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  1. Ordered a bunch of stuff, look forward to putting it all together once it all arrives. CPU Ryzen 5 3600x (Should be all I need for gaming mostly) MB ASUS TUF x570 Wifi (Looks to have good vrm) RAM 4x8 G.Skills Ripjaws V 3600 c16 -19-19-39 (Hope that I can tighten the timings, was on sale and thought I read of advantages of running quad) GPU RTX 2070 Super (Blower style, HP Omen series I believe. Got it off ebay for around 5700XT prices so thought I'd go with it. Plus was having crashes with 5700XT when playing World of Warships and it was pissing me off a bit. Other games worked fine though.) SSD 1x NVMe SX8200 Pro 512gb, 2x SSD Mushkin 1tb (Wanted to get different sizes/qty but did it this way to get more paid back) PSU EVGA SuperNova 1000 PQ (Overkill but was on sale) CASE Phanteks Enthoo Pro Tempered Glass (Went full size to make it easier to work inside) LOOP EK Classic RGB P360 Kit (Pump looks to be only ok but not a d5. Might look to add a gpu block later. Ordered some extra fitting and a drain valve) MONITOR LG 32GK650G-B G-Sync 31.5" 2560x1440p 144hz (Was 50% off and wanted to try g-sync monitor, its also flat which I wanted to go back to.) Some things I had to order a certain way to get depreciation value back from insurance, like the water kit... I couldn't piece it together and needed to be a single item purchase. Basically, they say it's worth for example ~350 but its 5 years old so we will give you ~125, but if you buy it again and turn in receipt, we will give you up to $350-125(that was already paid). But my old 3700x cpu, they didn't depreciate it much and gave me nearly the current price it is going for, so I just got a lesser priced 3600x that was on sale this last week and used that money on other parts of the build. Tried to get everything on sale for this build and play the numbers game. I did order a cheap gpu AIO water block but not sure if it will fit what I have or if it will do good. Im going to test with the blower first then try it out later. It has aluminum and copper mixed so it wont last all that long but it was cheap to play with and might be able to use parts of it later or just connect the block part to EK kit but yea need to check on that. http://www.idcooling.com/Product/detail/id/134/name/FROSTFLOW 120VGA Should be a fun build, can't wait to run it thru the benchmarks
  2. gamble

