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Crossover Liquid Cooling, 2 x XFX 5870 Black Editions
corky
post Jan 21 2012, 10:37 AM
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As topic says crossfire cooling and I've always wanted to try it.

Does anyone here do it?

What do you use? rad/pump etc

How much?

Cooling the GPUs along with the CPU (Intel Core i7 960 - not over clocked at the moment anyway) able to do it? id imaging there'd be a fairly big rad involved lol

Any recommendations?


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Dasa
post Jan 21 2012, 11:56 AM
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plenty have done it
a 3x120 rad is big enough if you use slightly noisy fans or don mind it running a little warm when overclocked
imo a 4x120 rad is a nice size and goes well with scythe gentle typhoon 1440-1850rpm fans ~$150-200 for the both
for the pump there is swiftech mcp35x or a koolance 450 24v i think it is both ~$100

take a look in the parts guide there is some links to rather a lot of info
http://forums.atomicmpc.com.au/index.php?showtopic=13969


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NukeJockey
post Jan 21 2012, 01:09 PM
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It really depends on the room you have in your case, as dasa said you'll want atleast 3x120 but preferably 4x120 for cooling 2 GPUs and a CPU, especially if you plan to overclock.

If you want a neat build and you have reference design GPUs, you could pretty easily find some full cover blocks for them, then use a crossfire attachment in the loop to keep it looking neat.

It all depends on how much you are willing to spend, some people here have spent only a few hundred on their loops while others have spent close to or more than $1000, it was cheaper to import into Aus from America a few years back, don't know if its still the case, but it does seem hard to source some parts in aus now.


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corky
post Jan 21 2012, 01:47 PM
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pretty sure i would need a new case since the one im using now is too small anyway and just do a format/reinstall at the same time to start fresh. so as we speak im loong for cases with cooling ready to go (or something close)

edit
dasa - looking at the parts guide thing and the water cooling setup you had for your high end pc thats pretty much what i'd need to do this with, but looking at that i'd still need stuff to do the gfx cards with (and joiners/t's)

edit:
god this might take a while to get organised lol
case and cooking setup
>_<

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NukeJockey
post Jan 21 2012, 02:36 PM
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There are some nice cases out there that wont require any modding to fit some radiators in.

For example, the Xigmatek Elysium can fit a 3x120mm radiator, if you like the slightly more industrial look its something that would have plenty of space for WCing, especially if you stuck a 1x120mm radiator in there somewhere too, just for a little extra cooling.



Actually you can fit a 3x140mm down the bottom of the elysium, my guess is that would be more than enough.


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Dasa
post Jan 21 2012, 02:56 PM
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QUOTE (corky @ Jan 21 2012, 02:47 PM) *
dasa - looking at the parts guide thing and the water cooling setup you had for your high end pc thats pretty much what i'd need to do this with, but looking at that i'd still need stuff to do the gfx cards with (and joiners/t's)

fairly sure that list has everything you would need unless your 5870 cant keep the stock vrm\mem heatsinks when you attach the gpu block in which case you need to get some sinks and thermal adhesive

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corky
post Jan 21 2012, 03:23 PM
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that case nuke talked about looks pretty awesome - looks like it has plenty of room /cheer


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NukeJockey
post Jan 21 2012, 08:59 PM
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QUOTE (corky @ Jan 21 2012, 04:23 PM) *
that case nuke talked about looks pretty awesome - looks like it has plenty of room /cheer


I was thinking about doing a new build later this year, but it might just turn into a rebuild with a GPU upgrade (afterall, sandy is still awesome) and that is one of the cases I am looking at.


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p0is0n
post Jan 22 2012, 09:18 PM
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you can make your rad fit in any case depends how handy you are :)
I fit my 140.3 rad in a medium size case with some light dremel work.

you will need to really do your research before purchasing anything. you'll need blocks, reservoir, pump, radiator, fans, tubing, coolant or additives, fittings (compressions, rotaries, etc.) and possibly also some fasteners and that should get you started. you can spend more or less depending on looks and performance of each part.

its very satisfying once running :) but depending on your mentality, somewhat excessive and overpriced. I've probably spent more than a few hundred on my cooling so far, and i still need some full cover blocks for whatever new video cards i decide on. be warned it can be addictive tweaking and tweaking. feel free to check out my buildlog in the building & troubleshooting for my first noob attempt. have rebuilt it a few times since then hehe. /endpimp



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NukeJockey
post Jan 23 2012, 08:50 AM
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QUOTE (p0is(+)n @ Jan 22 2012, 10:18 PM) *
you can make your rad fit in any case depends how handy you are :)
I fit my 140.3 rad in a medium size case with some light dremel work.

you will need to really do your research before purchasing anything. you'll need blocks, reservoir, pump, radiator, fans, tubing, coolant or additives, fittings (compressions, rotaries, etc.) and possibly also some fasteners and that should get you started. you can spend more or less depending on looks and performance of each part.

its very satisfying once running :) but depending on your mentality, somewhat excessive and overpriced. I've probably spent more than a few hundred on my cooling so far, and i still need some full cover blocks for whatever new video cards i decide on. be warned it can be addictive tweaking and tweaking. feel free to check out my buildlog in the building & troubleshooting for my first noob attempt. have rebuilt it a few times since then hehe. /endpimp


Yeah my WCing so far has cost me about $1k.





