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#1190879 The age old question, a PC for the relos...

Posted by Dasa on 17 April 2017 - 12:37 PM

use to use thunderbird but these days i just use gmail it seems much simpler and has less problems




#1190842 The age old question, a PC for the relos...

Posted by Dasa on 15 April 2017 - 01:59 PM

the single core performance of the Celeron J3455 is around that of the old athlon x2 which will make things load a little slower with a ssd than it would with the pentium but otherwise it should operate fine

its a fair bit quicker than the old e350 atom build i replace with a i3 nuc




#1190808 Parts Guide

Posted by Dasa on 14 April 2017 - 02:09 PM

added a new build

AMD Gamer Updated 14/04/2017
CPU Ryzen 5 1600 3.2-3.6GHz 6\12 Core\Thread $319
MB ASUS Prime X370 Pro $228
RAM 3000c15\3200c16 2x8 16GB $159
GPU RX480 8GB $339 -OR- GTX 1070 8GB $548 -OR- GTX1080 8GB $699 -OR- GTX 1080 Ti Founders Edition 11GB $999
SSD Crucial MX300 525GB $195
PSU XFX TS Series Gold 650W 5Y $129
CASE Deepcool Kendomen $63
HSF Noctua NH-D15 $115 Optional
TOTAL $1438-2213

 

updated it with faster ram as a option F4-3733C17D-16GTZA $243

the mb obviously cant handle 3733 but its one of the cheaper samsung b die kits available in au which oc well on amd systems and has a better chance of hitting 3200 stable than the corsair kit

for the extra $100 you could get a 8 core ryzen 1700 but for most current games the ram speed matters more than the extra cores

there has just been a bios released for ASUS Prime X370 Pro that seems to be helping with memory stability at higher speeds

 

performance wise amd 1600 trades blows with the 7600k

obviously the 7600k wins in any games without decent threading and the 1600 has a fair advantage in games that can make good use of more than 4 cores

 

edit

still looking at mb options its a bit of a minefield at the moment with no perfect option all have there gremlins still largely bios related

 

ASRock AB350 Pro 4 $129 cheap with decent features and some reports of select ram kits hitting 2933

Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming K4 $159 seems to have a small selection of 3000\3200 ram kits supported which is more than most in its price range

Gigabyte GA-AB350-Gaming 3 $159 has alc 1220 audio but its ram qvl list is all but nonexistent however there is a few reports of improved results with the latest bios




#1190663 need a new GPU for my 3570k help

Posted by Dasa on 10 April 2017 - 10:58 AM

450-550w would be plenty for a rx 480

650w for overclocked ryzen and 1080ti

that cm has a longer warranty and higher quality caps than the corsair

the cm vanguard also has about the highest efficiency around in the low wattage range

 

16g is ample for games but if your using it for other work loads its worth considering




#1189956 AMD Zen

Posted by Dasa on 16 March 2017 - 06:27 AM

https://www.techpowe...s-lineup-leaked

6803adc80a48.jpg

low clocks on the 1400\1500x is a shame but with some luck they will still hit 4ghz oc

looks like the 6 core cpu keeps the full 16m l3 cache but the 4 core disables the ccx leaving you with just 8m l3 which may also fix some of the latency related performance issues in games with ryzen




#1189826 Parts Guide

Posted by Dasa on 13 March 2017 - 07:13 PM

build updates were overdue

low Budget overclocker is gone for now hopefully amd can remedy this with there 4 core 8 thread cpu later in the year

updated the small build squeezing in as much power as i could hopefully its all ok and i havent overlooked compatibility problems (fair chance)

also added a budget ryzen workstation build

will do some more updates yet




#1189733 1080TI

Posted by Dasa on 10 March 2017 - 07:38 AM

reviews are out and as expected it edges out titan x while costing much less at $699us rrp same as the 1080 founders edition, $100 more than the gtx 1080 non reference at launch and $200 more than it is now

http://www.xtremesys...-1080Ti-Reviews

au prices are a bit of a rip off at $1200




#1189584 AMD Zen

Posted by Dasa on 07 March 2017 - 09:10 AM

truth is i dont think any of us will know for sure for some time yet

there is much work to be done before we will get a real look at how it performs in programs like games

 

edit

apparently he said bulldozer is crap in that review so i may have gone to far with my fanboy comments above




#1189578 AMD Zen

Posted by Dasa on 07 March 2017 - 08:15 AM

he has some good points but his very one eyed

completely side stepping the ipc of the cpu in programs that care about cache\memory performance

 

saying games are running 300fps at low res now sure some games others are under 60fps due to the cpu this will improve a bit as bios\windows updates come out

his example of rainbow six siege is one that i tested which is still gpu bootlicked even at low res cherry picked!

