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Birth control 'Vasalgel' for men nearing final stages of development, With no snip-snip would you be keen on having it done?
TheFrunj
post Apr 29 2011, 06:07 PM
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Male fertility and contraception has always been a curious affair, since there's no over-the-counter pill to stop the legions of sperm we make every day. A bloke in india's developed a treatment that, unlike a vasectomy, doesn't need anything more than a one-time injection to work. It's not something you can do yourself (though that wouldn't be a particularly pleasant experience!) and is done by a doctor. It's being studied now but seems sure to be released upon the world. Huge fascinating read here:

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The procedure is known by the clunky acronym RISUG (for reversible inhibition of sperm under guidance), but it is in fact quite elegant: The substance that Das injected was a nontoxic polymer that forms a coating on the inside of the vas. As sperm flow past, they are chemically incapacitated, rendering them unable to fertilize an egg.

If the research pans out, RISUG would represent the biggest advance in male birth control since a clever Polish entrepreneur dipped a phallic mold into liquid rubber and invented the modern condom. “It holds tremendous promise,” says Ronald Weiss, a leading Canadian vasectomy surgeon and a member of a World Health Organization team that visited India to look into RISUG. “If we can prove that RISUG is safe and effective and reversible, there is no reason why anybody would have a vasectomy.”

http://www.wired.com/magazine/2011/04/ff_vasectomy/all/1 (note: NSFW image of a scrotum appears halfway through as a thumbnail for a video)

Personally I think that this is a great idea, and it seems incredibly cost-effective too. I like that it's not as damaging as a full-blown vasectomy either. If I were married and had had all the kids my partner and I wanted, I'd definitely get the injection. Long way off though!

Under what circumstances would you consider getting the treatment done? Would you consider it at all?


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ArcaneMagik
post Apr 29 2011, 08:22 PM
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As long as it's safe, reversible and has an extremely high effectiveness. It's got to stop millions of swimmers, not just 1 egg.


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Director
post Apr 29 2011, 08:31 PM
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My vasectomy trumps your jelly.


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post Apr 29 2011, 08:48 PM
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orinjuse
post Apr 29 2011, 09:36 PM
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Sounds promising! If any country needs it, it's India.


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Laptirp
post Apr 29 2011, 09:46 PM
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Come back to me once the research has finished "panning out".

Until then, my Depo injection every 3 months will do me fine, thank you.

EDIT: it would be interesting to see how many blokes would actually take the onus upon themselves, if this comes to fruition,rather than insisting that the woman is the one responsible for the contraception.

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Master_Scythe
post Apr 29 2011, 09:54 PM
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id do it today. as long as sperm banks are cheap (and they are) incase i want kids in the future.


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LordBug
post Apr 29 2011, 09:56 PM
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Meh, now that I know that the snip can be administered whilst knocked out, I've got nothing to worry about.


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TheFrunj
post Apr 29 2011, 10:05 PM
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QUOTE (ArcaneMagik @ Apr 29 2011, 08:22 PM) *
As long as it's safe, reversible and has an extremely high effectiveness. It's got to stop millions of swimmers, not just 1 egg.

The research indicates a yes for all three of those. It's going through the approval process in the US too, and their quality requirements are quite stringent. An especially stressed point is that the process doesn't generate accidental births, and that no accidental births have been recorded with birth defects. So on all fronts it seems a winner.
QUOTE (orinjuse @ Apr 29 2011, 09:36 PM) *
Sounds promising! If any country needs it, it's India.

My thoughts also, overpopulation is starting to become a real problem. Well, it's been a problem for a while, but it's definitely worsening quickly.
QUOTE (Laptirp @ Apr 29 2011, 09:46 PM) *
EDIT: it would be interesting to see how many blokes would actually take the onus upon themselves, if this comes to fruition,rather than insisting that the woman is the one responsible for the contraception.

I would, I don't want to have to deal with a potential baby before I'm ready :P

*edit* Not that I'd get either process before I'm done with kids, I'd happily take a daily pill or whatnot if it worked.


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Laptirp
post Apr 29 2011, 10:07 PM
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QUOTE (LordBug @ Apr 29 2011, 09:56 PM) *
Meh, now that I know that the snip can be administered whilst knocked out, I've got nothing to worry about.


^^Herein lies the problem.

Most men expect women to be responsible for contraception.

When it comes to a choice between the 'snip' or tubal ligation, most men would rather their partner has a tubal ligation (which, by necessity, involves a general anaesthetic), rather than a male having a vasectomy (which 99% of the time can be done under a local anaesthetic).


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Genisis X
post Apr 29 2011, 10:26 PM
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If it was safe and effective I'd be all for it.

There is no fucking way I'd leave the contraception all up to the women. I've known a couple of them now who have mysteriously gotten pregnant after their blokes said they weren't going to marry them.

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post Apr 29 2011, 10:33 PM
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QUOTE (Director @ Apr 29 2011, 08:31 PM) *
My vasectomy trumps your jelly.
Tell that to one of my uncles. I think he had to go back in for another, and maybe another, after two more bundles of joy.


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Laptirp
post Apr 29 2011, 10:54 PM
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QUOTE (Nich... @ Apr 29 2011, 10:33 PM) *
QUOTE (Director @ Apr 29 2011, 08:31 PM) *
My vasectomy trumps your jelly.
Tell that to one of my uncles. I think he had to go back in for another, and maybe another, after two more bundles of joy.


The doctor obviously didn't know what he was doing.

He's a likely candidate for litigious 'allegations' should your uncle wish to pursue it. (unless he hasn't done so already.)


