017 - 03:49 PM

However in my view a surgical air strike is called for...

 

Except that China expressly said that would pull them into the conflict due to defence agreements.  And picking a fight with China is a Very Dumb Move.


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Posted 15 September 2017 - 04:00 PM

:)

 

Beijing is running out of patience with Kim, I doubt they'd react Cybes. It's just politics, but picking a fight with China probably would not bother the U.S. much - might bother Beijing - the size and quality of the U.S. forces is pretty impressive...

 

Quite correct Scruffy, compared to even Russian missiles the NK ones are crap, compared to U.S. ones they are stone-age.

 

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Posted 18 September 2017 - 09:59 AM

http://www.news.com....926c9c0a48d8f60

US ‘plans to occupy North Korea after war'

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Posted 18 September 2017 - 02:50 PM

 

However in my view a surgical air strike is called for...

 

Except that China expressly said that would pull them into the conflict due to defence agreements.  And picking a fight with China is a Very Dumb Move.

 

 

I too doubt this.

I was talking to a Chinese colleague of mine, and asking "Really, what's it like inside china, with all this NK stuff?"

 

Paraphrasing;

"The people" hate him, well, more specifically, think he's laughable.

On the flip side, "The people" think Westerners are pretty cool (like a lot of us think Asian stuff is pretty cool).

 

On that note, the government is a lot less 'Totalitarian' than we in the west would believe.

They won't act against "The People", because.... well... there's a lot of them!

 

I know it's all hearsay and conjecture, but it makes a HELL of a lot more sense to look like they realy did try! But be 'swayed by the people', then having China lose their number 1 export partner.

 

Regardless of the whole 'who needs who more' in the import\export game.


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Posted 18 September 2017 - 05:04 PM

... it makes a HELL of a lot more sense to look like they realy did try! But be 'swayed by the people', then having China lose their number 1 export partner.
 
Regardless of the whole 'who needs who more' in the import\export game.


The US would be even more in the shit than China wrt trade, methinks.  Sure, they get to hang on to all that cash they were spending over there (infinitely extended loans they have no hope of ever repaying as well as buying new stuff), but...they need that shit.  Cessation of the rare earth trade alone would be a death knell to the few manufacturers they have left: no high-density batteries, no stupid-strong magnets, no cool dopants for optical fibres and ICs...even funky steel would be out, though how much of that do they make these days? ;p

 

Nah, war between China and the US is a lose/lose for both parties.  That does not make it impossible, though - you'd just need to be stupid or a maniac to do it.  Oh, look... Two of them.


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Posted 19 September 2017 - 01:30 PM

 

... it makes a HELL of a lot more sense to look like they realy did try! But be 'swayed by the people', then having China lose their number 1 export partner.
 
Regardless of the whole 'who needs who more' in the import\export game.

 

 

Nah, war between China and the US is a lose/lose for both parties.  That does not make it impossible, though - you'd just need to be stupid or a maniac to do it.  Oh, look... Two of them.

 

 

Chinese President is proud, but not a lot of his ideas are actually stupid.

As you said, it'd literally be cutting off the nose to spite the face.

 

I guess it comes down to this;

Wealth is VERY important to China.

What has more Value to china?

North Korea?

Or USA 'Partnerships'?


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Posted 19 September 2017 - 04:34 PM

Chinese President is proud, but not a lot of his ideas are actually stupid.
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I guess it comes down to this;
Wealth is VERY important to China.
What has more Value to china?
North Korea?
Or USA 'Partnerships'?

I wasn't refering to China there, but to Kim.

*Pride* is more important. And that's why I think despite all the efforts they can make to get out of it, if Kim triggers the defence agreement they will have no choice. Kim *is* mad or stupid - or both. Trump is both.

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Posted 20 September 2017 - 09:28 AM

http://www.abc.net.a...h-korea/8962100

 

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Edited by Jeruselem, 20 September 2017 - 09:29 AM.

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Posted 20 September 2017 - 09:52 AM

http://www.abc.net.a...h-korea/8962100

 

Very helpful message from our friend Trump (not)

 

I mean, He's really NOT wrong.... but at what cost?


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Posted 20 September 2017 - 10:32 AM

 

http://www.abc.net.a...h-korea/8962100

 

Very helpful message from our friend Trump (not)

 

I mean, He's really NOT wrong.... but at what cost?

 

 

I know he's not wrong but it's not helping the diplomacy of situation.

And Malcy just echoed Trump

http://www.smh.com.a...919-gykvcb.html


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Posted 21 September 2017 - 04:11 PM

this guy has some insights.  most of it isnt new unless youve only consumed superficial media reports about NK.  but bits and pieces were new to me.

 


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Posted 23 September 2017 - 08:40 PM

Maybe Nth Korea will blow itself up... all by itself ...

http://www.abc.net.a...n-cause/8978286

" China's earthquake administration says it has detected a magnitude-3.4 tremor in North Korea that was a "suspected explosion", but South Korea's weather agency says it could be a natural earthquake.

The administration said in a statement on its website that the quake, which occurred around 6:30pm AEST, was recorded a depth of zero kilometres.

Previous quakes from North Korea have indicated nuclear tests by the reclusive state, the most recent earlier this month.

The quake was detected in Kilju county in North Hamgyong Province, where North Korea's known Punggyeri nuclear site is located, according to South Korea's meteorological agency.

The agency said it was analysing the nature of the quake and its initial view was that it was a natural earthquake.

Nuclear proliferation watchdog CTBTO also said it was examining unusual seismic activity in North Korea.

"Analysts looking at unusual #seismic activity of a much smaller magnitude in the #DPRK," CTBTO executive secretary Lassina Zerbo tweeted, adding more details were set to emerge later. China's official news agency Xinhua said the epicentre was roughly at the same place as a similar shallow earthquake on September 3, which turned out to be caused by North Korea's sixth and largest nuclear test. There was no immediate reaction from China's Foreign Ministry.

Tensions have continued to rise since North Korea carried out its sixth nuclear test, prompting a new round of UN sanctions."


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Posted 26 September 2017 - 03:15 PM

http://nypost.com/20...p-declared-war/

 

It's getting better and better from crazy kim and crazy trump


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