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the Corsair H100 is well worth the price.
mattyamdfanboi
post Feb 16 2012, 11:01 AM
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Rear exhaust fans on a GPU makes no difference at all to what i was talking about.. if warm air is being dragged INTO the case via the top fans coz lets face it.. the hottest air in a case is at the top.. hot air rises, it will blow it down the case and the GPU fans will intake that nice warm air and blow it over the GPUs before exiting out the rear exhaust. and it makes a hell of a difference trust me.. my gpus went from 90deg down to 76 just by blowing cool air on them.

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Ezkaton
post Feb 16 2012, 11:25 AM
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I set the GPU fans to 50%, put the 200mm side fan on high, and the rear exhaust fan on high and now the top 6950 sits at 50-53c idle, and the bottom is 40c idle.
CPU is sitting on 30-34 across the four cores.

Not too bad.
I will monitor the temps when I put them under stress when I have time.


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NukeJockey
post Feb 16 2012, 04:29 PM
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QUOTE (mattyamdfanboi @ Feb 16 2012, 12:01 PM) *
Rear exhaust fans on a GPU makes no difference at all to what i was talking about.. if warm air is being dragged INTO the case via the top fans coz lets face it.. the hottest air in a case is at the top.. hot air rises, it will blow it down the case and the GPU fans will intake that nice warm air and blow it over the GPUs before exiting out the rear exhaust. and it makes a hell of a difference trust me.. my gpus went from 90deg down to 76 just by blowing cool air on them.


I don't trust you, sorry.

His issue has nothing to do with the temperature of the air or where its coming from, its a simple issue of not enough airflow to the top card, hence the higher idle temps. The side case fan simply does not have enough pressure to be effective.

I should clarify, while I agree that having cool air blowing onto the GPUs is a good idea, he doesn't have many options, its either warm air onto the top of the very first gpu, which will do fuck all as most of it will get taken out by the rear exhaust, OR he could have it so the radiator sucks in hot air and his cpu temps will be ludicrous.

In his setup, with his shitty case, with 2 cards on air, the way he has it mounted is the best option imo.


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mattyamdfanboi
post Feb 16 2012, 04:34 PM
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LOL suck in hot air frmo where??? imaginary space?? lol the things that heat up a case are generally, CPU (but its under water so not the case here) GPUs that blow hot air around the case.. again.. not the case here. so instead of introducing warm air.. its best to get rid of it.. and if the side fan isnt blowing enough.. REPLACE IT. ESPECIALLY since he doesnt have many options as u so claim


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NukeJockey
post Feb 16 2012, 05:07 PM
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QUOTE (mattyamdfanboi @ Feb 16 2012, 05:34 PM) *
LOL suck in hot air frmo where??? imaginary space?? lol the things that heat up a case are generally, CPU (but its under water so not the case here) GPUs that blow hot air around the case.. again.. not the case here. so instead of introducing warm air.. its best to get rid of it.. and if the side fan isnt blowing enough.. REPLACE IT. ESPECIALLY since he doesnt have many options as u so claim


Good luck finding a high pressure 200mm fan. His issue is the gap between the cards is not wide enough to let enough air in.

As for hot air, did you forget about the fucking chipset? What about the radiant heat that comes off the GPUs and rises?

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mattyamdfanboi
post Feb 16 2012, 05:54 PM
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lol dude.. i ran SLi with 1mm apart.. i have my cpu overclocked.. i have the chipset off its face.. everything in my pc is well well over the top.. and while the chipset does make a bit of heat.. its hardly comparable to the CPU with an aircooler blowing the hot air around..

which is why on this case.. its minimal.. and good luck? ive got a 200mm fan on the back of my PC by coolermaster and it extracts a shit load of air

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_p...oducts_id=11310

there you go.. 142cfm.. thats a MASSIVE amount of air.

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_p...oducts_id=19136

thats another one you could use.. good lucking finding any??? took me the whole of 30 seconds. hes having the same problem anyone with 2 gpus and no space have. but using proper fans and a good setup isnt hard to do if you just spend a few mins doing some quick reading.

Use a one of those fans on your gpus, and have the top fans extracting air.. that'll keep ur cpu and ur gpus cooler.


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Ezkaton
post Feb 17 2012, 06:12 AM
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My temps are fine after doing some fan speed adjustments.
Tested the CPU under 100% load and it stayed on 51-53c... i7 920 @ 3.6GHz.
GPU idle at 50 or so which seems quite normal... same as when I had a single card and an air cooler on the CPU.
Load gets into the 70s, which is fine for an AMD card.
All of my ATi/AMD cards have performed fine right up to 90c under air.

