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Should I upgrade my cooling?
ameel
post Dec 21 2011, 09:39 AM
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I have an Asus P8Z68-V le, an i7 2600k.

My current cooling is a Thermaltake Frio. Temps on stock clock don't look too good D:

what sort of temp range should I be looking at for this sort of rig? I've never had any good experience with cooling so far. My previous amd system had a 3R Ice Age, but that wasn't great either with temps...
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GhostFaceKilla
post Dec 21 2011, 09:44 AM
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It would be helpfull if you provided the following info:

1. What ARE the temps you currently have??????


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aliali
post Dec 21 2011, 10:29 AM
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QUOTE (GhostFaceKilla @ Dec 21 2011, 10:44 AM) *
It would be helpfull if you provided the following info:

1. What ARE the temps you currently have??????

Yep and what fans you have in the case and their orientation (which way they move air).


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drawesome
post Dec 21 2011, 10:40 AM
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i7 2600k + Hyper 212+ Cooling = 29-34*c idle and 53-58*c load


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ameel
post Dec 21 2011, 11:34 AM
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All cores running at 34-38 at the moment. I got nothing on. Core speed is down to 1600mhz with core voltage between 1.006 to 1.058.

With prime95 running, temps are: 58-61
core speed is at 4200mhz , with voltage between 1.296 - 1.304


In terms of airflow:

2xFans suck air into the case from the front
1xbig fan pushes out the case at the top
1xfan pushes air out of the case at the back - lined with cpu fan
1xfan sucks air from the front of the case into the cpu cooler fins
1xfan sucks air out of cpu cooler fins towards back of the case
1xhole in side panel (i removed the fan from there no space)
psu located at bottom of case and blowing air upwards

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bowiee
post Dec 21 2011, 11:37 AM
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Nothing unusual in those temps.
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ameel
post Dec 21 2011, 11:38 AM
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QUOTE (bowiee @ Dec 21 2011, 12:37 PM) *
Nothing unusual in those temps.


but its a thermaltake frio? isn't that supposedly one of the better air cooling devices?
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bowiee
post Dec 21 2011, 11:41 AM
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I am saying the temps are not high, and are in fact quite acceptable. So no you do not need to upgrade your cooling.
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ameel
post Dec 21 2011, 11:46 AM
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QUOTE (bowiee @ Dec 21 2011, 12:41 PM) *
I am saying the temps are not high, and are in fact quite acceptable. So no you do not need to upgrade your cooling.


Ahh right. Thanks for that. In terms of overclocking though, does that leave me with much scope to work with or am i limited?
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bowiee
post Dec 21 2011, 11:58 AM
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There is plenty of room for over clocking from what I can see.
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NukeJockey
post Dec 21 2011, 12:12 PM
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Yeah its not too bad, I wouldn't want to run one of those chips over 70-80c under load though.

Depending on your board and chip, you may be able to get 4-4.5ghz at a relatively low voltage which in turn means very little heat increase.


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ameel
post Dec 21 2011, 12:23 PM
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Alright. Thanks for that. I'm gonna give OC a few more tries.

I was just a bit disappointed with the temperature readings. was hoping to get below 30 on idle and below 50 on load :(
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drawesome
post Dec 21 2011, 12:47 PM
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These do run a little hotter but have lots of headroom, hence the average's are a little over what your used to but thats the norm for Most people.
Day 1- (Without the De-Clocking Steppings) I got 4.5ghtz without trying as a stable 24/7 clock, temps were 38*-45*c idle and 58*-72*c load (video encoding)
Day 2- Enabling the 1.6ghtz Idle stepping and took the 4.5ghtz to 4.7ghtz and then needed voltage, got my i7 2600k up to 4.99ghtz in the end annoying enough to not hit 5ghtz but oh well.

Factor in motherboard quality, psu, cooling/making sure everything is seated correctly and you should be in for a decent experience :)

Stock Cooling info... for the lulz (@ 3.5ghtz, no 1.6ghtz speedstep)
40-50*c Idle and 60-70*c = Average Temp gaming,.. 83*c = after a few mins of heavy Load Video encoding.


This post has been edited by drawesome: Dec 21 2011, 12:50 PM


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ameel
post Dec 21 2011, 12:58 PM
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QUOTE (drawesome @ Dec 21 2011, 01:47 PM) *
These do run a little hotter but have lots of headroom, hence the average's are a little over what your used to but thats the norm for Most people.
Day 1- (Without the De-Clocking Steppings) I got 4.5ghtz without trying as a stable 24/7 clock, temps were 38*-45*c idle and 58*-72*c load (video encoding)
Day 2- Enabling the 1.6ghtz Idle stepping and took the 4.5ghtz to 4.7ghtz and then needed voltage, got my i7 2600k up to 4.99ghtz in the end annoying enough to not hit 5ghtz but oh well.