    New Gaming Build

    My house was robbed and my pc's and many other thing were taken Yea it was a quick buy and didn't do any research on them. But was only slight higher than 2x8gb kit with better timings. I've seen how quad channel can sometimes give a boost in games depending on if ttop or daisy which I'm trying to figure out which this mb has. I thought Gamers Nexus had a dual vs quad on both types but can seem to find it. Wanted to play with quad channel some too as all my gaming rig have always been 2x8gb lately.
  3. Video is all you should need to upgrade, still a great cpu that you could OC too. Looking at most charts, even a rtx 2070 Super should be just fine for 1440p with mostly ultra settings. https://www.techpowerup.com/review/msi-geforce-rtx-2070-super-gaming-z-trio/29.html https://www.techpowerup.com/review/msi-geforce-rtx-2070-super-gaming-z-trio/29.html Might be the better buy for cost/performance.
  4. Well I came across a possible deal on ebay for a rtx 2070 super... It was priced at around the 5700xt range... Thing is, it is a HP 2070 Super per the listing... I cannot seem to find any pictures or model information on this card. I bought it on a chance that it really is a super model even if a blower model. I can find a few image of a HP 2080, which per my listing looks the same. Another weird thing is the images he uploaded had a few benchmarks but they mentioned 2080S... So, there is some variables with this purchase, fingers crossed
  5. I'm think of going hard tubes next... ^ It looks great. I do like the ease of use on flex tubes so not sure yet. I like the open case but I think it might be somewhat loud, no?
  6. Nice score, AMD seems to like this bench. Core clock is up there! How's temps at high clocks on gpu/cpu?
  7. Yea I agree on the gpu. Probably will go cheap even a 580 would probably do. Not sure if I will go tiny or large. I did find that most of the time I wished I had more room to get cards in around tubes and such. I side upgrade more than most just to play around. Probably go full size atx. I haven't built a ground up pc in years. It has always had repurpose of parts. I can't really say what I want to go with until I get some $$ from insurance. Ill probably go with AMD again but might see what Intel is priced out now a days too. The thing I like about Intel is being able to OC. With Ryzen, it is all just with Ram and Infinity to gain. Ill probably go water again with either setup... I have not researched AIO or separate kits from say EK in a long time. Anyone have any good links comparing? Probably will not put the video card under water since most run pretty cool now. -- My sons pc was taken too, so will probably use my 2600x and Hynix ram that they didn't take. He had an Asrock itx Fatality mb and a smaller mid atx case. He loves rgb so will configure something for him on that too. Son's PC: CPU: 2600x (reuse) Cooler: Need a cooler since I dont have one anymore, the wraith was great since it had rgb. If I go with AMD on my build, I can use it. RAM: 2x 8gb EVGA SC 3200 (reuse) Case: Looking for something with a window and RGB lights, mid tower PSU: 600w or less (550 B3 from EVGA he had before) semi or full modular GPU: 580 or 1060 (had a 580 before, guess this will depend on ebay as used is fine) Fans: If case doesnt have fans that are rgb SSD: 1tb SSD, nvme will probably cost too much and this should be fine. Any SSD would probably do. MB: probably b450 or cheap x470 For this build, I do not want to go highend but more for the "bling" factor with lights. The last case had a horrible layout and was difficult to even close the right side with all the psu cables and such (DIYPC Crystal-D2-RGB Black). He might want the same case though as he keeps saying he doesn't want a new pc but wants his old one... Any suggestions on the above?
  8. House was robbed.... Glad you make these part list, great reference... Sucks as I finally had everything the way I wanted, now not sure what parts I'll go with for a new build.
  9. gamble

    Fan arrangement

    I use to have that card and it ran cool when set in MSI Afterburner to 65% fan curve at 60c. Might try that, it was pretty quiet to me at that %.
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    Fan arrangement

    Looks like you can add one more to the front of the chassis. You would want to have that flow "in" like the other front fan. Do you have the fans connected to the motherboard or with a fan controller? If so, they might only be set to a low setting like silent and if the CPU is cold, it might not be requesting for the case fans to rev up. Like I have my case fans set to my cpu temp (cpu fan optional port), they dont go up unless the cpu temp does but that might hurt if my cpu is running really cool and my gpu is being pegged. Manually setting the low side fan curve for the case fans (from say 300rpm to 700rpm) might be the way to go or move the fan setting to standard or turbo from silent. Is your gpu blower style? You could try to replace the TIM too on the gpu.
  11. Do you have to buy it? Any demo? Didnt find one in a quick search.
  12. Yea nice that you mentioned as others might learn from it we all do something like this at times... On water I see spikes to 67c at times but I have my fans for rad on low, you are still running really good temps for sure
  13. gamble

    Navi Confirmed: 2019

    Yea, it almost appears that it was near the end of the life for that mill's teeth... Still really surprise at how much that helped, possibly mount pressure and TIM helped too. Looks like Ive reached the limit of the chip at around 2070mhz stable before crashes. For now Im just going to keep it at 2025mhz with +30% powerlimit, as this is the sweet spot. It will run about the same temps as stress testing but will fluctuate to seemingly to maintain 70c core and 90c junction. Still having some driver issues when trying to manually set the fan curve so I just let it do its thing but thought it was interesting how the fan was curving differently than stress tests as games do not stress it as hard. I see the fan kicks on in games up to 50%, temps will start to fall, fan curve would lower and repeat. Id like to be able to kick the fan curve to 50% at 60c and just let it run cool as 50% fan is low noise level. I might just lap all heatsinks moving forward, definitely need some lower grit to start off with or you spend hours like I did
  14. gamble

