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Dasa

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#1197029 Pondering morph a HP Z620 workstation into a work / gaming rig

Posted by Dasa on 19 October 2017 - 09:59 AM

aio are still typically louder than custom due to the small rads with dense fins

although they do well in cases with crap airflow

 

big hsf like nh-d15 still hit the best balance for those wanting low noise decent performance for overclocking and reliability

provided the case has some airflow

 

MD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X 16-Core Socket TR4 3.4GHz Unlocked CPU Processor $1345 umart
Asus Prime X399-A AMD Ryzen Threadripp​er Socket TR4 $479.2 <futu online 20% off or just asrock x399 $499 umart and get them to build it

i dont know that i would recommend umart from personal experience but there cheap and those that deal with them in store instead of online seem happy enough

unfortunately they dont stock Noctua NH-U14S CPU Cooler (TR4/SP3 Edition) $115 yet but they do sell noctua products so maybe they could get them if asked

 

skycomp is in syd and has been good to me thus far when purchasing online

there is a good list of stores here with user ratings for them

https://whirlpool.ne...Shops#auspc_nsw




#1196973 New Rig help please Budget $2000

Posted by Dasa on 17 October 2017 - 10:10 AM

civ6 seems to benefit from the extra cores\threads on amd cpu as the 1700 is faster than the 1600 when in most games the 1600 is faster due to its clock speed advantage

https://www.techspot...8400/page3.html

but the intel cpu dont seem to be benefiting with the 7700k and 8700k performing similar

 

ryzen also seems to be performing better when paired with vega than the 1080ti so perhaps the amd drivers are somehow better optimized for multi threading now




#1196970 New Rig help please Budget $2000

Posted by Dasa on 17 October 2017 - 09:42 AM

very true the i5 8400 can be ~30% quicker than the 1600 in cpu bound games that use 6 threads or less




#1196961 New Rig help please Budget $2000

Posted by Dasa on 16 October 2017 - 08:52 PM

for gaming i wouldn't both with the 8 core the extras don't really help games yet

go with the 1600x its cheaper and a fraction faster in todays games thanks to the higher clock speed

 

for mb i like this one having alc1120 audio it seems like decent value

Gigabyte AB350-GAMING 3 $155

 

2x8g ram

if you dont want to oc at all then 2400 is the go but if xmp 3200 proved stable it would provide a nice boost to cpu performance




#1196546 paste: always better than air?

Posted by Dasa on 29 September 2017 - 08:19 PM

whatever you do stick a temp probe on the back of the pcb for some b4 and after temps




#1196007 AMD RX Vega announcement.

Posted by Dasa on 12 September 2017 - 08:46 AM

must say im kinda envious i haven't had a amd system since opteron 170 with bh-5 & x1900xtx cf
hurry up and bench it :)


#1195551 Gaming PC - Upgrade Advice, Thanks in advance!

Posted by Dasa on 02 September 2017 - 07:55 AM

1080ti 11g ~$1000-1200 is the only way to get 4k smooth and even it will drop to 40fps in some games when detail settings are maxed it does have a bit of room for overclocking though

so that's your budget blown on gpu alone

 

your cpu will probably handle ~60fps ok in those games if you oc it but being a dual core it will probably stutter at times so not exactly the smooth experience your after

 

you may want more than 8g ram to prevent any loading stutters but if you keep the os really trim you may get away with it

i dont know that its worth buying more ddr3 ram when your wanting to replace the cpu maybe its almost time to spend $130 on the mb and move to ddr4 unless you can find something cheap secondhand

ram speed can have a fair effect on cpu performance ~10-20% in cpu limited sections of games with ddr3 20-30% with ddr4

for ddr3 2133c9 is faster than 2400c11 and 2400c10 was about as good as it got

but if you pick up a 4770\4790 for your system you will probably be gpu bound at 4k anyway so wont see a noticeable difference from ram speed or cpu overclocking although it may boos min fps in a few parts of the games

 

1060 6g-1070 or rx570-580 for 1080p

1070-1080 or vega 56-64 for 1440p

https://www.techspot...-pc-benchmarks/

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https://www.techspot...a-64/page9.html

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#1195476 Too Many Damn Lakes! Intel's coming CPU's

Posted by Dasa on 30 August 2017 - 12:55 PM

so slower than the 7700k in single threaded

it will be interesting to see how it overclocks and handles high memory speeds




#1195238 Tight fisted VR upgrade suggestions

Posted by Dasa on 23 August 2017 - 09:07 AM

i believe a gpu upgrade will get you there

drop your res right down and see what fps you get as this should reduce\remove the gpu limitation and pass it to the cpu so if your fps are fine at a low res (90+) they should be good at higher res once you get a new gpu

if you just want a little more try oc your ram even 1866 with tightened timings could boost cpu performance by around 5% with a little luck

you can find info on ram stability testing here http://www.overclock...tability-thread

best to start with booting into linux to run gsat so you don't corrupt your os if that passes move on to hci

 

i just picked up a osvr hdk2 headset and found the image quality is unplayable although it may be ok in anim games with not texture detail how are you finding yours? from what i have read there isn't much difference between them image quality wise




#1195054 Parts Guide

Posted by Dasa on 18 August 2017 - 02:42 PM

ok made some updates

 

Intel Low Budget Gamer G4560 Review | Updated 18/08/2017
CPU Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual Core HT  $79
MB ASRock H110M-HDV  $75 
RAM 1x8G 2133  $89  cpu will take a performance hit till second stick is added -OR- CMK16GX4M2A2133C13  $185 
GPU GTX1050 Ti 4GB  $199  -OR- GTX 1060 3GB  $295  -OR- RX 570 4GB  $349 
HDD 1TB 7200rpm  $64  -OR- Crucial MX300 275GB $135
CASE\PSU Antec ESK3450B-U3-P with 450W $74
TOTAL $381-IGP (ok for a start but for gaming get a gpu quick) $580-897
 