I've had 4 different Rads, the first 120.3 I got came with the wrong screw sizes so I put a hole in it -.- then replaced it with the XSPC RX360, paid for a RS240 on Gammods but they sent out the RX240, so I had to cut my case up to fit it (Had arranged to go to a mates place one weekend to put my new WCing in Gammods package arrived on the friday, but it was the wrong bloody one) -.-

Thats roughly $400 right there

Then theres the $100 i spent on the pump, $150~ or so I've spent on tube, $50 on clamps, $100~ on barbs, $300-$350 on cpu/gpu blocks, the reservoirs I've had etc. etc. etc. etc.

Oh and also the $215 I originally spent on the Swiftech DRIVE220 rad/res/pump combo for my 2nd WCing setup (first WC setup was basically free thanks to dasa, wasn't good gear, just a heatercore and a pond pump that I swapped for a TRUE120 Black).

List goes on and on, WCing aint cheap unless you go with a kit, like some of the XSPC offerings.

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Dasa
post Jan 23 2012, 09:17 AM
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watercooling my pc has cost me ~1k which over 10 years is only about $100 a year


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GL0Be
post Jan 24 2012, 12:25 AM
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This might not sound like good advice, but after so many builds over the years, I just pick what I REALLY want. I was advised against going for a certain rad because of its size and complications with install, but I REALLY wanted that particular rad. If your prepared to do the work, you can make anything happen. I have a whole selection of watercooling gear here that I purchased that never made it into the build. Won't fit, doesn't look how I imagined it would, found something better, blah blah blah. That's half the fun of doing it yourself. If you want something to work from your first pop at watercooling, then buy a kit with everything you need and start small and simple. I can promise you, even then, there's no guarantees. That's the nature of the beast.

Getting as much advice as you can is good, learning as much as you can (in theory) is good too. But actually doing it is something else entirely. Even with all the knowledge and well made plans in the world, you'll still come up against obstacles over and over. Some people (like me) say "this is bullshit, that fkn part is supposed to fit, what is this piece of shit they've sold me ARGHHHHH!@!#!@@!" :P But I wouldn't change those sleepless nights, good money spent, swearing, cursing, spending more money, turning my house into a junkyard, pissing off my missus, and all the rest of it for nothing. Its awesome fun and as much as its stresses me out doing it, when its all complete I have a short moment of satisfaction, and wish I could start it all over again and do it BETTER than before. Its a sickness ...

Run now whilst you can is my advice. Sure a watercooled PC is awesome, but once your bitten by the bug, your life as you know it changed forever ...

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corky
post Jan 30 2012, 09:53 AM
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Atomican
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Sounds like an MMO lololol

But seriously i should really look into getting a larger case first and actually doing some proper cable management. But i think i'd enjoy that kinda of tinkering and having my comp room already look like a junk yard there won't be much difference :P.

In regard to research I've been reading and fast-forwarding thru some YouTube videos with people doing similar to what i want to to, some even go the 2 loop - which sounds like over kill but is handy to know.


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tunksy
post Mar 13 2012, 11:21 AM
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QUOTE (Dasa @ Jan 23 2012, 09:17 AM) *
watercooling my pc has cost me ~1k which over 10 years is only about $100 a year


you still need a new cpu block :P


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LoRd_DEiMoS
post Mar 14 2012, 10:52 AM
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The waterblocks for your video cards will be more than the cards are worth, also probably difficult to find...

I was looking to add another 5870 to my PC and watercool it in crossfire but after much research have found it to be a worthless idea.
Its a dead end, you're better off getting 1 HD7970 and adding that to a loop, it'll do better than the 5870s and eliminate the multi GPU errors alot of games have.

Of course its an expensive way to roll but so is watercooling, may as well do it right and have it last a few years.
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Dasa
post Mar 14 2012, 10:08 PM
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QUOTE (tunksy @ Mar 13 2012, 12:21 PM) *
QUOTE (Dasa @ Jan 23 2012, 09:17 AM) *
watercooling my pc has cost me ~1k which over 10 years is only about $100 a year


you still need a new cpu block :P

not really
sure its old and a new block may shave a few c off my load temps but i doubt that would help the overclock on any cpu i have had
it cost over $200 new made in au out of silver so it kinda has some sentimental value :)
mount plate required new holes for new mb but its just a mount plate thats what its for
if the mount on new mb changes to much then i will probably just make a new mount plate
only thing that would make me need a new block is if the cpu surface to be cooled was no longer flat or if the core gets to big

my first water setup cost $300 secondhand but i am no longer using any of those parts

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