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LordBug
post Apr 29 2011, 10:55 PM
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QUOTE (Laptirp @ Apr 29 2011, 08:07 PM) *
QUOTE (LordBug @ Apr 29 2011, 09:56 PM) *
Meh, now that I know that the snip can be administered whilst knocked out, I've got nothing to worry about.


^^Herein lies the problem.

Most men expect women to be responsible for contraception.

When it comes to a choice between the 'snip' or tubal ligation, most men would rather their partner has a tubal ligation (which, by necessity, involves a general anaesthetic), rather than a male having a vasectomy (which 99% of the time can be done under a local anaesthetic).


Wuh?

How does my post indicate that?


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Laptirp
post Apr 29 2011, 10:57 PM
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QUOTE (LordBug @ Apr 29 2011, 10:55 PM) *
QUOTE (Laptirp @ Apr 29 2011, 08:07 PM) *
QUOTE (LordBug @ Apr 29 2011, 09:56 PM) *
Meh, now that I know that the snip can be administered whilst knocked out, I've got nothing to worry about.


^^Herein lies the problem.

Most men expect women to be responsible for contraception.

When it comes to a choice between the 'snip' or tubal ligation, most men would rather their partner has a tubal ligation (which, by necessity, involves a general anaesthetic), rather than a male having a vasectomy (which 99% of the time can be done under a local anaesthetic).


Wuh?

How does my post indicate that?


If you weren't 'knocked out' would you do it?
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LordBug
post Apr 29 2011, 11:02 PM
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QUOTE (Laptirp @ Apr 29 2011, 08:57 PM) *
QUOTE (LordBug @ Apr 29 2011, 10:55 PM) *
QUOTE (Laptirp @ Apr 29 2011, 08:07 PM) *
QUOTE (LordBug @ Apr 29 2011, 09:56 PM) *
Meh, now that I know that the snip can be administered whilst knocked out, I've got nothing to worry about.


^^Herein lies the problem.

Most men expect women to be responsible for contraception.

When it comes to a choice between the 'snip' or tubal ligation, most men would rather their partner has a tubal ligation (which, by necessity, involves a general anaesthetic), rather than a male having a vasectomy (which 99% of the time can be done under a local anaesthetic).


Wuh?

How does my post indicate that?


If you weren't 'knocked out' would you do it?


Yes, because even though I have a severe phobia relating to needles and being awake during any form of surgery, I've discussed things with my partner and understand that overall it's better for me to go through the surgery than her. I'd already accepted it before finding out about the option for general.

I'm going to be rude, but you should honest to god ask before you assume. Doing that can be very insulting.


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moist
post Apr 29 2011, 11:20 PM
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QUOTE (Laptirp @ Apr 29 2011, 10:07 PM) *
Most men expect women to be responsible for contraception.


I wonder why that is?


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Laptirp
post Apr 29 2011, 11:24 PM
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QUOTE (LordBug @ Apr 29 2011, 11:02 PM) *
QUOTE (Laptirp @ Apr 29 2011, 08:57 PM) *
QUOTE (LordBug @ Apr 29 2011, 10:55 PM) *
QUOTE (Laptirp @ Apr 29 2011, 08:07 PM) *
QUOTE (LordBug @ Apr 29 2011, 09:56 PM) *
Meh, now that I know that the snip can be administered whilst knocked out, I've got nothing to worry about.


^^Herein lies the problem.

Most men expect women to be responsible for contraception.

When it comes to a choice between the 'snip' or tubal ligation, most men would rather their partner has a tubal ligation (which, by necessity, involves a general anaesthetic), rather than a male having a vasectomy (which 99% of the time can be done under a local anaesthetic).


Wuh?

How does my post indicate that?


If you weren't 'knocked out' would you do it?


Yes, because even though I have a severe phobia relating to needles and being awake during any form of surgery, I've discussed things with my partner and understand that overall it's better for me to go through the surgery than her. I'd already accepted it before finding out about the option for general.

I'm going to be rude, but you should honest to god ask before you assume. Doing that can be very insulting.


I go by your post, that's all I've got.

Your post has assumptions which weren't clarified within. From your post, you seem to make the statement that, unless you were 'knocked out' you wouldn't do it.

Now I know, my apologies for making such assumptions.

Have a nice day.

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post Apr 30 2011, 01:50 AM
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QUOTE (Laptirp @ Apr 29 2011, 10:54 PM) *
The doctor obviously didn't know what he was doing.

He's a likely candidate for litigious 'allegations' should your uncle wish to pursue it. (unless he hasn't done so already.)
Perhaps, but they are probably long beyond the statute of limitations, anyway, now that they are grandparents.


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CheekyChops
post Apr 30 2011, 02:02 AM
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Sounds interesting!

I think it would good for Juggs and I, Im just terrible at taking the pill...my shift work hours mess me around so much I always forget to take it, and if I leave the packet at home im screwed since my shift length is so long. Also because of me constantly swapping from day and night shifts, I would have to set alarms to wake up to take the fucking thing. Too hard. Not effective for me and my current work lifestyle.

I have considered that injectable rod that goes under the skin in your arm...the name escapes me now. I spoke to my doctor about it and he said that he removes more of them than he puts in, he said alot of people react badly to it and end up having it taken out, and advised me against it.

I have tried a few birth control methods now...we just stick to condoms and the withdraw lol.

Im amazed in 6 years I havent fallen pregnant yet relying on the most unreliable form of contraception! Im starting to think maybe its me...I know it isnt him, he has a child, his bits work. Must be me, or we are just very good at timing.

This would be good for us as we arent ready for kids yet, and its something he can do since I fail at taking pills and cant have that rod in my arm :S


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