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#1201593 AMD Zen

Posted by SceptreCore on 19 April 2018 - 07:39 PM

AMD= Team Red?  Nvidia= Green   Intel= Blue    :)  


Keep reading on how 1.5v was used to overclock the 2700x... Ive been running at ~1.4v for 4ghz and didnt want to go much over that.  I thought the recommendation was 1.45v for max with custom loop...  I might bump it up some more... 

I'm thinking of the good old days when AMD logos and colours were Green!

Also... official reviews should be out soon guys. Maybe even tonight?

#1201527 AMD RX Vega announcement.

Posted by SceptreCore on 15 April 2018 - 06:50 PM

Think of it as the Radeon RX 580 / 480 replacement. It will be small, and is likely to perform as well as the Vega 14nm that shipped last year. In the Nvidia performance world Navi should perform close to Geforce GTX 1080 which is quite good for the mainstream part but probably on part of the mainstream part planned after the high end part.


Fudzilla has already reported that Vega 7nm is not a Gaming GPU. This might cause some confusion as there are two different abbreviations floating around. GPU as in General Purpose Unit, or GPU as a graphics processing unit. What we meant by saying Vega 7nm is not a GPU, we want to make crystal clear that Vega 7nm will not be a gaming part.


Navi 7nm won’t have two different SKUs, one that miraculously goes after the Geforce Turing edition planned for later this year. So, the long story short, AMD won’t have anything in the high-end space faster than Vega between now and end of 2019. In GPU world this is eternity. This is the product where Radeon Technology Group really spent some time to go after this highly competitive and profitable mainstream / performance market. Of course, AMD did sell every single RX 580 / 570 cards as well as every single Vega 56 and 64 manufactured to miners, as these guys were buying anything to get their hands on it, but with the current situation on the market, one can only hope that there will be a mining demand in mid 2019. 


Radeon RX 580 / 570 definitely needs an update as this Polaris based architecture was simply a slight improvement over the Radeon RX 480 generation based on GCN 4 and Polaris core. The new Navi 7nm mainstream chip would bring much needed advanced to stay competitive and add some Ray Tracing acceleration elements in the chip too.


The earliest we would expect a Navi successor, a real high end chip, would be at some point in 2020. This is great news for Jeff Fishers team, the head of all Geforce gaming stuff at Nvidia but a sad day for the competition.


Our biggest fear is that Jensen will push the prices of already ridiculous overpriced high-end GPU even further. The David Wang / Mike Rayfield combo is definitely working hard to make  adjustments to the roadmaps, but these things take years.


Let’s hope it will not be too late. - Fudzilla



I'm not too sure how much credence I give this. Navi is rumoured to be AMD's MCM approach to GPU's... so.. it'd be hard to say where it could end up 

#1200573 AMD Zen

Posted by SceptreCore on 10 March 2018 - 08:02 PM

If the 2700x does come with boost of 4.35ghz, that would really interesting as that would be a nice performance increase.  If you can OC even a bit higher over that or get all cores to 4.35 without crazy temps, Id be tempted to pick one up.  Really hope they get the memory clocks up too.  Im running 2933 since 3200 just is not stable even after bios updates.  

Just let old Sceptre know what you'd take to part with the old 1700x 

#1200518 AMD Zen

Posted by SceptreCore on 08 March 2018 - 03:25 PM

AMD Ryzen 2000-series lineup leaks ahead of April debut


"AMD at CES in January shared a handful of details regarding its second generation Ryzen CPUs. The chips, built on the 12nm Zen+ architecture, were said to feature higher clock speeds and a pair of new boost technologies – Precision Boost 2 and XFR 2.

Now, we’ve got some additional details to build on courtesy of Spanish website El Chapuzas Informatico (via VideoCardz).


In a series of leaked slideshows, we see that AMD’s lineup consists of six Ryzen 2000-series SKUs. At the low end is the $99 Ryzen 3 2200G, a four-core / four-thread component with a base clock of 3.5GHz, a turbo clock of 3.7GHz and a 65W TDP.


