The SSD Journey - optimal configuration and use, not a guide... Options

[Vanne]

just thought id add my 2 cents to this thread. I normally run a stripped 0 array in my windows box, and gets a WEI of 6.3 (disk) and after upgrading to a Corsair X64 SSD, my WEI has gone up to 7.3 (disk).

Looking at those numbers, it seems reasonable that ive gained a 16% increase in boot time and OS operation speed (when dependant upon disk throughput) The boot time seems to confirm this also on my box going from stripped to SSD.

That said, i recon 16% is jack shit realy, and seems to me that SSD is much, muchly overrated!!!

I do like the no noise factor, thats properly more beneficial than any slight speed increase.

at any rate, iam not super impressed.

[Betzie]

I just installed on a 60gb SF ssd (patriot inferno) and came from a single 150gb raptor (not velociraptor, the old one)

and I'm not impressed...., good for a lappy tho, but a little disaponted, i thought it might be a it more amazing than what it is...

yet to bench, but it doesnt feel much faster.

anyhoo, I am happy fpr a few of the other reasons, mainly this is quiet and cool, where the raptor is a lot noisy and hot.


Spewingly w7 didnt see my drive and I had to disble defrag, thanks to this thread I made sure I checked.

cheers

[Nich...]

When I installed some last week (OCZ Vertex 2), Win7 disabled defrag but not indexing.

[Betzie]

AS SSD Benchmark 1.5.3784.37609
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Name: Patriot Inferno 60GB SSD ATA Device
Firmware: 320A13F0
Controller: msahci
Offset: 103424 K - OK
Size: 55.90 GB
Date: 25/11/2010 10:35:02 PM
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Sequential:
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Read: 160.10 MB/s
Write: 95.33 MB/s
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4K:
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Read: 20.19 MB/s
Write: 50.15 MB/s
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4K-64Threads:
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Read: 23.97 MB/s
Write: 78.73 MB/s
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Access Times:
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Read: 0.120 ms
Write: 0.240 ms
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Score:
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Read: 60
Write: 138
Total: 236
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I don't know what that means!!?!

[LogicprObe]

just thought id add my 2 cents to this thread. I normally run a stripped 0 array in my windows box, and gets a WEI of 6.3 (disk) and after upgrading to a Corsair X64 SSD, my WEI has gone up to 7.3 (disk).

Looking at those numbers, it seems reasonable that ive gained a 16% increase in boot time and OS operation speed (when dependant upon disk throughput) The boot time seems to confirm this also on my box going from stripped to SSD.

That said, i recon 16% is jack shit realy, and seems to me that SSD is much, muchly overrated!!!

I do like the no noise factor, thats properly more beneficial than any slight speed increase.

at any rate, iam not super impressed.

16% ain't jack shit!
It's an increase!

[madllama]

With regards to alignment offset, you pretty much only need to worry about this on RAID arrays as the offset can cause sector boundaries to cross between disks. This can lead to inefficiencies such as two disks being involved in an IO that should only need one disk.

MS has a KB on calculating the offset. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929491

There is plenty of other info out there, just google "alignment offset RAID"

[hulkster]

Just ordered my 60 gig corsair SSD.
Should help my system along nicely. Should get it on monday.
Thanks for the post Macca. Lots of help there :)
My system currently runs;
Core i5 760
4 gig ddr 3
GTX 470
windows 7 64 bit
1TB seagate drive

So dropping in that SSD would be my next best upgrade option. Yes?

This post has been edited by hulkster: Dec 17 2010, 08:26 AM

[Vanne]

I stand by what i said, 16% is jack shit.. That said, things may get interesting if you raid0 2 ssd's...

at any case, i wouldn't upgrade any component for a lousy 16% increase...

[Dasa]

OCZ'z Vertex Pro 3 Demo: World's First SandForce SF-2000
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4100/ocz-ver...andforce-sf2000
Today at CES, OCZ previewed its first SF-2000 based drives: the Vertex 3 Pro and Vertex 3 EX. Both are based on SandForce’s SF-2582 controller, the highest end offering in the SF-2000 family. The drives won’t see the light of day for months (sometime in Q2) and what OCZ is showing today is very, *very* early silicon and hardware. The drives are using 32nm Toshiba toggle-mode NAND (effectively DDR NAND), however OCZ will go to market with 25nm Intel NAND when the drive is ready.

[i_am_banned]

Well there's jack all stock of SF1200 drives anywhere, I got one of the last few that seem to be in the country coming in the mail in the next couple of days. It's going in an Aluminum MacBook, I'll let you guys know how I go with it over time and whether there is performance degradation on Macs.

[Bodie_CI5]

In order to install an SSD on already existing system, you need to reinstall your current OS? I have Googled the topic, but I've not yet seen any explicit 'yes', yet. (Windows 7 - if this helps)

[smakme7757]

In order to install an SSD on already existing system, you need to reinstall your current OS? I have Googled the topic, but I've not yet seen any explicit 'yes', yet. (Windows 7 - if this helps)

If you are cloneing a disk then you just have to run the WPI and double check that trim is enabled:


Command prompt > fsutil behavior query disabledeletenotify

DisableDeleteNotify = 1 (Windows TRIM commands are disabled)
DisableDeleteNotify = 0 (Windows TRIM commands are enabled)

I have always done a full reinstall of the OS, but it shouldn't be a requirement as long as trim is enabled.

[Bodie_CI5]

Hello smackme, and thanks a million for your reply!

I'll purchase one in the lead up to Christmas and work it out during the break - didn't really feel like reinstalling my OS as apart from one smallish problem, it's running very well and is stable.

You've given me cause for much optimism - again, thanks!

[Dasa]

something you may want to add that can improve battery up time in laptops with ssd
DIPM (Device Initiated Power Management)

guide on how to enable it in windows 7 here
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/17781...-hipm-dipm.html

or if you want to do it manually with regedit
http://www.overclock.net/t/1311382/how-to-...ws-7-save-power


from what i can find it will have a bigger effect on some ssd than others and allows the ssd itself more control over there power use
performance can apparently be measurably effected but unless there is a firmware bug i dont think it should be noticable

it lowered the idle power use of the 14" 3317u laptop i just installed a plextor 256m5s in from ~14.5w down to ~13w so ~10% less
from the push of the power button this laptop has gone from booting in over 1min with a 500g 5400rpm hdd to ~15sec from the push of the power button to desktop not bad for a $800 lappy with a 1.7ghz-2.6 turbo cpu and a $179 ssd

[elfanger]

I follow this guide when installing SSD's: http://www.overclock.net/t/1156654/seans-w...e-for-ssds-hdds