Factor in motherboard quality, psu, cooling/making sure everything is seated correctly and you should be in for a decent experience :)

Stock Cooling info... for the lulz (@ 3.5ghtz, no 1.6ghtz speedstep)
40-50*c Idle and 60-70*c = Average Temp gaming,.. 83*c = after a few mins of heavy Load Video encoding.


Ahh. awesome i see. i should try to crank up the cpu fans to high speed instead of low. that should probably cool it down more as well (but it gets pretty loud). I managed to get 5Ghz previously. I jumped voltage to 1.45 i think (didn't bother incrementing). tested with prime over 24hours. worked just fine but bsod randomly after a while (when prime's not on). so i took it down a notch to auto-volt and 4.2 as it is atm. Im suspecting the bsod might not necessarily be the cpu. heard there were issues with sandforce ssds. will look into firmware update tonight.

thanks for the stock cooling info as well! it's a bit comforting
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post Dec 21 2011, 01:52 PM
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QUOTE (ameel @ Dec 21 2011, 01:23 PM) *
Alright. Thanks for that. I'm gonna give OC a few more tries.

I was just a bit disappointed with the temperature readings. was hoping to get below 30 on idle and below 50 on load :(

you would need a rather cold room and some high speed fans or watercooling to manage those temps


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ameel
post Dec 21 2011, 02:13 PM
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QUOTE (Dasa @ Dec 21 2011, 01:52 PM) *
QUOTE (ameel @ Dec 21 2011, 01:23 PM) *
Alright. Thanks for that. I'm gonna give OC a few more tries.

I was just a bit disappointed with the temperature readings. was hoping to get below 30 on idle and below 50 on load :(

you would need a rather cold room and some high speed fans or watercooling to manage those temps


Yeah not looking into watercooling at the moment. My Thermaltake frio has an adjustable fan. right now its on slowest mode. it gets too loud if i crank it up, but i'll try for the sake of testing later tonight.
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aliali
post Dec 21 2011, 04:22 PM
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QUOTE (Dasa @ Dec 21 2011, 02:52 PM) *
QUOTE (ameel @ Dec 21 2011, 01:23 PM) *
Alright. Thanks for that. I'm gonna give OC a few more tries.

I was just a bit disappointed with the temperature readings. was hoping to get below 30 on idle and below 50 on load :(

you would need a rather cold room and some high speed fans or watercooling to manage those temps

Yep you can never cool below ambient unless you want to fit a refrigeration type cooler, or something running a total loss nitrogen or dry ice system :P
In reality 10 to 20 degrees above ambient is probably as good as you will get on air.


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ameel
post Dec 21 2011, 06:04 PM
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QUOTE (aliali @ Dec 21 2011, 05:22 PM) *
QUOTE (Dasa @ Dec 21 2011, 02:52 PM) *
QUOTE (ameel @ Dec 21 2011, 01:23 PM) *
Alright. Thanks for that. I'm gonna give OC a few more tries.

I was just a bit disappointed with the temperature readings. was hoping to get below 30 on idle and below 50 on load :(

you would need a rather cold room and some high speed fans or watercooling to manage those temps

Yep you can never cool below ambient unless you want to fit a refrigeration type cooler, or something running a total loss nitrogen or dry ice system :P
In reality 10 to 20 degrees above ambient is probably as good as you will get on air.


true fair enough. will try OC at higher fan speed and see how it goes
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GhostFaceKilla
post Dec 21 2011, 06:07 PM
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QUOTE (ameel @ Dec 21 2011, 12:38 PM) *
QUOTE (bowiee @ Dec 21 2011, 12:37 PM) *
Nothing unusual in those temps.


but its a thermaltake frio? isn't that supposedly one of the better air cooling devices?


What is most important is what your load temps are.

Your load temps arent bad. At idle those temps are still fine totally. So overall its fine. Thats still cooler at idle than the stock cooler and at load more importantlly your looking at a massive difference in temps.


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ameel
post Dec 21 2011, 09:11 PM
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QUOTE (GhostFaceKilla @ Dec 21 2011, 06:07 PM) *
QUOTE (ameel @ Dec 21 2011, 12:38 PM) *
QUOTE (bowiee @ Dec 21 2011, 12:37 PM) *
Nothing unusual in those temps.


but its a thermaltake frio? isn't that supposedly one of the better air cooling devices?


What is most important is what your load temps are.

Your load temps arent bad. At idle those temps are still fine totally. So overall its fine. Thats still cooler at idle than the stock cooler and at load more importantlly your looking at a massive difference in temps.


I'm getting 58-61 degrees with prime95 running, cpu fan at full speed
Core speed is 4200MHZ
core voltage is 1.296-1.304
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