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#21 smadge1

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Posted 30 October 2017 - 08:28 AM

There has never been a law about having both hands on the steering wheel at all times, just like there's never been a law about wearing [appropriate] shoes while driving.

 

The reason that CB radios can still be used handheld, is that that technology was already in use when the laws were drafted, and they're used by professional drivers and police.


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Posted 30 October 2017 - 08:53 AM

as I understood it, it extends to CBs as well but its up to interpretation of the office in question.

 

Nope, the law explicitly says it does not.

 

as i quoted earlier

 

"These mobile phone rules do not apply to CB radios or any other two-way radios."

Straight from qld.gov.au themselves.

 

Also driving my manual car, performing handbrake starts, and adjusting my defog settings would be illegal if I had to keep both hands on the wheel.

Also yeah, the shoe thing is stupid; never been a law about shoes.


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Posted 30 October 2017 - 10:56 AM

At the end of the day, the law says you should be in control of your vehicle at all times.  The best way to do this is to reduce distractions to the minimal required to actually operate the vehicle, and not behave in a way that could cause you to lose control.  Sometimes this does mean losing those bad habits and picking up good ones.

 

One of my managers only has one arm, yet she's able to drive...


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Posted 30 October 2017 - 01:09 PM

and not behave in a way that could cause you to lose control.

 

Yeah but it's all just throwing shit at a wall and hoping it only sticks where you want it in the end, isn't it?

 

I mean, due to nothing but a freak mechanical failure (debead), I was thrown off a cliff at 55kph on a 70k road.

And if one of the 'Hoons' happened to take that same corner, and hung the tail end out, the situation would have been near literally impossible to take place.

OTHER events could have, for sure, but that whole "Driving with rules == safety" I'm now convinced is bullshit.

 

I mean, seriously, the amount of close calls and minor (not at fault) accidents I could have avoided if I'd just sped for 10 seconds to get away from an obvious problem driver are ridiculous.

No problem with speeding fines, pull me over, ask me if there was a valid safety reason to be getting away quickly, but cameras are emotionless and logic free, and the constant paranoia they cause are just dangerous.

 

My last minor speeding fine was with a Road-Train tailgating me while an obvious drunk driver is in the next lane.

Just stay there sport, you'll be fine, because this is safer than the 10 seconds of increased speed.


Edited by Master_Scythe, 30 October 2017 - 01:09 PM.

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Posted 01 November 2017 - 09:29 AM

it's illegal to rub your neck with the stereo remote.

 

I got pulled up for that


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Posted 01 November 2017 - 10:12 AM

A lot of the cops in this country tend to be idiots and most of them wind up on highway patrol.

 

I've been pulled over for the stupidest things but fortunately I have a number of good, sensible cop mates who intercede on my behalf - I've had a number of them fired as a result - they should probably never have been hired in the first place.

 

Many years back I ran a driving school in S.A. back when the cops conducted the driving tests, we had one officer who just never passed anybody. Eventually I'd had enough of it and invited him out back for a "chat". He didn't like that much and tried going violent on me.

 

Not a good idea around someone who is ex-Special Forces - I didn't hurt him much but he didn't hurt me at all - he never took another test ever again, left the force a few weeks later and not really to my surprise was killed in a car crash, single vehicle, put down to excess speed on a notorious piece of road.

 

Wankers - you get them in every profession...

 

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Posted 01 November 2017 - 11:35 AM

A lot of the cops people in this country tend to be idiots...


FTFY. Cops are just a subset of the whole, and the whole is pretty damned average. Funny that.

Now, if you'd said "assholes" (or "officious powertrippers" if you want to be slightly less offensive), I'd have left "cops" in place. For all the good guys who join to help the world be a better place, there's more who join to (or get very comfortable with) being in a position of authority.


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Posted 01 November 2017 - 11:41 AM

A 'chat'.


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Posted 01 November 2017 - 01:38 PM

A 'chat'.

YESSS... you never found the need to have one of those ?

 

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Posted 01 November 2017 - 04:05 PM

Just trying to get my head around the euphemisms - you had a 'chat', but he 'got violent'?
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Posted 01 November 2017 - 04:09 PM

A lot of the cops in this country tend to be idiots and most of them wind up on highway patrol.

 

I've been pulled over for the stupidest things but fortunately I have a number of good, sensible cop mates who intercede on my behalf - I've had a number of them fired as a result - they should probably never have been hired in the first place.

 

Many years back I ran a driving school in S.A. back when the cops conducted the driving tests, we had one officer who just never passed anybody. Eventually I'd had enough of it and invited him out back for a "chat". He didn't like that much and tried going violent on me.

 

Not a good idea around someone who is ex-Special Forces - I didn't hurt him much but he didn't hurt me at all - he never took another test ever again, left the force a few weeks later and not really to my surprise was killed in a car crash, single vehicle, put down to excess speed on a notorious piece of road.

 

Wankers - you get them in every profession...

 

Cheers

 

I get the impression a lot of cops are people who the army reject because they are mentally unstable.


Edited by Jeruselem, 01 November 2017 - 04:11 PM.

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Posted 01 November 2017 - 05:31 PM

 

A lot of the cops in this country tend to be idiots and most of them wind up on highway patrol.

 

I've been pulled over for the stupidest things but fortunately I have a number of good, sensible cop mates who intercede on my behalf - I've had a number of them fired as a result - they should probably never have been hired in the first place.

 

Many years back I ran a driving school in S.A. back when the cops conducted the driving tests, we had one officer who just never passed anybody. Eventually I'd had enough of it and invited him out back for a "chat". He didn't like that much and tried going violent on me.

 

Not a good idea around someone who is ex-Special Forces - I didn't hurt him much but he didn't hurt me at all - he never took another test ever again, left the force a few weeks later and not really to my surprise was killed in a car crash, single vehicle, put down to excess speed on a notorious piece of road.

 

Wankers - you get them in every profession...

 

Cheers

 

I get the impression a lot of cops are people who the army reject because they are mentally unstable.

 

Hmm,

 

 That may well be true, although I know a number of military nutters as well.

 

Yes Nich, I just wanted to for want of another way of putting it put him in his box - it was many years ago and I was much fitter then but when he started to pull his baton I guess I gave him the fright of his life by just taking it off him and tossing it away and then asking what next ?

 

I think he thought about his gun for a second or so, I could have taken that off him as well, but then I think he recalled I was president of the local pistol club which we had kicked him out of a year or so before because he was plain dangerous. He backed off and never came near me again.

 

I'm actually a very nice person but idiots in uniform trying to exert authority - gets me annoyed...

 

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#33 Rybags

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Posted 01 November 2017 - 10:57 PM

I get the impression a lot of cops are people who the army reject because they are mentally unstable.

Other way around, methinx.

 

In the modern day, a police job is a career and they expect a half decent education before you get in, the army not so much, pretty sure Year 9 will about get you there.

Psych stuff... in a sense the army wants a controllable killing machine, not so much with the cops.






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