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#21 Master_Scythe

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Posted 24 August 2017 - 11:33 AM

Trouble with a lot of ROMs on local telco phones, those are like special roms for that telco and Optus/Telstra/Voda don't have those publicly available for download.

 

If it can be rooted, first thing people usually do is copy the modem file off, and flash to a 'stock rom'.

 

I didnt even need to do any modem trickery for the Oppo.

 

Just flashed the manufacturers optional 'vanilla' rom.


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Posted 24 August 2017 - 05:51 PM

Apparently Xiaomi lock the bootloaders on their phones.

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Posted 25 August 2017 - 01:24 PM

Apparently Xiaomi lock the bootloaders on their phones.

 

Yep, but they unlock them for free also


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Posted 25 August 2017 - 02:46 PM

Isn't unlocking the bootloader a relatively simple thing to do, yourself? Even if it means wiping the phone?
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Posted 25 August 2017 - 03:00 PM

Isn't unlocking the bootloader a relatively simple thing to do, yourself? Even if it means wiping the phone?

 

No, unfortunately.

Since the bootloader is effectively the BIOS of the ROM, its handled a little differently.

In PC terms, think of it as trying to flash some firmware, by formatting your hard drive.

 

And when you DO eventually flash that firmware, if you've picked one that doesn't quite know how to talk to the controller, then it's a brick.


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Posted 31 August 2017 - 11:44 PM

 

Isn't unlocking the bootloader a relatively simple thing to do, yourself? Even if it means wiping the phone?

 

No, unfortunately.

Since the bootloader is effectively the BIOS of the ROM, its handled a little differently.

In PC terms, think of it as trying to flash some firmware, by formatting your hard drive.

 

And when you DO eventually flash that firmware, if you've picked one that doesn't quite know how to talk to the controller, then it's a brick.

 

That's what I'm concerned about, bricking $500. I'm also concerned that the Honor V9 doesn't cover all the 4G bands used by Telstra.


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Posted 01 September 2017 - 08:51 AM

Yeah when there's a good range of Chinese phones available locally (notably the OPPO series, and a few Huawei); I wouldn't gamble $500.

 

but if it was the sort of decision a lot of people make "iPhone or China Phone X" well, you can afford to brick it thrice before you cover the cost


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Posted 01 September 2017 - 08:11 PM

Yeah when there's a good range of Chinese phones available locally (notably the OPPO series, and a few Huawei); I wouldn't gamble $500.

 

but if it was the sort of decision a lot of people make "iPhone or China Phone X" well, you can afford to brick it thrice before you cover the cost

If I had a disposable income I'd probably be doing it as a service (provided it were legal of course)


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Posted 06 September 2017 - 01:35 PM

In the USA, user modifying the firmware on a phone was technically illegal but I think that's changed now. Apple opposed that but anyway.


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Posted 07 September 2017 - 06:47 PM

In the USA, user modifying the firmware on a phone was technically illegal but I think that's changed now. Apple opposed that but anyway.

It's just really annoying that Huawei offer such a budget powerhouse of a phone... and not in Australia... ugh.

 

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Posted 08 September 2017 - 09:18 AM

 

In the USA, user modifying the firmware on a phone was technically illegal but I think that's changed now. Apple opposed that but anyway.

It's just really annoying that Huawei offer such a budget powerhouse of a phone... and not in Australia... ugh.

 

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Yes we get the "budget" Huaweis but not the ones we want.


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Posted 11 September 2017 - 06:58 PM

For chinese market Phone, I heard my friend that xiaomi is good for strong pin. They can use it for a weed, and don't need to worry about pin anymore. Do you know this phone? It's 5 years old in Aliexpress. I think this phone can be good. Although its camera is not good enough.


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Posted 12 September 2017 - 05:59 PM

That's pretty normal. Those Chinese phones have good specs but they shove in some barely adequate camera.

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Posted 28 September 2017 - 06:04 PM

That's pretty normal. Those Chinese phones have good specs but they shove in some barely adequate camera.

The Honor V9/8 Pro has great dual cameras


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Posted 26 January 2018 - 03:13 PM

The amount of phone you get for your dollar right now is ridiculous.

I lost my iPhone 7 Plus in a car-related incident, so had to pick up something cheap to tide me over til my contract finishes.

I've ended up with a Nokia 3, $149 network-locked from Vodafone.

Cameras are "only" 8MP, but the front and back cameras are the same, and Nokia don't use EMUI/Sense/etc, the included launcher is the Pixel launcher. The only carrier-loaded software is the My Vodafone app, and I'm free to uninstall it.
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Posted 26 January 2018 - 03:17 PM

The amount of phone you get for your dollar right now is ridiculous.

I lost my iPhone 7 Plus in a car-related incident, so had to pick up something cheap to tide me over til my contract finishes.

I've ended up with a Nokia 3, $149 network-locked from Vodafone.

Cameras are "only" 8MP, but the front and back cameras are the same, and Nokia don't use EMUI/Sense/etc, the included launcher is the Pixel launcher. The only carrier-loaded software is the My Vodafone app, and I'm free to uninstall it.

 

Vodafone don't seem to totally fuck up their phones with a lot of crapware. Optus and Telstra, yes especially Telstra!

I'm waiting for the successor fo the Nokia 8.


Edited by Jeruselem, 26 January 2018 - 03:19 PM.

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Posted 26 January 2018 - 03:22 PM

Annoyingly a lot of them even change the startup logo animation, not that you see it more than once a month or whatever.

 

I don't see the point spending lots on a phone given that OS support often lasts barely 2 years.  Though on my 3rd Android phone now, with about 3 years + 2 years on the previous ones.



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Posted 26 January 2018 - 03:45 PM

Annoyingly a lot of them even change the startup logo animation, not that you see it more than once a month or whatever.

 

I don't see the point spending lots on a phone given that OS support often lasts barely 2 years.  Though on my 3rd Android phone now, with about 3 years + 2 years on the previous ones.

 

I'm still using my Nokia 830 and yes Microsoft still give me updates on Windows 10 mobile.


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Posted 26 January 2018 - 04:16 PM

I considered a Windoze phone but lack of apps/games vs Android plus the fact Metro looks like a turd turned me off.



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Posted 26 January 2018 - 05:46 PM

I now have 5 mates who all have various Xaiomi phones.

 

0 complaints


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