AMD Low Budget Gamer Ryzen 3 Review Updated 18/08/2017
CPU AMD Ryzen 3 1200 $149
MB  Asrock AB350M-HDV $99 -OR- ASRock AB350M Pro4 $119
RAM 1x8 2400c14 $100 -OR-  16G (2x8) 3000 $189
GPU GTX 1060 3g $295 -OR- RX 570 4GB $349 -OR- GTX1060 6GB $389
SSD Crucial MX300 275\525GB $135\215
PSU Corsair CX450 Bronze 5y $75
CASE Deepcool Smarter $37
TOTAL $890-$1173
 
AMD Gamer Ryzen 5 Review Updated 18/08/2017
CPU Ryzen 5 1600 3.2-3.6GHz 6C\12T $289 -OR- AMD Ryzen 7 1700 3-3.7GHz 8C16T $425
MB ASRock AB350M Pro4 $119 -OR- Gigabyte GA-AB350-Gaming 3  $169
RAM 16G (2x8) 3000 $189 -OR- F4-3200C14D-16GFX $285
GPU GTX 1060 3g $295 -OR- RX 570 4GB $349 -OR- GTX1060 6GB $389 -OR- GTX 1070 8GB $579 -OR- GTX1080 8GB $699 -OR- EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti iCX $965
SSD Crucial MX300 525GB\1TB $215\$389 -OR- Samsung 960 EVO 500GB M.2 NVMe $329
PSU Antec TPC-550 5Y $99 -OR- Corsair TX650M Gold 7Y $139
CASE Deepcool Kendomen $65 -OR- SilverStone Kublai KL07B $99
HSF Be Quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3 AM4 Edition $109 Optional <stock hsf is fine for a mild oc
TOTAL $1271-2580
Added ryzen 7 as a option which obviously helps when rendering but for current games your better of putting cash towards the gpu unless your just looking for something to tide you over till next gen
 
Intel Gamer Updated 18/08/2017
CPU i5-7600K 3.8-4.2Ghz Quad Core $320 -OR- i7 7700K 4.2-4.5GHz Quad Core HT $459
MB  ASRock Z270 Pro4 $159 -OR- ASUS Prime Z270-AR CF\SLI $235
RAM 3000c15\3200c16 2x8 16GB $200 -OR-  F4-3733C17D-16GTZA $339
GPU GTX1060 6GB $389 -OR- GTX 1070 8GB $578 -OR- GTX1080 8GB $699 -OR- EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti iCX $965
SSD ISamsung 960 EVO 500GB\1TB M.2 NVMe $329\$598
PSU Corsair RM550X Gold 10y $155 -OR- EVGA SuperNOVA 750W G2 -CF\SLi 10y $149
CASE Silverstone Raven RV05 $117
HSF Noctua NH-D14 $99 < tall ram my prevent install of second fan NH-D15S may also fit touching the side panel with middle fan
TOTAL $1379-igp $1768-$2862




#1194782 AMD Zen

Posted by Dasa on 11 August 2017 - 02:09 AM

there sure trying some interesting things

http://www.tweaktown...iew/index4.html

8303_09_amd-ryzen-threadripper-1950x-192

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#1194724 Parts Guide

Posted by Dasa on 09 August 2017 - 01:59 PM

The Corsair M.2 offerings are just shy of the Samsung's performance but cheaper with smaller sizes. I'n my opinion... you're only running M.2 for the OS anyhow right?

 

looks like corsair cost a lot more than samsung

 

Transcend TS240GSSD220S 240G SATA III $106

Crucial MX300 275GB $135

Intel 600p Series 256GB M.2 $157

525Gb Crucial MX300 SATA $215

Samsung 250GB 960 EVO NVMe M.2  $185

Corsair Force Series MP500 240GB NVMe M.2 $249

Intel 600p Series 512GB M.2 $278

Samsung 960 EVO 500GB M.2 NVMe $322

Corsair MP500 480GB NVMe M.2 $359-550

Crucial MX300 1TB SATA $389

Intel 600P Series 1TB $449

 

i like to run a ssd for os\games so ~500g is a minimum for that




#1194706 Parts Guide

Posted by Dasa on 09 August 2017 - 09:41 AM

should probably add samsung 960 evo 500g as a option at $320

only left it out as i was originally thinking the build was more value orientated

 

1600x is ~10% faster for somebody that doesnt want to oc but for somebody that does oc the difference is very small

for some both reach 4ghz for others the 1600x hits 4.1ghz

i should probably mention that the stock cooler is good enough to oc the 1600 and the hsf is just to squeeze a little more at a lower noise level

 

if anything i should probably remove the X370 mb from the build as they don't seem to be worth the extra over b350

 

corsairs new tx psu look like good value to with 7y warranty

 

au $ has gained strength lately but all prices have gone up regardless :(




#1193870 AMD Zen

Posted by Dasa on 31 July 2017 - 09:56 AM

http://translate.goo...lnpGU6cooITaytQ

they overclocked the 1200\1300 to ~4ghz but for the tests they ran the 1200 in a a320 mb with 3200 ram rather than have two identical cpu

looks like it needs to be overclocked to be competitive with the i3 and the i5 7400 

sure its a bit slower than the i3 in single threaded and the i5 in multithreaded games but faster than the i5 in single

the fact that the 1200 is competitive with both over wider work loads makes it a great value option for overclockers imo




#1190879 The age old question, a PC for the relos...

Posted by Dasa on 17 April 2017 - 12:37 PM

use to use thunderbird but these days i just use gmail it seems much simpler and has less problems