    USB dropping out with wheel

    Might be port going to sleep/suspend mode: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.windowscentral.com/how-prevent-windows-10-turning-usb-devices%3famp
  15. Sounds like a bad mount or maybe you can change the fan profile. You can try the wrath cooler too to compare. It is quite a good cooler actually and use this on my sons pc.
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    Navi Confirmed: 2019

    So I figured I go ahead and replace the tim. PCB: VRM: Heatsink: Then I saw these horrible grooves.... Couldn't believe how rough it was! I couldn't just put tim on, I knew I would be taking it off again if I did. 2hrs later using 2000 and 1500 grit, it was all I had, there is still some lite scratches, but i would need to take off quite a bit more to get those. There was two really bad machine marks going thru the center area... At least it is smooth now and doesn't grab with my nail.... How much this has helped, I don't know yet. Been awhile since I had to lap anything. Nearly the same cooler as what was on the 2080, but I guess the tooling was getting to the point of needing replaced, well at least imho. Same but the 5700xt is slightly thicker: Edit.. WOW! Junction is down a solid 20c! It is most the time around 90 to 89c, it hit 93 for like a second running higher clocks. This is running the 50mhz higher than "yellow" setting in my previous tests: FireStrike Extreme Stress Test 20 loops. Core: ~2000mhz (Setting it to 2060mhz runs load around 50mhz less), very little fluctuation Volts: 1.181 to 1.2v little fluctuation Power: +20% Core temp: 70c max 68 to 69c mostly Junction: mostly 90c or less, a few jumps but not much. The only bad is the memory is 2c higher at times.. possibly the pads were not put back on perfectly. Super happy with results but now I need to retest everything ----- Edit 2: Seems like the tim is really working in now after a few runs. Im running out of time today to test much more but lapping really helped, wish I did it sooner! FireStrike Extreme Stress Test 20 loops. Core: ~2050mhz (Setting it to 2100mhz runs load around 50mhz less), very little fluctuation Volts: 1.2v solid Power: +50% Core temp: 70c max 68 to 69c mostly Junction: mostly 91c or less, a few jumps but not much.
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    Navi Confirmed: 2019

    So, I tried 1.181v with 30% @ 2000mhz and looked great thru much of the run but ended up crashing. Volts and clocks were stable with junction reaching 104-108c... It was worth a try, thx for mentioning Dasa
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    Navi Confirmed: 2019

    This is pretty cool, great results: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/flashing-amd-radeon-rx-5700-with-xt-bios-performance-guide/
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    Navi Confirmed: 2019

    Hmmm I'll try that volt as I'm running lower clock and should not need as much. Using FireStrike extreme stress test. I'll try 2000mhz to at 30% and 1.18v too.
  20. gamble

    Navi Confirmed: 2019

    Gigabyte released a new bios for my card that give +500rpm on the fan. Ive been doing lots of testing and comparing different results for temp, junction temp, volts and clocks. Basically, if I set higher than 20% on power limit, then it will hit junction temp quicker and will fluctuate the core and volts more. Ive tested with Firestrike stress test that does 20 loops which give you gaming boosts. Red highlight is stock: Core: 1800 to 1900mhz, lots of fluctuation. Volts: never reach 1.2v Power: 0% offset Core temp: 67c Junction: under 95c Yellow highlight: Core: 1920mhz to 1965mhz, very little fluctuation and usually around 1950mhz Volts: 1.181 to 1.2v little fluctuation Power: +20% Core temp: 72c Junction: under 105 to 109c Green highlight: Core: 1900mhz to 1964mhz, fluctuation Volts: 1.16 to 1.2v fluctuation Power: +15% Core temp: 71c Junction: under 105 to 109c It seems for this card to get the most consistent core clock, mainly due to temp of junction, +20% on the power is the best. This runs the core the closest to my target gaming clock of 1950mhz. It also allows for the voltage to run much flatter. Over +20% power just means Ill hit 110c on junction, but +20% is 105 - 109c most of the time and basically the thermal limit before measures kick in to cool it. Sure I can do +50% on power and run the core clock higher but it will jump all over the place for core mhz once it heats up. +50% is great for short runs like benchmarking as it will not get that hot for too long so it will run the +2050mhz. It is when you try to do anything longer, like gaming, that it will cause much more drops in clocks. I find that the yellow to be the overall best for everyday on this particular card. If I had it under water, I could get the junction down and probably run it closer to 2100mhz without fluctuations but I dont think it will be much of a performance gain in real world, probably under 5%, more like 3%. Glad GB released this bios update for a bit higher fan profile as Afterburner and Wattman just do not work right when trying to mess with fan profiles. Any really cheap waterblocks for this card? Everything Ive seen just doesn't seem worth it being over $100 US. At that point I should have got a 2070 super, so that is why I hesitate to even get a block. Maybe a universal? But would again need to be cheap or second hand....
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    Navi Confirmed: 2019