 

bf1 results amd vs 7700k being near max sure if the game can make use of over 8 threads otherwise ryzen may well be at its max already as well

also bf1 is known to be buggy with 100% cpu usage for some people and only ~40% for others with the same cpu

 

programing bottlneck no shit same can be said for every program in existence none are perfect some worse than others but if one cpu is powerful enough in some areas to make up for that and the other isnt...

 

indicating bulldozer was better as 4 years later the second revision is able to beat the 6 year old 2500k in some new games afer putting up with years of sub 60fps performance....

focusing on average percentages to hide the fps deficiency

 

and again showing ipc in synthetics that only care about cpu performance not the cache system performance he really is pushing his side sorry but he is full of shit

https://www.techpowe...ccx-compromises

aida64 may not be accurate for ryzen at this stage but there is memory performance problems there

 

 

on the final note true low res results are not a indication of future performance when improved multithreading is taken into account its only a indication of future performance for current games with a faster gpu or future games  that continue to use old engines

but they are a better indicator than high res results as at least you can still get a rough idea of how the cpu will scale with the extra cores

with high res results you can see nothing but the gpu's performance in many games

 

 

conclusion most amd fans will now admit bulldozer was a failure

somebody that is still trying to justify it... epic fanboy




#1189479 AMD Zen

Posted by Dasa on 03 March 2017 - 04:47 PM

high res results really dont matter
it still performs the same as a i5 7400 in anything with bad threading or 3770k-4790k in games with good threading just the gpu hides the difference vs faster cpu once the game becomes gpu bottlenecked


#1189447 AMD Zen

Posted by Dasa on 03 March 2017 - 09:42 AM

72c with Noctua NH-U12S SE-AM4 http://www.xtremesys...423#post5254423
3990%201700%20prime%20stable%202h%20temp
 
looks like smt is hurting game performance 8-15%
http://www.hardware....act-smt-ht.html
 
ipc performance with a few cpu at 4ghz
1800x
6900k
7700k
http://www.tweaktown...ady/index8.html


#1189243 AMD Zen

Posted by Dasa on 27 February 2017 - 09:00 AM

all mb should get bios updates in the future to improve there overclocking capability with ram but at this stage asrock seems to be the furthest behind with its mb only supporting up to 2666mhz while all msi\gb mb claim 3200 and asus only has the one mb capable of 3200 at this stage

http://www.xtremesys...yzen-and-memory

 

also there is this

AMD-Ryzen-Game-Boost-Overclocking-Freque

Intel-HEDT-Processor-Game-Boost-OverclocIntel-Mainstream-Game-Boost-Overclocking




#1189096 New Build - Help needed please.

Posted by Dasa on 23 February 2017 - 07:48 PM

i3 nuc are good for playback and general use

the larger models only have room for a single 2.5" drive and a m.2 ssd

http://nucblog.net/2...i3bnh-overview/




#1189046 AMD Zen

Posted by Dasa on 23 February 2017 - 05:44 AM

its official

ipc 52% improvement over excavator

fair few links here

http://www.xtremesys...date-Benchmarks

preorders now live in the us for march 2 release date 3rd in au

Ryzen 7 1800X 8 16 3.6 GHz 4.0 GHz Yes 95W $499us $699au

Ryzen 7 1700X 3.4 GHz 3.8 GHz Yes 95W $399us $569au

Ryzen 7 1700 3.0 GHz 3.7 GHz No 65W $329us $469au

 

image sorce

http://techreport.co...he-ryzen-charge

perf1-wm.jpg

perf2-wm.jpg

 

apparently it hit 5.2ghz at 1.85v on ln2 -200c and claimed the wr for cinbench on a 8 core 16 thread cpu beating the 5960x at 6ghz




#1188523 Pondering a workstation build to process astro images + occassionally play games

Posted by Dasa on 09 February 2017 - 10:26 PM

 

i wouldnt bother with aio there expensive more prone to failure and loud for the level of performance they provide


Can you point me to some failure rate info?

The main reason I haven't looked at this myself is because if liquid cooling fails it can do more damage.

As for noise & performance, from what I've read it's only the very top end air solutions that stack up and, as I've experienced, they are very dependent on mobo layout.

 

no failure rate info other than seeing a number of reports on forums of dead pumps and leaks
corsair has a good 5 year warranty on many of its aio which may also cover damaged parts
but i have never seen a hsf die just fans which aio use too and it usually takes a long time for cheap sleeve bearing fans let alone high quality ball bearing fans to die
 
there is some half decent cheaper hsf like cryorig h7 that fit just about anything a aio will the performance may fall a little behind but there still in front on noise
 
big hsf like nh-d15 can block the first pci-e slot on some mb although the nh-d15s gets around this and if you combine tall ram sinks with side panels close to the hsf hight limit you may have to forgo the second fan
 
 

g__day any idea what i need to do different to get comparable results with all cores in use with DeepSkyStacker?