The next step up is the Ryzen 5 2400G. At four cores and eight threads, the chip features a base clock of 3.6GHz that can boost up to 3.9GHz when needed. Expect to pay around $169 for this 65W TDP part.



The Ryzen 5 2600, meanwhile, is a six-core / 12-thread chip with a TDP of 65W, a base clock speed of 3.3GHz and a turbo clock speed of 3.9GHz. It’ll retail for approximately $199.


AMD’s Ryzen 5 2600X is also a six-core / 12-thread processor albeit with a faster base clock of 3.6GHz and a zippy turbo clock of 4.25GHz. It’ll consume a bit more juice as well as evident by its 95W TDP and of course, you’ll a little more for that extra power - $249, according to the slide.


At the upper-end of the lineup is the Ryzen 7 2700 and 2700X. Both chips sport eight cores / 16 threads with the non-X version boasting a base clock of 3.2GHz, a boost clock of 4.1GHz, a TDP of 65W and a price tag of $299. The speedier 2700X will feature a base clock of 3.7GHz, a turbo clock of 4.35GHz and a 105W TDP. Expect to pay $369 for the opportunity.


The chips will run in new 400-series motherboards although as noted on one of the slides, optimized BIOS updates are coming from motherboard manufacturers sometime this month.


As always, it’s important to remember that expectations should be kept in check when dealing with leaks of this nature. Such is especially the case here as some of the slides mention an embargo date of March 15, 2017, but also contain pricing information from “January 2018.” This could easily be human error but it is worth pointing out. Either way, we should find out soon enough as the April 2018 launch window looms."


If this slide is to be believed... then AMD has listened to the criticism about the 1800X, about it being totally superfluous and only as good as the 1700X  or even 1700 once overclocked at a far more exorbitant price. So I was hoping that was a mve they would make... and hopefully this is so. 


EDIT: Could be fake. Check out the embargo lift date in the bottom left corner. ^

#1200468 Woo! Star trek Discovery! (spoilers, probably)

Posted by SceptreCore on 06 March 2018 - 06:02 PM

As I would consider myself a huge trekkie... I'm sorry to say, I do not like ST:D ...  :D


Stopped watching after episode 5 (There's no swearing in my Trek!!!).Too much of the glitzy silliness of the awful JJ trek, and rewriting of lore that's already well established. The reason there has been nothing beyond the timelines of the ST:DS9 and ST:VOY shows are because the new guys in charge are not Star Trek fans themselves... and this is on purpose because they - CBS - want to make the show appealing to a wider viewer audience and will bastardize it any way they see fit to do that, I understand that from a money making point of view... but it pains me to see.


Just my opinion...

#1199933 Poverty PC 'upgrade'

Posted by SceptreCore on 15 February 2018 - 02:07 PM

I've got an old 8gb set lying about the place somewhere if you're that set on it. But I'd follow the sound recommendations thus far presented.

#1199782 AMD Zen

Posted by SceptreCore on 08 February 2018 - 07:18 PM

AMD Ryzen With Vega Graphics Reviewer Kits Leak Out!



#1199299 AMD Zen

Posted by SceptreCore on 19 January 2018 - 10:57 PM



Ryzen 5 2600 spotted in the wild

#1199219 Intel's Spectre BIOS Fix Causes Crashes On Broadwell, Haswell Systems

Posted by SceptreCore on 17 January 2018 - 09:26 PM

Intel has issued a statement confirming that BIOS patches for the Spectre vulnerability are causing crashes on Broadwell and Haswell systems.


The company wants us to know that it’s sticking to its recent commitment to put security first by confirming that it’s investigating an issue with the CPU microcode updates it issued to its hardware partners. These updates are being distributed to users’ systems as BIOS updates, which are just beginning to roll out.


