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Piledriver and Trinity, Moving on from Bulldozer
tunksy
post Mar 22 2012, 06:11 PM
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nice boost in performance for the onboard gpu, very impressed with these.


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UberPenguin
post Mar 22 2012, 08:43 PM
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Even the cpu seems to improved somewhat and at a lower TDP. I'm really looking forward to real benches of these guys.

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post Apr 5 2012, 11:14 AM
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http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/26633-am...s-in-production
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AMD Virgo Trinity cores in production

A10 and A8 shipping in Q2

Good news for people who are waiting to upgrade to AMD’s Virgo FM2 platform and Trinity processors. AMD has notified its partners that some new parts are already in production.

The most notable new processor is the A10 5800K that went out of the production sample phase in early February and it went into production in early March. A10 5700 was in production sample phase in mid-February and it entered production in mid March. A8 5600K is in production since early March as well, while the A8 5500 is in production as of mid of last month.

A6 5400K and A4 5300 should enter production ready sample phase in early April and move to full scale production in April 2012. The current schedule is that A10 5800K, A10 5700, A8 5600K, A8 5500 start shipping in Q3 2012 while the last two A6 5400K and A4 5300 start shipping in Q4 2012.


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post Apr 5 2012, 01:56 PM
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http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/26635-tr...-more-efficient
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HD 7660 Turks XT based GPU inside
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The A10 5800K has 4MB of L2 cache, supports DDR3 1866, dual graphics configurations as well as AMD’s new FM2 socket. The fun part is new HD 7660D GPU that works at 800MHz and comes with 384 shader units. The current APU market leader A8 3870K that works at 3GHz has HD 6550 graphics with 400 cores running at 600MHz.


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post Apr 5 2012, 04:57 PM
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Looks like my next laptop is calling. Just have to figure out how to get it :P


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post Apr 10 2012, 03:15 PM
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QUOTE (sora3 @ Apr 5 2012, 05:57 PM) *
Looks like my next laptop is calling. Just have to figure out how to get it :P

Well you've got till May 15th to figure it out...


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nobody813
post Apr 10 2012, 04:37 PM
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Trinity (Piledriver) Integer/FP Performance Higher Than Bulldozer, Clock-for-Clock


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UberPenguin
post Apr 11 2012, 02:04 PM
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Well its an improvement at least. I mean those figures are actually pretty good considering that the top end Trinity has a lower tdp WITH a gpu to heat it up and suck some more power, so maybe vishera wont be as anticlimactic as bulldozer.


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post Apr 12 2012, 12:37 PM
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Those integer scores are promising. And that's per GHz, so if they clock higher there'll be even more available performance.

Vishera 8,6,and 4 cores in Q3
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The eight-core version is expected to get to engineering sample in early Q2, so any day now, it should move to production candidate sample stage in early Q3 2012 and get to production ready and production status in Q3 2012.


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post Apr 17 2012, 01:03 PM
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http://vr-zone.com/articles/amd-to-survive...ill-/15564.html
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Talking about moving forward, the feel is that AMD is there to survive and thrive once again. Rather than repeating the bland statements of 'we don't want to compete in the high end, just on volume' which make no sense since a fabless company cannot compete on volumes against a competitor with seven large fabs at its disposal, this time there's clear indication that, after Piledriver, there will be substantial changes in both cores and system architecture from Steamroller onwards, that should help make AMD competitive closer to the top. I was told that delaying the socket migration beyond the AM3+, C32 and G34 to new socket is a good move,since AMD can design more aggressive, rather than stop gap, sockets for future platforms with better features like more memory and HyperTransport channels, as well as integrated PCIe v3, for greater future scalability. For the first time, some execs do acknowledge that Bulldozer approach may not have been the best one at the time, and things need to change. I was told that there is some good frequency scalability in the Piledriver core which should help gain some per-core performance ground.



http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/2...processors.html
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What should be kept in mind is that AMD's very first code-named Kaveri accelerated processing units with Steamroller x86 cores that will become available in 2013 will not feature fully-fledged Steamroller cores, but something better than Piledriver, but less advanced than the Steamroller cores found in the next-gen server and desktop platforms. AMD's current plans to not include Steamroller-class high-performance CPUs for next year, hence, the company will only be able to get back to high-end CPU-centric systems earlier than in 2014.



