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  1. Looks like some leaks are starting to come out. If those specs hold true, could really perform. https://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/3224/geforce-gtx-1180 https://wccftech.com/rumor-nvidia-turing-gaming-gpus-launching-in-july-to-replace-pascal-geforce-lineup-ampere-to-succeed-volta-in-hpc/
  2. gamble

    Nvidia - Turing/Volta

    2060 KO has 2080 die...
  3. Stock Ram 3600mhz/1800mhz Infinity (1:1) it is usually 71-72ns on latency. 3733/1867 (1:1) give 68ns latency. I tried a few things, set my ram to 3600mhz and then the Infinity to 1867mhz... My latency went way up to 78ns. I might play around with removing 2x sticks for some comparison tests...
  4. When I was building my rig, I went with 4x dimms and a 3600x to try 4x dimms as I always do 2x8gb... It was that or 3700x with 2x dimms to keep in my budget. I remember Gamers Nexus mentioning some advantages with 4x but really from my old rig to this one, it feels the same when gaming. Possibly, since I have 4x dimms is why I cant go above 3733 as the article mentions that 3600mhz could be stressful on the controller. Really curious if 4x dual rank sticks are any different from 4x single rank dimms.
  5. Thx! So, this is stock setting on everything with all my crap running in the background: --------[ Memory Read ]------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6x Ryzen 5 3600X HT 4400 MHz Asus TUF Gaming X570-Plus (Wi-Fi) X570 Dual DDR4-3600 16-19-19-39 CR1 50348 MB/s --------[ Memory Write ]------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 6x Ryzen 5 3600X HT 4300 MHz Asus TUF Gaming X570-Plus (Wi-Fi) X570 Dual DDR4-3600 16-19-19-39 CR1 28728 MB/s --------[ Memory Copy ]------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6x Ryzen 5 3600X HT 4300 MHz Asus TUF Gaming X570-Plus (Wi-Fi) X570 Dual DDR4-3600 16-19-19-39 CR1 50809 MB/s --------[ Memory Latency ]---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ryzen 5 3600X 4400 MHz Asus TUF Gaming X570-Plus (Wi-Fi) X570 Dual DDR4-3600 16-19-19-39 CR1 72.0 ns --------[ CPU Queen ]--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6x Ryzen 5 3600X HT 4342 MHz Asus TUF Gaming X570-Plus (Wi-Fi) X570 Dual DDR4-3600 16-19-19-39 CR1 78233 --------[ CPU PhotoWorxx ]---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6x Ryzen 5 3600X HT 4300 MHz Asus TUF Gaming X570-Plus (Wi-Fi) X570 Dual DDR4-3600 16-19-19-39 CR1 26448 MPixel/s --------[ CPU ZLib ]---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6x Ryzen 5 3600X HT 4300 MHz Asus TUF Gaming X570-Plus (Wi-Fi) X570 Dual DDR4-3600 16-19-19-39 CR1 630.4 MB/s --------[ CPU AES ]----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6x Ryzen 5 3600X HT 4242 MHz Asus TUF Gaming X570-Plus (Wi-Fi) X570 Dual DDR4-3600 16-19-19-39 CR1 55887 MB/s --------[ CPU SHA3 ]---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6x Ryzen 5 3600X HT 4242 MHz Asus TUF Gaming X570-Plus (Wi-Fi) X570 Dual DDR4-3600 16-19-19-39 CR1 1896 MB/s --------[ FPU Julia ]--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6x Ryzen 5 3600X HT 4267 MHz Asus TUF Gaming X570-Plus (Wi-Fi) X570 Dual DDR4-3600 16-19-19-39 CR1 60026 --------[ FPU Mandel ]-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6x Ryzen 5 3600X HT 4242 MHz Asus TUF Gaming X570-Plus (Wi-Fi) X570 Dual DDR4-3600 16-19-19-39 CR1 31816 --------[ FPU SinJulia ]------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 6x Ryzen 5 3600X HT 4367 MHz Asus TUF Gaming X570-Plus (Wi-Fi) X570 Dual DDR4-3600 16-19-19-39 CR1 10930 --------[ FP32 Ray-Trace ]---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6x Ryzen 5 3600X HT 4200 MHz Asus TUF Gaming X570-Plus (Wi-Fi) X570 Dual DDR4-3600 16-19-19-39 CR1 11815 KRay/s --------[ FP64 Ray-Trace ]---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6x Ryzen 5 3600X HT 4142 MHz Asus TUF Gaming X570-Plus (Wi-Fi) X570 Dual DDR4-3600 16-19-19-39 CR1 6640 KRay/s If I bump it up to 3733mhz on the ram/infinity I can get down to 68ns. I added a DIMM cooler but didn't help with OC so far.
  6. Could you please run aida64 memory benchmark? Curious on what latency you get
  7. gamble