Intel said that customers have reported “higher system reboots” (crashes) after applying BIOS updates. So far, the issue only affects Broadwell (Core i3/5/7 5000 series on for mobile) and Haswell(Core i3/5/7 4000 series for desktop and mobile). Intel didn’t specifically say if Broadwell-E (Core i7 6000 series on desktop) are also affected. The issues have been reported in both data centers and regular user systems.


We are working quickly with these customers to understand, diagnose and address this reboot issue. If this requires a revised firmware update from Intel, we will distribute that update through the normal channels.  We are also working directly with data center customers to discuss the issue.


Intel doesn’t recommend you ignore the BIOS updates from your system OEM, but you might want to wait for this to unfold if you’re using one of the affected CPUs. The BIOS fixes are used in conjunction with software fixes to mitigate Spectre Variant 2. If you have auto-updating turned on in your OS, then most likely you have already received the software side of the fix.



#1199188 Trinity International Computer systems

Posted by SceptreCore on 16 January 2018 - 11:27 AM


Do you write for Atomic PC Authority?

Sorry for late reply. Don't come here as often as I used to.


Yes. Have been freelancing for PCTA for a bit over a year now. :)


Good for you mate.. that's awesome

#1199090 AMD Zen

Posted by SceptreCore on 11 January 2018 - 08:16 PM

I guess it's to keep power consumption per core down.

Yeah... well it has to fit in that 15W envelope. But they can ramp single core performance right up. Unfortunately these aren't the 12nm refresh so they won't be able to turbo as high or competitively. 

#1198091 AMD Zen

Posted by SceptreCore on 29 November 2017 - 03:55 PM

AMD Raven Ridge APU Support Arrives For Existing AM4 Motherboards Via BIOS Updates


That's cool. It will be interesting to see their performance in the desktop power envelope.

#1198037 AMD Zen

Posted by SceptreCore on 26 November 2017 - 06:53 PM

AMD Ryzen Mobile Benchmarks And Performance: Taking On Intel In Laptops







We noted that the Acer Swift 3 with a Core i7-8250U 8th Gen CPU and GeForce MX150 pulled about 9 Watts at idle and 13 - 16 Watts under the light duty load of our HD video loop test. The HP Envy x360 15z with Ryzen 5 Mobile pulled about the same 9 Watts at idle and with similar panel brightness, but under the load of video playback with VLC, pulled 20 Watts with peaks to 30 Watts in spots. We also quickly tested CPU utilization whether running VLC or the Windows 10 video player, and saw Ryzen 5 2500U CPU utilization oscillated at a low 4 - 12 percent. So, it appears at least with respect to VLC and video playback, that Ryzen Mobile with Vega 8 graphics is more power-hungry or perhaps has a bit more driver maturity to undergo to be fully optimized. EXCERPT: We're down to two variables that could be affecting power draw -- beyond just AMD Ryzen Mobile and its Vega GPU with respect to HD video playback -- driver optimization for Ryzen Mobile or the system's 7200 RPM hard drive.


Update, 11/24/2017 - 9:33AM


HP pushed a Radeon graphics driver update to the Envy x360 15z so we re-ran our HD video rundown test. The machine picked up 19 minutes of up-time as a result, so we've updated the graph above to reflect this time. 


HP Envy x360 15z With Ryzen Mobile Performance And Final Thoughts


Fitting for the forthcoming Thanksgiving holiday here in the US, we've got a lot to digest with our first look at AMD Ryzen Mobile platform. So, let's break down the main course and various side dishes. First, the AMD Ryzen 5 2500U quad-core mobile processor we tested generally offered competitive performance to Intel's latest 8th Gen quad-core Kaby Lake-R offering in various, highly-refined and optimized machines like the Dell XPS 13 and the HP Spectre x360. Presumably, a Ryzen 7 2700U would look even better in a similar match-up, with a bit more top-end clock speed.