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post Apr 17 2012, 05:57 PM
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philo-sofa
post Apr 17 2012, 09:22 PM
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Well, admitting Bulldozer was, I'll say 'not a roaring success' lest I inflame emotions, is a good start - I wonder if the otherwise quite successful Dirk Meyer was canned because he failed to can Bulldozer. Certainly I like virtually everything Rory Read has done, he seems like a realist. He admitted they can't currently compete with Intel in the high-end performance sector but is concentrating well where AMD's CPU arm can currently win convincingly (Fusion) and in lockstep doing everything that can be done to make the underlying Bulldozer architecture better - I think principally with an eye for it as a part of Fusion rather than as a standalone part. And possibly doing a but of ARM designing on the side, which would mesh well with their GPU business for mobile devices (where they're unfortunately now also playing catchup to a significant to Nvidia).

So we've got the realism, good exploitation of where they can make money, and now possibly a plan for longer-term competition in the high end and performance-per-watt x86 space - in short a good strategy. Hopefully they do what they seem to have forgotten and turn over to the engineers and say 'ok sorry, your turn how should we go from here' for the tactical side.

Here's hoping.


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post Apr 20 2012, 01:38 AM
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QUOTE (philo-sofa @ Apr 17 2012, 07:22 PM) *
Well, admitting Bulldozer was, I'll say 'not a roaring success' lest I inflame emotions, is a good start - I wonder if the otherwise quite successful Dirk Meyer was canned because he failed to can Bulldozer. Certainly I like virtually everything Rory Read has done, he seems like a realist. He admitted they can't currently compete with Intel in the high-end performance sector but is concentrating well where AMD's CPU arm can currently win convincingly (Fusion) and in lockstep doing everything that can be done to make the underlying Bulldozer architecture better - I think principally with an eye for it as a part of Fusion rather than as a standalone part. And possibly doing a but of ARM designing on the side, which would mesh well with their GPU business for mobile devices (where they're unfortunately now also playing catchup to a significant to Nvidia).

So we've got the realism, good exploitation of where they can make money, and now possibly a plan for longer-term competition in the high end and performance-per-watt x86 space - in short a good strategy. Hopefully they do what they seem to have forgotten and turn over to the engineers and say 'ok sorry, your turn how should we go from here' for the tactical side.

Here's hoping.

Your still current av pic doesn't help the situation either. Bulldozer wasn't fantastic. But it was a step in the right direction. It's now a fundamental cornerstone of future releases.

AMD had to release something. They figured out how to improve it before it's release I'm betting, but it would have taken even longer. So they sent it out the door, and looked to the future. The Bulldozer still isn't a bad chip. Just not a great one. I had been mulling over getting one when they came down in price. But now I have a taste of Piledriver. I'll wait for that one I think. Or if when they release the 8150P comes down I might buy that.

QUOTE (mark84 @ Apr 12 2012, 10:37 AM) *
Those integer scores are promising. And that's per GHz, so if they clock higher there'll be even more available performance.

Vishera 8,6,and 4 cores in Q3
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The eight-core version is expected to get to engineering sample in early Q2, so any day now, it should move to production candidate sample stage in early Q3 2012 and get to production ready and production status in Q3 2012.


Hmmmm... lookin tastey. And really not that far away.


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post Apr 20 2012, 09:56 AM
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If that was a reply to me, I've volunteered out of reading things you post.


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post Apr 20 2012, 05:55 PM
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In honesty speaking and having the failed CPU in said computer, Bulldozer is a mixed bag. On one hand, it is definitely not as good as the Deneb or the Phenom chips before it. However, it does feel like a modern architecture compared to the K10 core which was built upon the K8 core etc etc. So I do think the Bulldozer architecture has legs to run as Trinity has shown so far.


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post Apr 20 2012, 06:27 PM
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Neither of your profile pics help hahaha :-P


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post Apr 20 2012, 09:36 PM
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QUOTE (nobody813 @ Apr 20 2012, 04:27 PM) *
Neither of your profile pics help hahaha :-P
Better?


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post Apr 20 2012, 10:04 PM
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Done.

QUOTE (sora3 @ Apr 20 2012, 07:55 PM) *
In honesty speaking and having the failed CPU in said computer, Bulldozer is a mixed bag. On one hand, it is definitely not as good as the Deneb or the Phenom chips before it. However, it does feel like a modern architecture compared to the K10 core which was built upon the K8 core etc etc. So I do think the Bulldozer architecture has legs to run as Trinity has shown so far.

How does a CPU 'feel' more modern, that's a pretty subjective measure?


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post Apr 20 2012, 10:37 PM
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Oh that is awesome. You guys just made my day haha

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post Apr 21 2012, 01:45 AM
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QUOTE (philo-sofa @ Apr 20 2012, 10:04 PM) *
How does a CPU 'feel' more modern, that's a pretty subjective measure?

The pins man, it's like modern acupuncture!


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