    New Gaming Build

    Added Alseye PWM Dimm cooler. My sticks don't report temps but when running p95, cpu is almost 4c cooler while running the cooler at 50%. A bit surprised since I have good air flow. Still messing around to see if it helps with OC on Dimms.
  8. Ordered a bunch of stuff, look forward to putting it all together once it all arrives. CPU Ryzen 5 3600x (Should be all I need for gaming mostly) MB ASUS TUF x570 Wifi (Looks to have good vrm) RAM 4x8 G.Skills Ripjaws V 3600 c16 -19-19-39 (Hope that I can tighten the timings, was on sale and thought I read of advantages of running quad) GPU RTX 2070 Super (Blower style, HP Omen series I believe. Got it off ebay for around 5700XT prices so thought I'd go with it. Plus was having crashes with 5700XT when playing World of Warships and it was pissing me off a bit. Other games worked fine though.) SSD 1x NVMe SX8200 Pro 512gb, 2x SSD Mushkin 1tb (Wanted to get different sizes/qty but did it this way to get more paid back) PSU EVGA SuperNova 1000 PQ (Overkill but was on sale) CASE Phanteks Enthoo Pro Tempered Glass (Went full size to make it easier to work inside) LOOP EK Classic RGB P360 Kit (Pump looks to be only ok but not a d5. Might look to add a gpu block later. Ordered some extra fitting and a drain valve) MONITOR LG 32GK650G-B G-Sync 31.5" 2560x1440p 144hz (Was 50% off and wanted to try g-sync monitor, its also flat which I wanted to go back to.) Some things I had to order a certain way to get depreciation value back from insurance, like the water kit... I couldn't piece it together and needed to be a single item purchase. Basically, they say it's worth for example ~350 but its 5 years old so we will give you ~125, but if you buy it again and turn in receipt, we will give you up to $350-125(that was already paid). But my old 3700x cpu, they didn't depreciate it much and gave me nearly the current price it is going for, so I just got a lesser priced 3600x that was on sale this last week and used that money on other parts of the build. Tried to get everything on sale for this build and play the numbers game. I did order a cheap gpu AIO water block but not sure if it will fit what I have or if it will do good. Im going to test with the blower first then try it out later. It has aluminum and copper mixed so it wont last all that long but it was cheap to play with and might be able to use parts of it later or just connect the block part to EK kit but yea need to check on that. http://www.idcooling.com/Product/detail/id/134/name/FROSTFLOW 120VGA Should be a fun build, can't wait to run it thru the benchmarks
  9. https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3508-ryzen-3000-memory-benchmark-best-ram-fclk-uclock-mclock https://edgeup.asus.com/2019/how-to-get-the-most-out-of-third-gen-ryzen-cpus-and-the-x570-platform/ might help getting started ^
  10. For the ram, I would try keeping the timings you have currently that docp/xmp has set... Then move the infinity and ram bandwidth up at the same time. In asus bios for infinity, divide ram bandwidth by 2, so if you set you ram to 3400, set infinity to 1700. Do tests and then try 3600 ram and 1800 infinity. I'd keep going till it won't post, then tighten timings. Cpu-z will show them matched for ram/infinity under memory tab. There's benefits for raising the ram and infinity with most being able to run the infinity to at least 3600/1800, but you might have to loosen the ram timings as you raise bandwidth. The infinity limit is 1900 for most all chips and the 2 I have tried could "only" go to 3733/1867. You might want to set you ram boot voltage on your ram to what you have your ram voltage. Also, might need to raise ram voltage as you move up. I'm not sure the safe limits if your is micron chips but usually 1.45v should be safe from default of 1.35v. Pbo only gives like 25-75mhz more even with water for all core stress tests. But then you use much more power. AMD sees more from ram/infinity.
  11. PC looks great! Who cares what is behind it all with the cables and such Could always get some different fans later, the Noctua redux has a good look I went with too. But eh, it is fine as is. And when you are ready, this might be out by then: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/adata-sage-ssd-unveiled
  12. So you have everything now? Which board and psu you go with? Have fun!
  13. gamble

    Navi Confirmed: 2019

    Yea and the price of 5700 is at times just a bit more than this with sales. I wonder if aib partners will be this price too. So maybe we have to wait until rdna2 or maybe they waiting for nvidia next ampere before releasing.
  14. Will need to get ddr4, ddr3 is not supported on ryzen. You might be able to get a bracket for the Noctua for am4 socket?
  15. You can use just the 8pin, the 4pin is used in extreme OC cases. I cant remember which of my ryzen/mb I ran with just the single 8pin but it worked fine. But plz double check with the vendor or maybe someone else can confirm. I just know ran it without the extra 4pin in the past. I did order another cable to have both connected to try to see if it would help OC... But ryzen works best when left alone in most cases. Ram tweaking seems to help much more and running 1:1 ratio with the infinity/ram.
  16. So, that MB has a CPU and CPU Optional, both look to be 4pin PWM. Maybe run a Y splitter from the CPU to the D15's and use the CPU Optional for the fanhub. This way your D15 will be synced up and case fans on it's own signal. pg. 5 https://download.gigabyte.com/FileList/Manual/mb_manual_x570-aorus-pro-wifi_v2_e.pdf
  17. gamble

