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the Corsair H100 is well worth the price.
Dasa
post Dec 7 2011, 09:15 AM
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non reference may be better than reference with a bit of luck so maybe its something to be happy about but how much better if at all? who knows
you can cool the gpu much better which will make it nice cool and quiet but weather you will safely be able to oc any further is another thing

not wrong thread just a bit of a hijack when talk of water got a bit sidetracked :)


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Slackboy72
post Dec 7 2011, 09:25 AM
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Like someone said before it's the GPU that would be better to cool rather than the CPU.
I'm looking at getting a water setup but is there any off-the-shelf system specifically for GPUs?
My 4870 resembles a small hoover when it's cranking out the polygons in earnest and I can't imagine the new ones coming out will be any better.
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osama_bin_athlon
post Dec 7 2011, 09:30 AM
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QUOTE (Slackboy72 @ Dec 7 2011, 09:25 AM) *
Like someone said before it's the GPU that would be better to cool rather than the CPU.
I'm looking at getting a water setup but is there any off-the-shelf system specifically for GPUs?
My 4870 resembles a small hoover when it's cranking out the polygons in earnest and I can't imagine the new ones coming out will be any better.



the 4870 is getting rather old - you sure that you want to spend money on it?
I'd rather get a new vid card, than water cool one that's getting obsolete
chances are it'd be quieter, and definitely perform better
I'd think about that carefully


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Dasa
post Dec 7 2011, 09:58 AM
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you can probably make your 4870 a bit cooler\quieter with a fresh application of thermal paste and by blowing the dust out of the heatsink
other than that im in agreeance with oba that its not really worth spending much more on unless its universal and can be moved to a new card

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Slackboy72
post Dec 7 2011, 10:00 AM
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QUOTE (osama_bin_athlon @ Dec 7 2011, 09:30 AM) *
QUOTE (Slackboy72 @ Dec 7 2011, 09:25 AM) *
Like someone said before it's the GPU that would be better to cool rather than the CPU.
I'm looking at getting a water setup but is there any off-the-shelf system specifically for GPUs?
My 4870 resembles a small hoover when it's cranking out the polygons in earnest and I can't imagine the new ones coming out will be any better.



the 4870 is getting rather old - you sure that you want to spend money on it?
I'd rather get a new vid card, than water cool one that's getting obsolete
chances are it'd be quieter, and definitely perform better
I'd think about that carefully


I'm just waiting on this "rumoured" 7000 series announcement before I stump up for either a 580 or one of the new 7950s*
That still doesn't change the fact that video cards usually use the most power and produce the most heat and noise in a system.



* if they exist.
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ReapermanRS
post Dec 7 2011, 10:00 AM
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QUOTE (osama_bin_athlon @ Dec 7 2011, 09:39 AM) *
QUOTE (ReapermanRS @ Dec 6 2011, 11:49 PM) *
Yeah done some research and my gtx 570 isn't reference, sadness. Still not sure which way to go with cooling I never get over 42 degrees on air with my e8400 although the chipset gets up to 50.
Maybe I should get some higher speed 200mm fans and a few front intakes and just go with the 920 if I can't cool the gpu.



wrong thread?


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osama_bin_athlon
post Dec 7 2011, 10:24 AM
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QUOTE (ReapermanRS @ Dec 7 2011, 11:00 AM) *
QUOTE (osama_bin_athlon @ Dec 7 2011, 09:39 AM) *
QUOTE (ReapermanRS @ Dec 6 2011, 11:49 PM) *
Yeah done some research and my gtx 570 isn't reference, sadness. Still not sure which way to go with cooling I never get over 42 degrees on air with my e8400 although the chipset gets up to 50.
Maybe I should get some higher speed 200mm fans and a few front intakes and just go with the 920 if I can't cool the gpu.



wrong thread?


Hijack ALL the threads!

Ahem, sorry about that.



no probs - I'm guilty of the same, on occasion
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Antraman
post Jan 28 2012, 07:55 PM
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Just got myself the H100 from MSY for $157, this will be going in my new build (ASUS Crosshair V with 1100T), my first foray into water. I figured an enclosed system first because its easier...but one of the reasons why I chose it over a large air cooler was to allow more clearance over the DIMMS. Pretty much all the high performance RAM has double height RAMsinks sticking up, which kinda limits the placement of large aftermarket air coolers. (Althought Kingston HyperX has a low enough profile to fit under my TRUE (from sight), but Kingston only goes up to 1600 I think in the 4GB sticks...)

I agree with Dasa that the GPU waterblock is possibly more important. There seems to be more heat producing components on a GPU, and some get quite hot...eg the VRM. I have an Arctic Cooling Accelero Extreme and it keeps everything nice and cool except the VRM's, which climb to over 90deg C which can't be good. I don't know if I missed putting a heatsink on a VRM, but when I fitted the cooler, I remember chucking heatsinks on as much stuff as I could without shorting things.

I'd be interested in a waterblock that also covers the RAM and the VRM as well as the GPU (Powercolor 5870 Eyefinity 6)...looks like Corsair haven't got into those yet.