    5700xt vs 2080 both OC'ed Metro Exodus: This card Im quite happy with. For 1440p gaming and being close to more expensive cards, its a good buy. Really think I should have got the 5700 and did the bios mod. Just wish I could play with the fan profile without the flickering. Im sure that will be fixed eventually. BFV runs really good and Metro runs good... I didn't run ray with either of those games when I have 2080 as it is taxing so just another reason why it didnt hurt much for me to down grade.
  22. gamble

    AMD Zen

    wow he spent some time working on that breakdown and nice results. I like the aida stuff so I can compare against. I wonder why he didn't do 1:1 for his 3600 c14 test, it made his latency horrible. The two 3800 c12 and c15 test are quite amazing. 4000 test @ 2:1 not quite as good, copy is up but at the expense of latency. Looks like he got a good set of kits!
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    Navi Confirmed: 2019

    Ive been playing around with my RX 5700XT and it seems to be a great card, especially for the price. I can OC it decently but much over 2000mhz it doesn't seem to add much do to temp. The memory I can max at 925-950mhz which from what I read is rare. The core temp is under 70c and usually around 65c but the "hot spot or junction" gets up to 110c with OC and hovers around 100c with a mild OC. This will throttle the card at that point. It not like there is an issue as most cards will hit this, just it needs to be under water to really unleash the true potential. BFV runs smoother and just as many frames as my RTX 2080. Even though the RTX 2080 does the same frames... the 5700xt runs better and literally can tell and feels less choppy. Im running the same settings. Issues: This one is known but if you use MSI afterburner and try to use custom fan curve, it will make the screen flicker. Another issue I ran into a few times is running less intensive games like World of Warships, it will sometimes try to jump the clocks way too high, like 2400mhz which will crash the game.. possibly since I had afterburner running so testing without it running. Its strange since that game usually runs really low clocks as it just doesn't need a lot of gpu. My hope was to be able to get 9500 graphics score with Timespy and I have been able to get this with ~2050mhz core and 950mhz memory. Firestrike it does really well but cant match the VII or 2080 still: Timespy: https://www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/8679648/spy/8030996 FS: https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/20068095/fs/20572601 Ill probably end up replacing the TIM to see if that helps some but really it is running well and seems they built it into it to hit those temps to give best clocks and noise level, this was a good article: https://www.extremetech.com/gaming/296577-why-110-degree-temps-are-normal-for-amds-radeon-5700-5700-xt Edit: Running BFV for hours at stock settings gives 65c with junction usually under 90c. That give around 1875 to 1925mhz on the core. That is with fan on auto or 1950rpm gaming.
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    Navi Confirmed: 2019

    Nah, 5700 xt does good with 1440p especially with the games I play. Feel like the 2080 is going to lose value here soon... A bit of me wanted an all AMD rig too
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    Navi Confirmed: 2019

    I purchased a RX 5700 XT Gigabyte Gaming OC and should be here late this week. Something new to play with and pocket some extra cash from my RTX 2080 sale. Looks like similar heatsink as on my 2080 Gigabyte. Only could find a few reviews for it, one being from Gamers Nexus, looks like a good card. https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3509-gigabyte-rx-5700-xt-gaming-oc-review-benchmark
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