    AMD Zen

    Ouch, that's like a 1/3 more per core compared to 3900x! It is linear compared to the other threadrippers.
  18. You will probably have better support with a x570 board long-term. Remember that Ryzen needs bios updates and it might be better in the long run to go x570. If you look to upgrade later with the next Ryzen release, possibly x570 will have more features that are supported. I nearly went for a Asus crosshair hero vii x470 again but the Asus TUF x570 wifi has been great for cheaper price. If planning to keep 3700x for 5 years then B450 or x470 could save some. Idk if anyone can really tell the difference from a good Gen3 pci x4 nvme vs Gen4 nvme besides stats. (I wasn't planning on using wifi/Bluetooth on my pc but it has been amazing for transferring files and other things)
  19. Depending on what you will be doing with your PC, you might be able to snag a 2000 series cpu until the next wave hits of the 4000 series and save some $. Even a used eBay deal for a 2600 or 2700. It will still be fast and offsets the price for another year for cpu. Edit: PSU, target a 600w which should be enough for almost any build unless you go 2080 ti
  20. gamble

    Navi Confirmed: 2019

    https://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-rx-navi-21-gpu-2x-performance-5700-xt-die-size-rumor/amp/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/wccftech.com/nvidia-next-gen-ampere-gpu-50-percent-faster-twice-efficient-than-turing/amp/ Hmmm
  21. gamble

    New Gaming Build

    Final pics with Noctua fans in. Used a Y splitter, 1x on the gpu rad and 1x on the bottom of chassis under the cpu pump/res. I have them set at 1300rpm (1700rpm is the max) running all the time. This speed is really quiet and still gives top temps or 57c when stress testing. The bottom fan should help feed in some air for the gpu when the cpu has low load/temps. Few final pics... Really wish I had some different fittings a few 90 and 45 degree. Ill probably do that when I drain it next time. Glass open, lights off: Glass open, lights on, room lights on: (pics can only do so much.. in person much better) Glass closed: (yea it just looks much better than this shows) This one was just fun, feel like I had plenty of room to do what I wanted with room to change things up in the future. This might have been my favor build as most of the time I would reuse as much as I could so haven't done a complete rebuild in quite some time.
  22. gamble

    New Gaming Build

    Very interesting, thx for the info. Currently have them running at 1.43v @ 3733mhz over +500% memtestpro, guess I should count myself lucky Latency is 68.1-68.9ns per aida64 depending on the run or what I have open. Can't boot 3800mhz with these timings and still can't touch timings or locks requiring cmos reset. Thought about getting another one of those Alsyse* Dimm coolers. It really worked well for the previous kit. Turned off PBO as I was getting nearly the same with it off, with heavy load maybe +25~50mhz. Temps with p95 small FFT (max power) gives 75c after 15mins(spikes to 77c when bench first starts before fans rev up). Usually in the 60s when gaming.. Used Thermal Grizzly for the CPU. Stress testing the gpu usually has spikes up to 57c, a few times Ive seen 58c but mostly for gaming it is 51-53c after hours. It still kinda is surprising that this 120mm rad/AIO combo actually does an amazing job. It was really easy to assemble too. Curious of how it will do with the Noctua... Used Gelid GC Extreme on the core. Ive settled on gpu clocks of +115 2055mhz core/+1000mhz vram(16gbs). My Hyperborea on the gpu rad is acting up, this is the reason I went ahead and ordered a 2x more Noctua fans. RPMs will rev up and down at times.... I wanted another intake fan too so should work out with one bottom mounted under the cpu pump/res. It should help balance since currently there is 4x 120mm fans pushing out over rads but only 2x 140mm front intakes. Side note on TIMs... First time using Grizzly Kryonaut. I really liked how easy it was to apply, seems about the same consistency of Gelid GC. I used Gelid on the gpu since I had a bit left and it kinda thick so I can put exactly where I want it and didnt want to chip the core. Kryonaut would have worked out fine too, but wanted to go with something I am use to. Really both are great products but wanted to support Der8auer as I subscribe to him.
  23. gamble

    New Gaming Build

    Yea looks like Hynix... Not too familiar with DJR version... Thaiphoon shows as M-Die, is that DJR? Is the same rule for volts on Hynix, usually good up to 1.45v with 1.5v if good cooling or is that only for B-die? @Dasa On the previous bios when I enabled PBO, I would see 2x cores hit 4450mhz, 2x 4425mhz and 2x 4400mhz. With the latest bios, 2x 4425mhz, 2x 4400mhz and 2x 4375mhz with PBO enabled. Both gave the same bench results. Timespy was able to break into the top 20 for 3600x/2070 super combo. Only need like 75 more total points for top spot but I can't seem to get much more out of it... Timings just lock the system up even on new bios, can move bandwidth still and 3733mhz seems much more stable. I have 2x Noctua NF-P12 redux fans coming in. Going to replace the one on the gpu aio rad and place the other under the bracket for the pump/res combo. These are the black/grey version not the ugly Noctua normal
  24. Sell one of your cards and psu to help pay for replacement parts? Maybe try your cpu in your bros pc before buying more parts? Try booting with 1 stick of ram in, in different spots. Try to clear bios cmos again by removing the power cord and cmos battery, usually there is a jumper but some have a button you can click.