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  1. is anyone else running this setup in their rig? im running a thermalright ultra extreme 120 with an antec 3 speed 120mm fan with i5 2500k at 4.5ghz. what temps is anyone running with their overclocks? im running 1.31v LLC lvl 6 and my temps are hitting 77-80c on intel burn test :S. this seems way too high to me for what is supposed to be a exceptional cooler. im even using the revision b bracket which clamps the heatsink down alot harder. possible that ive done the heat paste terribly wrong or are these temps around average for the cooler??
  2. well it wont fit 16GB anyway new cooler only allows 12GB to fit :P so im selling the other 4GB to a friend for his new build. i wouldn't have bought so much if it wasn't cheap as chips. ahh that's the PSU with the capacitors on the PCIE cables a friend was telling me about. i read as much as i could find on the internet and the general consensus is that apparently they do SFA. too late now though but ill definitely tell my friend about it since he is building a similar rig and thinks he can get away with using his old computers home brand 500w PSU haha.
  3. i have been looking to build a new pc for a while now and have decided on all the parts that i need for this new set up, except of course the PSU. silly me decided to procrastinate in buying the parts earlier on in the year and now 2 things have happened. our dollar is taking a nose dive and now the parts are all up about $50-75 more expensive then they were last month, and the universal bracket for my TRUE 120 to be used on socket 1155 is no longer for sale on pc case gear, and as far as i can see no where else in australia. so i have 2 questions. what is a well suited PSU to the system i want to buy and does anybody know of a place where i can purchase this bracket cause ill be damned if im running my new baby on stock cooling. i am looking to overclock the cpu to the all hailed 5ghz, and im not interested in SLI now or any time in the future really. so with that in mind here are the parts: CPU: Intel Core i5 2500K MOBO: Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD4 RAM: Corsair Vengeance CMZ16GX3M4A1600C9 16GB VIDEO: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 570 1280MB Overclocked V2 CASE: Fractal Design XL Full Tower Titanium Case PSU: ?? had looked at buying a CoolerMaster Silent Pro Gold 800W but im thinking that it might be overkill for what im after. also the website im looking to buy from (computer alliance) doesnt seem to have this psu anymore and id like to buy everything from the 1 place to save on postage. i have a 1TB and a 2TB hard drive and an OCZ vertex 2 SSD that i will be putting in the system, probably be chucking another 2tb drive in sometime in the future so not looking at running a million hard drives either. will be aiming to purchase the computer this week before our dollar gets any worse :P
  4. yeah its definately the psu i listened everywhere and since my case has a seperate compartment for psu it was easier to pinpoint. even with vsync enabled i get clicking noises that sound like a cricket lives in my case. its just nowhere near as bad as an unlocked framerate which sounds like a plague of angry crickets live in there.
  5. my ocz 850 whines but only when playing games. if you have the same problem as me its called coil whine and happens when current passes through the coils and makes them vibrate. when its running cpu benchmarks or idling it stays quiet. does the noise sound anything like this?
  6. thought id update people on the power supply i bought. i wouldn't recommend ocz z series psu's they seem to have a pretty high tendency to have coil whine especially the higher 1250w models. it is a very nice psu being modular and gold rated and nice looking but my 850 unfortunately has this coil whine too. whenever a game is really cranking my video card i hear a pretty high pitched wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee noise. it can mostly be alleviated by forcing vsync and locking everything to 60fps and wearing headphones, but you can still hear it buzzing away just not as highly pitched. loading up the witcher 2 menu i had fraps running and noticed it was hitting 2000fps and the psu was screaaaaaaaming! this is exactly what it sounds like. thought about rma but read that people had spent heaps of money on postage only to get a psu sent back to them with the same problem. it has 5 year warranty though so i have that long to decide if i cant put up with it any longer haha.
  7. Force

    TRUE 120 on i5 2500k

    seems i have lost my thermal paste lucky there wasn't much left anyway. ill need to buy some more next week. arctic silver 5 is still everybodys favourite flavour? just noticed we basically have the same computer nobodyishere :P
  8. Force

    TRUE 120 on i5 2500k

    after about 2 hrs of bf3 temps hit 75-78c. not acceptable for the cooler or the clock rate at all. just as bad as IBT really. will try lapping over the weekend i live in townsville and the heat is only going to get worse. mid summer is going to kill my chip! edit: decided to give the 1.26 volt a quick spin after all, took 1.32v in bios to get 1.26 under load. stable so far and cool. will try these settings for the next few days see if i have any crashes. left cpu pll at 1.8 and qpi at 1.05 for now.
  9. Force

    TRUE 120 on i5 2500k

    i will try 1.26v tomorrow i think im at my daily limit of bsod rage for today :P i dont think that im gonna get down that low though my chip seems to be a bit voltage hungry unfortunately. this board also seems to have a massive amount of vdrop too so no doubt ill have to set it to some far away number to get load vcore of 1.26. ive had idle temps as low as 24c with my aircon on and the computer doing absolutely nothing for 30mins to an hour. i do have speedstep and all that jazz enabled so speeds throttle down to 1.6ghz and 0.9v at idle. here is my hyperpi temps. far better than intel burn test temps. but again the temps have dropped dramatically since i lowered clock from 4.5 to 4.4ghz. might have gone wrong somewhere with my voltages who knows. notice the huge difference in voltages between hw monitor and cpuz/coretemp?
  10. Force