Will fit the H100 soon when I get the RAM I want...

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xsv
post Jan 31 2012, 03:31 PM
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Didn't have the space in my case for the H100, so I got the H80 instead. I'm so happy with it! I haven't noticed much of a difference temperature-wise yet between the two beside 1-3 degrees warmer on average. :)
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Ezkaton
post Feb 13 2012, 07:44 PM
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I got a H100 today, but didn't stop to think/remember that I have twin 140mm fans with a small gap in between each fan on the roof of my case.
Not the dual 120mm that the H100 comes with/mounts to.

Damn Antec P193.

I'm gonna ghetto rig it up with cable ties through the honeycomb mesh stuff on top.
Wish me luck, haha.


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osama_bin_athlon
post Feb 15 2012, 01:26 AM
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QUOTE (Ezkaton @ Feb 13 2012, 08:44 PM) *
I got a H100 today, but didn't stop to think/remember that I have twin 140mm fans with a small gap in between each fan on the roof of my case.
Not the dual 120mm that the H100 comes with/mounts to.

Damn Antec P193.

I'm gonna ghetto rig it up with cable ties through the honeycomb mesh stuff on top.
Wish me luck, haha.



um....can't you screw thru' the mesh?
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Ezkaton
post Feb 15 2012, 05:20 AM
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If I do, it won't be all the holes... check out a pic of the top of a P193 and you will see what I mean.
Though I am left wondering if when both 120mm fans are pushed together (stock 140mm fans have a 1cm gap or so between) they have enough clearance to screw in the ends of the radiator through the mesh. I'll have to do some experimenting when I'm ready to put it all in... (possibly tonight).


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post Feb 15 2012, 11:11 AM
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If worst comes to worst, you could always drill new case holes...go buy a $50 ozito 14.4v drill and a diamond tipped drill bit, little bit expensive for one thing, but drills always come in handy and for a $50 cordless, the 14.4v ozito isnt bad.


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mattyamdfanboi
post Feb 15 2012, 01:33 PM
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not a bad bit of kit.. but for the coin i wouldve gone to a proper water cooling unit. more maintanence sure, but it works better too


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Ezkaton
post Feb 15 2012, 07:23 PM
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Okay, so to save me sending stuff to a few different people that wanted to see how I went with this, I will put them in this thread.
It turned out well, I set it up so the fans suck air in through the roof and bring cooler air across the radiator and into the case.

Figured it would be better than blowing hot air from inside the case across the radiator and out the top.

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post Feb 15 2012, 07:47 PM
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so warm air straight onto your ram and GPU... hmmmmm i dont think i wouldve gone that way.. oh wait.. nope i didnt.. ive got my top fans blowing air out the top as i have fans on the side bringing fresh air into the case as well as 2 front fans and 1 bottom one with a large one in the back taking air out..

temps are generally quite low.. 40-42 range on a normal day and upto 50 on a 40deg day.. and seeing as your also running sli like i was, thats another reason to have the tops extract air.. not bring warm air into the case


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Ezkaton
post Feb 15 2012, 09:10 PM
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I have a 200mm fan on the side of my case blowing air directly onto both gpu... and a fan on the rear drawing air out.
I can always snip the cable ties and put the fans on the underside blowing air out of the case if it becomes problematic.

No big deal.


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post Feb 15 2012, 10:21 PM
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QUOTE (mattyamdfanboi @ Feb 15 2012, 08:47 PM) *
so warm air straight onto your ram and GPU... hmmmmm i dont think i wouldve gone that way.. oh wait.. nope i didnt.. ive got my top fans blowing air out the top as i have fans on the side bringing fresh air into the case as well as 2 front fans and 1 bottom one with a large one in the back taking air out..

temps are generally quite low.. 40-42 range on a normal day and upto 50 on a 40deg day.. and seeing as your also running sli like i was, thats another reason to have the tops extract air.. not bring warm air into the case


I think you'll find that being rear exhaust cards it won't be an issue, I'm doing the same thing with my water setup and it doesn't cause issues at all, still receive low temps inside the case etc.

Although being a P193, I'm not sure the fan setup will matter at all, the case will still get toasty as.

I like to think of those Antec Performance cases as ovens, they don't have enough airflow imo and all the sound deadening stuff acts as an insulator. For a crossfire setup, you'd really want to be getting out of that case ASAP into perhaps a full tower so you have a bit more space. You may also want to check what your best PCI-E slots are in your mobo manual, as you may be able to seperate the cards by a slot or 2 and still run it at 8x.


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Ezkaton
post Feb 16 2012, 06:55 AM
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The manual says it is recommended that you use the second slot. It didn't mention the third...
Are there any downsides to using the third slot, performance-wise? Being 8x and all.


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NukeJockey
post Feb 16 2012, 10:46 AM
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Not really, tests show that performance loss for most cards is less than 1% (with 16x and 8x vs 16x and 16x), might be a bit higher now but would only result in differences of 1 or 2 FPS at a maximum.

*EDIT* Clarification.

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