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Chaos.Lady last won the day on June 18 2019

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  1. Chaos.Lady

    The coronavirus conspiracy

    I'm a little confused by this. What kind of meat based toilet paper do you usually use???
  2. Chaos.Lady

    The coronavirus conspiracy

    I love the action of directly ignoring various posts that support my position and are against other peoples. I think I'll leave this one as I have no desire to continue to argue with someone who gets to a personal level of accusing me of insulting them and being mental. *back to hibernation - WITHOUT A MASK because I don't agree with taking them away from people who actually need them - I go.
  3. Chaos.Lady

    The coronavirus conspiracy

    For those caring for the sick, the guideline is to wear masks. The sick will cough on you etc etc. But medics should be wearing N95 masks and face shields, of which there is a shortage. As stated above, masks help stop the spread once you are sick and help you not catch it if you are in close contact. They don’t help if you aren’t sick (before you show symptoms) or have casual contact.
  4. Chaos.Lady

    The coronavirus conspiracy

    The point is that if you aren't sick, you aren't coughing and sneezing - which is what mainly spreads the droplets. Anything you breathe is probably gonna be small enough to get through a mask anyway. Yes, you MIGHT have infected people before you develop symptoms - but that's most likely contact infection rather than aerosol. Masks won't help that.
  5. Chaos.Lady

    The coronavirus conspiracy

    Another article on face masks. https://time.com/5794729/coronavirus-face-masks/ Essentially it says - they ONLY help if you are already sick (coughing and sneezing) to help stop particles. They do little for a healthy person in stopping them catching it. So rather than use masks - if you are sick don't go out. Don't bother with a mask. Just don't leave the house. That will ensure the safety of others a lot better than a poorly fitted or maintained mask.
  6. Chaos.Lady

    The coronavirus conspiracy

    from https://www.who.int/publications-detail/advice-on-the-use-of-masks-in-the-community-during-home-care-and-in-healthcare-settings-in-the-context-of-the-novel-coronavirus-(2019-ncov)-outbreak Wearing a medical mask is one of the prevention measures that can limit the spread of certain respiratory diseases, including COVID-19. However, the use of a mask alone is insufficient to provide an adequate level of protection, and other measures should also be adopted. A medical mask is not required for people who are not sick as there is no evidence of its usefulness in protecting them. However, masks might be worn in some countries, in accordance with local cultural habits. If masks are used, best practices should be followed about how to wear, remove, and dispose of them, and for hand hygiene after removal. More: https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public/when-and-how-to-use-masks This is an interesting article centred around H1N1 which has some validity for the subject: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3373043/
  7. Chaos.Lady

    Is weird for a 28M to date a 21F?

    It included the word “ring” which I believe was the focus of the back door comment.
  8. Chaos.Lady

    The coronavirus conspiracy

    I'm not decrying the use of masks, except to say that there is a shortage, so don’t go out and deprive medical people of them. As for the DIY ones, sure. If it makes you feel better, go for it. But don’t expect not to catch it just because you wore a mask. As for the use of masks being pointless, I’m only going on the latest advice. The WHO are now saying they might have a “small effect”. Cool. But they also say that DIY are next to useless. So logistically, universal mask wearing is out of reach. So why worry about something that can’t happen?
  9. Chaos.Lady

    The coronavirus conspiracy

    Yes, there is confusion. But a little research fixes that. The teeshirt is the same principle as the scarf. Both are uncomfortable and neither works very well. No, I don't believe I'm overstating the danger of aerosol. Its as dangerous as the surface version. Surface stays around longer - true. But both carry the high risk of transmission. The comment of it lingering in the air for 30 minutes is from one of the public health sites. It stays on surfaces for days. Best bet - don't go outside unless its critical. Then masks and the rest become irrelevant.
  10. Chaos.Lady

    The coronavirus conspiracy

    I just realised that you believe I'm thinking of being the protectee not the protector. That it's the person who sneezes wearing the mask that helps effectiveness, not the one who is being sneezed at. And you are partly right. It helps a little. But particles from a sneeze WILL get through a mask - either coming out or going in. And that's the problem. Yes, it picks up SOME of the larger bits going out. But that doesn't stop the micron stuff in the air that the layer or two of cotton didn't stop. Is it better than into your elbow or hand? Maybe a little. Enough to make a huge difference? Probably not. Hence the current stuff about distancing and isolation. NOT masks.
  11. Chaos.Lady

    The coronavirus conspiracy

    I'm not confusing the two at all. And I would certainly argue your last 2 statements. Surgical masks are not particulary effective. You need an N95 mask to completely block it PLUS a face shield. If you look at pictures of medical professionals in most isolation areas, that is what they are wearing. The problem is that there is a global shortage of these. Surgical masks will do a little. They won't completely block it. As you say, it's microns, not fractions. A DIY mask will help block some. But less than a surgical mask. And certainly less than an N95 or a mask with respirator. PARTICLES STAY IN THE AIR FOR 30 MINUTES. So if you sneeze - even through a teeshirt or scarf - the smaller particles will linger. And they will get through a couple of layers of cotton. The better DIY mask patterns use 3 or 4 layers of material + pleating and will usually have some form of microweave material in there. And the WHO and CDC don't believe even they are particularly effective (see Jerusalem's link above). YES - it's possibly better than nothing - except it's giving people a false sense of security because it is actually doing very little NO - I would debate that the teeshirt method is more effective than tying a cotton scarf around your mouth and nose. It's essentially the same technique. NO - I would debate it's comfortable. I have lived/worked with a scarf around my face for long periods and it's a PITA. You feel claustrophobic and hot and steamy and uncomfortable and its not designed for your breath to go anywhere except in your eyes (designed masks have a vent to move air away from your face). The knot will loosen and you will end up tugging and tightening the damn thing all the time.
  12. Chaos.Lady

    The coronavirus conspiracy

    Yup. Zactly.
  13. Chaos.Lady

    The coronavirus conspiracy

    That mask falls into the "seriously uncomfortable and not much better than nothing at all" category. Without the filter material and the decent shaping and layers, you might as well wrap a scarf around your mouth and hope. You CAN DIY masks if you have decent ability with a sewing machine and the materials required on hand. It's not the greatest of protection, but it's better than that. Most of us don't have both those things tho. Sure, his method *might* help. But probably not enough to make a difference. Unless the gubberment wants to hand out decent masks and filters to all populace (which it can't due to shortages etc), just wrap a scarf around your mouth if you are worried - or cut up a teeshirt like his method says. It may not do much, but it won't hurt either.
  14. Chaos.Lady

    The coronavirus conspiracy

    And thus the MAJOR problem with them. Without EVERYONE wearing a mask, there is SOME chance of lowering your chance of infection. With EVERYONE wearing one, your chance would be better. HOWEVER, there just aren't that many masks to go around. Unless they start handing out washable ones or the washable ones become more prevalent. And even then, the washable ones need the filter stuff inside which is disposable. Logistically masks are a nightmare. Oh and you need the whole face shield to be sure - because the eyes are another contaminant vector if anything gets through a mask (ie someone else sneezes and the droplets get through the mask they are wearing).
  15. Chaos.Lady

    The coronavirus conspiracy

    sorry, I meant there is a *chance* it might help you not catch it. But yes, you are correct. From the POV of taking vital supplies away from those who it absolutely 100% WILL help, no, it’s not helping.