looking for a programmer, atomicians have first pref! Options

[coparofl]

any programmers / database admins looking for some freelance work? message me

looking for a young gun pref in uni looking for a bit of extra cash to code up a database for a mate.

[kikz]

needs more info. what db and programming language do you proprose this person use. Or is it a case of you have some requirements and don't care what it's implemented in?

Also, platform. I expect windows? do you want it web-based or desktop? Or again, don't care?


^As you can see, I'm over qualified for this position^ :p

This post has been edited by kikz: Jan 13 2012, 08:31 AM

[Charcoal]

I might be interested.

Throw me some details and I'll see what I can do.

[GL0Be]

I must warn you programmers are a VERY strange bunch indeed. Over the years I have inquired about the services of a programmer or two which never eventuated. Recently at work I met a chap who uses an editor program to get into the binary of BMW and Mercs and such to change the default computer settings of the vehicle. Basically tuning them. As always I fond out he is a programmer, I say I could use the services of a programmer and he's as keen as mustard. We exchange phone numbers, Skype info and that's the last I've heard from him ...

This is by no means the first time its happened either.

Like I said, programmers are a very strange bunch.

[.:Cyb3rGlitch:.]

Programmers are also a very busy bunch. Unless you actively contact them and give them rock solid details of what you want and when, you're just background noise.

[GL0Be]

Programmers are also a very busy bunch. Unless you actively contact them and give them rock solid details of what you want and when, you're just background noise.

And therein lies the problem. Like I said, strange bunch.

[.:Cyb3rGlitch:.]

And therein lies the problem. Like I said, strange bunch.

Not strange at all. You'd understand if you knew how complex it is to write software. It's not a case of "hey, I want X, make it". You need to provide detailed specifications, and you need to be serious about the job. If you're casually approaching them then chances are you're just going to waste their time, or change your mind half way. If you want the job done, make the effort to ring the guy and make plans to get the job officially planned and sorted. It's not a case of popping by and tapping a few keys, unless that's how engine management systems work, in which case you aren't talking about a programmer as we are here, just someone trained to use specialised tools to change software values.

Either way, most people don't like chasing up people to do them a favour. You've got to chase them up yourself.

[GL0Be]

I understand what your saying, but you dont know the full bit. Phone messages and at least two Skype messages and never got a reply. Your right about whether they are a programmer or not, as he never did anything for me, I just took his word that he could help me out. But like I said, its not the first time this has happened either, and I've been totally committed to getting the job done. They just never seem to follow up or maybe they where just being polite and didn't really want the job in the first place. Which I find strange. I mean its money after all. As for the complexities of the job, are you kidding me, MAJOR respect for the guys who have learned that craft. I could never do it, and I went to school and gave it a bash too. Not my idea of a good time. I never hounded someone, but I most definitely followed up, no use swapping numbers if I had intention of calling them. They just never replied. Which leaves me thinking they are a strange bunch - I hope you understand where I'm coming from.

This post has been edited by GL0Be: Jan 17 2012, 12:58 AM

[.:Cyb3rGlitch:.]

In that case, sounds like you've just had a bad run. They don't sound very professional. Are you sure these people are legit and not just pulling your leg to boost their ego?

This post has been edited by .:Cyb3rGlitch:.: Jan 17 2012, 01:30 AM

[SledgY]

I understand what your saying, but you dont know the full bit. Phone messages and at least two Skype messages and never got a reply. Your right about whether they are a programmer or not, as he never did anything for me, I just took his word that he could help me out. But like I said, its not the first time this has happened either, and I've been totally committed to getting the job done. They just never seem to follow up or maybe they where just being polite and didn't really want the job in the first place. Which I find strange. I mean its money after all. As for the complexities of the job, are you kidding me, MAJOR respect for the guys who have learned that craft. I could never do it, and I went to school and gave it a bash too. Not my idea of a good time. I never hounded someone, but I most definitely followed up, no use swapping numbers if I had intention of calling them. They just never replied. Which leaves me thinking they are a strange bunch - I hope you understand where I'm coming from.

So you have dealt in a rather strange way with one "programmer" and that translates to the massive generalisation of programmers being a strange bunch? Now that is strange...

From a software engineering background and having done a lot of contract work it's not just about the money. All contractors (not just software) learn to smell out a difficult contract, while you are being paid it's often not worth the stress. Dealing with somebody who doesn't actually know what they want, this is usually obvious when they are not able to articulate exactly what the project is about, what it's for or any of the major features.

Now back to the OP:
You will need to expand a little on what you are after, "code up a database" is like being asked to give an estimate of the length of a piece of string. Also give an range for the pay rate, is there going to be any on-going maintenance work also required.

[kikz]

From a software engineering background and having done a lot of contract work it's not just about the money. All contractors (not just software) learn to smell out a difficult contract, while you are being paid it's often not worth the stress. Dealing with somebody who doesn't actually know what they want, this is usually obvious when they are not able to articulate exactly what the project is about, what it's for or any of the major features.

Now back to the OP:
You will need to expand a little on what you are after, "code up a database" is like being asked to give an estimate of the length of a piece of string. Also give an range for the pay rate, is there going to be any on-going maintenance work also required.

+11111111111eleventymillion.

There's so much more to making software than the average joe thinks.