    TRUE 120 on i5 2500k

    i got some paperclips and made them into something similar like the brackets that hold the original fan on. pretty dodgy but they do the trick haha. temperatures didnt change so i got the shits with it, reset bios to everything auto and dropped clock to 4.4ghz and tested temps. 10-15c cooler ..? at 4.5 it would refuse to boot without cpu pll enabled and either a massive vcore or high LLC setting.... now its happy to chug along 100mhz slower and all settings auto. cpuz and coretemp tell me it runs at 1.38v under load and touchbios + cpuid hw monitor telling me 1.32 so who knows what its really running at
  11. Force

    TRUE 120 on i5 2500k

    i suppose the positioning of my computer leaves much to be desired as it sits in the corner of my room and hot air exhausts into a cornered wall. i will try the 2nd fan trick but i dont have a 2nd pair of the silly clips that hold the fan on. i spose i can dodgy up something. the case is a fractal define xl and i think they do tend to run slightly hotter due to their sound deadening inside the case. as far as air flow goes though it shouldnt be a problem, i have 1x 120mm fan on the front of the case sucking air in, the cpu fan, a 140mm fan on the rear blowing it out as well as a 180mm fan on the top also exhausting air, hdds and psu are in a seperate enclosure at the bottom and all wires are routed behind the mobo. it was hitting 79c when i was playing dirt3 the other day but that was on a higher voltage. i have since played around with it endlessly trying to lower temps. if more fans fail to do anything i suppose i can try lapping HS and reapplying paste. it amazes me when i read others saying yeah i get 60c load temps at same speeds :(
  12. thanks for all the replies guys. i ended up going with the ocz 850w z series, which has already arrived. shame the rest of the computer hasn't haha. now my only dilemma is trying to track down thermalrights Socket 1156 Bolt-Thru-Kit for my TRUE 120. im starting to lose hope ive emailed thermalright once last week and once today about it, no reply yet but ill wait a few more days. what a pain in the ass just for a bracket :(
  13. well i managed to edit and delete the whole post i typed whoops. i bought the ocz 850 from pccg thanks very much 194 express posted :)
  14. Force

    cant seem to crack 4ghz

    i cant have the ram running at a slower speed than the FSB :( 2.00 is the lowest it will go and i think this is the same with alot of gigabyte/asus boards from the era. i was looking for that option when the crashing first started because i used to run my old athlon 2800+ with stock speed ram and higher FSB. looks like im stuck with 3.82ghz
  15. my C0 E8400 has been happily running 24/7 at 3.6ghz with stock cooling in my gigabyte GA-EP31DS3L mobo for a few months now but the temperatures were pretty average, especially under load. so i decided to buy it a present and slapped a thermalright ultra extreme 120 with noctua NF P12 on fan on top of it. naturally my temps went down which was good and i thought now that i have this heatsink i may as well overclock the cpu to 4ghz. this is where my problems began. i set the fsb to 445x9, upped the vcore to 1.4 which cpuz reports as 1.362 which was good since ive read you shouldnt really push these past 1.3625v if you dont want a damaged chip. i have Corsair XMS2 TWIN2X4096-6400C5 ram (2x2gb) that i upped the voltage slightly from stock 1.8v to 2v to try to cope with the 1:1 fsb ratio 90mhz overclock. saved all my settings and tried my hand at getting into windows and running prime 95. got about 3mins into prime95 test cpu @ 65c and then crash, bsod BCcode 124. i have tried to change everything in my bios to get this 4ghz to work and i am thinking that it might be the ram that doesnt want to play along. i have further upped the vcore to no avail, upped the volts on the ram to 2.1v which is its maximum and seemed to make stability worse. then tried all volts in between 2.1 and 1.8 and still no luck. i even relaxed the timings from their stock 5 5 5 18 to 5 6 6 21 and it still crashes. i found that my motherboard had a later bios which i updated to. still no luck if it makes it into windows, things start crashing and eventually a bsod will occur. so, defeated i have dialed down my overclock to 3.83ghz (425x9) which it seems to be happy to run at 1.344v which i suppose isnt too bad. but where have i gone wrong i have read so many people that have gotten really good overclocks out of these e8400s with very similar setups to mine. the only thing i can think of is that a) the motherboard isnt happy b) the ram is having a cry which i cant understand since i was under the impression this corsair xms2 stuff was the goods or finally c) my thermaltake toughpower 600w psu is having a hard time running 3 hdds, 2 fans, an overclocked HD4850, overclocked ram and an overclocked cpu. anyone have any suggestions??
  16. Force