I think my PC will be fine, no need to continue arguing. :)


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NukeJockey
post Feb 23 2012, 09:38 AM
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QUOTE (mattyamdfanboi @ Feb 16 2012, 06:54 PM) *
lol dude.. i ran SLi with 1mm apart.. i have my cpu overclocked.. i have the chipset off its face.. everything in my pc is well well over the top.. and while the chipset does make a bit of heat.. its hardly comparable to the CPU with an aircooler blowing the hot air around..

which is why on this case.. its minimal.. and good luck? ive got a 200mm fan on the back of my PC by coolermaster and it extracts a shit load of air

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_p...oducts_id=11310

there you go.. 142cfm.. thats a MASSIVE amount of air.

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_p...oducts_id=19136

thats another one you could use.. good lucking finding any??? took me the whole of 30 seconds. hes having the same problem anyone with 2 gpus and no space have. but using proper fans and a good setup isnt hard to do if you just spend a few mins doing some quick reading.

Use a one of those fans on your gpus, and have the top fans extracting air.. that'll keep ur cpu and ur gpus cooler.


Massive amounts of air mean shit when the pressure is crap.


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Ezkaton
post Feb 23 2012, 12:10 PM
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I'm hoping to change case at the end of March to an NZXT Switch 810 (white).
That should solve my minor issues. :)

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deejeta
post Apr 16 2012, 07:34 PM
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Closed loop coolers like that of Corsair and Antec are rubbish compared to a decent custom wc loop in my opinion. Crap pumps, and no res. I took apart a H70 and there was f*** all coolant.
If one is going to w/c go the custom route, better temps and flexibility.


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Ezkaton
post Apr 17 2012, 11:59 AM
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For an easy solution with better cooling than air, they're quite sufficient I think.

Custom is all well and good, but not all of us have the time, patience, and dedication to building a full custom loop.


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NukeJockey
post Apr 17 2012, 02:00 PM
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deejeeta, while I tend to agree with you that custom water is better, I think you're missing the point of what these coolers are for. Not everyone wants to have to deal with a WC setup, filling it, routing it all properly etc.

These are a nice neat, cheap (compared to real water) and most of all, require zero maintenance.


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123abc
post Apr 18 2012, 12:30 AM
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I think the cheaper all in one coolers such as the Antec 620 are great and very competitively priced, however paying $150 for the h100 is bollocks. If paying $70 more for a few degrees better temps means so much, then why wouldn't you go for a kit or custom loop which will yield far better results.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/h2o-h8...ing,3084-8.html

Antec 620 $85
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_p...oducts_id=16986

Corsair H100 $159
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_p...oducts_id=17961

And the tubing and blocks on the Corsair coolers look so god damn ugly.
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NukeJockey
post Apr 18 2012, 09:53 AM
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Once again, it all comes down to it being easy and neat, as I said in my previous post, not everyone has the time for a full loop, its why the corsair and antec all-in-ones are so popular.


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123abc
post Apr 18 2012, 12:56 PM
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Yes I agree as I said I think the cheaper 120 rad models are great, however the price/performance gain of the H100 is terrible and not really justified.
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post Apr 18 2012, 10:10 PM
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the price performance of the 120 rad models sucks to vs air but you need a massive 140mm hsf to compete and not everyone likes to install something like that

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post Apr 19 2012, 11:25 AM
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QUOTE (123abc @ Apr 18 2012, 12:56 PM) *
Yes I agree as I said I think the cheaper 120 rad models are great, however the price/performance gain of the H100 is terrible and not really justified.



An extra $50 or $60 for 8c? I'd pay that Over the price of the H50 or Kuhler 620.

But yes, in general price/performance of these all in ones is lacking, they are however, as I have said many times, so damn easy for a novice user to install and set up, more so than most Air coolers, that people will continue to purchase them just for that.

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post Apr 20 2012, 02:30 AM
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That's fair enough, as long as people are happy with their purchases that's really all that counts. I am getting a loop in the next few weeks, so maybe I'll come crying back to my hsf and wish I got an all-in-one :P
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post Apr 20 2012, 10:40 AM
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shitty performance?
my temps tell me different.
I'm finding the H100 to be far superior to those monstrous towers
at idle I achieve between 22c and 30c, depending on the weather
at 4.6G it rarely reaches 50c under load
I reckon that's great over the counter cooling.
having had a H2O loop in the past, I love the convenience. not much chance that I'd go back to a proper loop


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NukeJockey
post Apr 20 2012, 11:59 AM
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I'm finding it the same with my girlfriends Antec Kuhler 620, it seems to get better temps on my old i7 930 than my silver arrow cooler did.


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