Looking at Ryzen Mobile's graphics prowess, as we hoped, the platform offers significantly better performance with its Vega 8 IGP in comparison to Intel's latest UHD 620 IGP in the 8th Gen Core series line-up. In some tests it offered 60 - 70 percent faster frame rates and was able to make unplayable titles playable at 1080p. Granted our short window for testing was mostly relegated to some light-duty, legacy game titles, but as an aside, we also quickly tested current gen games like Middle Earth: Shadow of War. Here we saw playable frame rates at 1080p with Low to Medium image quality settings. 


The early indicators for AMD's Ryzen Mobile platform are strong, both on the CPU and GPU side of the equation. With respect to battery life, however, the picture for us is still pretty murky and we're going to reserve judgement for now. Frankly, we don't feel like the HP machine we picked up at retail is a very compelling solution overall. Though it's priced right at $729, its dim display and pokey hard drive left a lot to be desired and ultimately hampered our testing from getting a clean A/B comparison in certain spots. With Ryzen Mobile in a more premium configuration, with a higher quality more power-efficient display and fast SSD, our view of its performance profile could have been significantly different.

In fact, AMD may be in a peculiar spot with Ryzen Mobile. The delineation line may be drawn for some users between making the jump from integrated graphics, to whether or not discrete graphics solutions, like NVIDIA's GeForce MX150, might be available in a given model of machine. As we showed, a GeForce MX150 puts up next level performance over Ryzen 5 2500U's Vega 8 IGP at least, though the question still remains how a Ryzen 7 2700U would compare with 2 more Radeon CUs and a touch more clock speed at its disposal. 

Ultimately, it will come down to what AMD's OEM partners like HP, Lenovo, Acer, and Dell can pull together for laptop designs with Ryzen Mobile. It would seem the product lends itself very well to premium configurations, if battery life can be managed in thin and light designs. Either way you slice it, our early view of Ryzen Mobile is encouraging with some real bright spots, coupled with a bit of uncertainty as well. We'll just have to see what comes to market from the major players in the months ahead. What's very clear, however, is that AMD is back on competitive footing again with Intel in mobile processors as well, with Ryzen and Vega delivering a solid 1-2 punch.



I think that's a pretty good result all told. I look forward to seeing 2700U benches.

#1197970 AMD Zen

Posted by SceptreCore on 23 November 2017 - 01:00 AM

Asus Strix doubles down on AMD with first eight-core Ryzen laptop


HPE's AMD EPYC-Powered VM Server Breaks Benchmark Records:


According to HPE, the benchmarks were attained using AMD EPYC model 7601 on ProLiant DL385 Gen10 systems, which are available with up to 64-cores, 4 TB memory and 128 lanes of PCIe connectivity. For the SPECrate 2017_fp_base benchmark the HPE/AMD combo scored 257, and for the SPECfp_rate2006 the score was 1980. Both were the highest ever two socket system scores for their respective benchmarks.


#1197940 Too Many Damn Lakes! Intel's coming CPU's

Posted by SceptreCore on 21 November 2017 - 11:21 PM

The Price of Intel Corporation’s 10-Nanometer Failure


Intel is now claiming it will "introduce" its first 10nm products by the end of 2017, with serious volumes coming in 2018. Credible leaks have revealed that Intel is targeting availability more in the middle of 2018.


A delay in the mass-production start from the end of 2015 to the end of 2017 is a delay of two years, or roughly a full generation, at least back when an Intel generation was defined as roughly two years.


As if it couldn't get any worse, by Intel's own admission, its first- and second-generation 10nm technologies -- 10nm and 10nm+, respectively -- will offer worse performance than its upcoming 14nm++ technology . Intel says the company's 10nm technology won't open up a clear performance lead over its 14nm++ technology until its third iteration -- known as 10nm++ -- which should go into production sometime in 2020.


Interesting article. I can't seem to get my head around it as Intel are unstoppable, or at least appear to be. Even... how the hell how does a smaller process not increase performance?


Seems like this might be enough of a struggle for them for AMD to catch up and we can have a bit more balance in the market place.


Writer of the article has shares in Intel, so it's not a bash piece.