    cant seem to crack 4ghz

    no idea where the option to up my northbridge voltages is in my bios. i did a quick search on google, is it something to do with GTLREF voltages?
  17. hey all. this is my first time overclocking any intel cpu's so i thought i would ask about how to go about it before going ahead and possibly blowing something up. i have an E6300 core 2 duo at the stock 1.86ghz that i want to overclock. im not looking at anything huge as i still want to use the intel stock cooler, but i recently bought an ati HD4850 on the cheap to replace my dying 7950gt, and i know my cpu at its current speed will be a big bottleneck for the card. what i want to know is what will be a stable overclock for this cpu that will still be able to deliver a few more frames? ive got 2gb of corsair value select ddr2 667mhz ram, with 2gb more coming next week, so im guessing i dont have much room to play with fsb wise. ive seen people changing voltages and the like on other forums but ive never played with voltages before so im pretty much a noob to the whole process. oh, and lastly my motherboard is a gigabyte ep31-ds3l. any help with this would be much appreciated!
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    reviving E6300 C2D

    i went ahead and changed the voltage to 1.35 in the bios. im not sure if coretemp is reporting wrongly but when i watch it i can see it changing between 333x7 at 1.325v (2.33ghz) to 333x6.5 and then 333x6 at 1.1625v. this is strange because i have the cpu set to a 7 multiplier and im fairly sure i have all of the cpu "enhancements" disabled in the bios. *edit* never mind i found what it was. hidden deep within advanced bios options not just the cia2 option. staying at 7 now. the only thing now is that cpuz is reporting 1.296vcore and coretemp 1.325 when its set to 1.35 in the bios. regaurdless of what coretemp says though the voltage change might have done the trick, because it seems to be idling at 50c now which is a full 10c lower, and about 20c lower than yesterday.
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    reviving E6300 C2D

    it seems to be running about 10c cooler today, maybe the thermal paste has set better overnight. 58-60c idle and 70 max load. still not great though but not as critical as before. my case isn't crash hot really. its an icute, im not sure what model but it has 2 80mm fans on the side of it blowing onto the cpu and graphics card. i left the voltage on auto as well. are these new temperatures within an acceptable range?
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    reviving E6300 C2D

    well after a bit of playing around in the bios ive clocked the cpu to 2.33ghz (333x7), which is as fast as i think i should push it because i want to keep the ram at its stock 667 speed. i pulled the stock cooler off, cleaned all the dust out of it (there was alot) and redid the thermal paste with some arctic silver. the temperatures dropped by about 10-15c using the stock speeds so im pretty happy with that. the only thing is now is that at these clock speeds the core runs quite hot. it idles around 66-67c and while running wprime and having both cores under full load, core temp program was reporting that the cores were both running at 80c and didn't go up or down from that during the test. is this way too hot, or about as hot as you'd ever want them to get under full load?
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    reviving E6300 C2D

    ill give the upping the FSB bit by bit a go. im glad to know that not everyone feels safe playing with the voltages to achieve their overclocks. im out to make this computer a tad faster to keep up with the new graphics card without frying everything and having to buy new hardware. if i can help it ill try and stick with the stock cooler and give it a good clean and some new thermal paste. but if the temps start climbing i suppose $35 for a cooler is well worth the money. when you talk about lowering the ram frequency, are you talking about the ram timings or the actual mhz frequency? i remember on my last computer (amd xp3200+) having the ram and the fsb on different frequencies made it pretty unstable. (from what i can remember i had it 166 for the ram and 200 for the cpu). is that not such an issue on the intel cpus? maybe i just had a shitty mobo?
  22. im currently running windows 7 ultimate x86 and i have a soundblaster live! 5.1 card. i know its not supported by windows anymore but somehow ( i cant remember it was a few months ago, possibly choosing to install in compatibility mode) i got the soundblaster drivers to install. they work fine sound plays like it always did on xp. however the only problem i am having with the card is that every time windows starts up, i hear about half of the windows startup noise, and then digital out is disabled. to get sound back again i have to go into volume properties and recheck digital output only. not really the worst thing in the world but its a tiny bit annoying. anyone know why this could possibly happen? i had a separate computer with windows 7 and a completely different setup do the same thing with a different soundblaster, so its not just my computer. i run sound to my logitech z5400s through a coax cable. and i have the motherboard soundcard disabled in the bios.
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    spdif turning off on bootup [win7]

    well i looked on that page and it was looking pretty promising, downloaded it and wouldn't install. found another driver for sound blaster cards that Daniel k had made. downloaded that and it still didn't work. did some more searching on Google and finally found the drivers he made to suit my sound blaster (SB 0220). SB Live! Series Support Pack 1.5 and read some of the release notes and noticed this. Built-in Decoder and SPDIF Out on Windows 7 / Vista The built-in decoder is not supported. Use a third-party software. SPDIF Out is not available on Windows 7 / Vista. i haven't bothered to download and try it since SPDIF is working on my windows 7 and i don't want to break things. i was originally thinking maybe a macro/batch file would be the way to go to do the re-enabling for me on start up but unfortunately i have absolutely no idea how id go about making that.
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