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    Win7 x64 Windows services keep crashing

    So, long story short, it appears it was a dodgy processor. I put my mate's in, and it worked fine. So, took my CPU back to MSY, they've sent it to Intel. Told me 4-6 weeks for a return, if it is faulty. F that S. Went and bought a new one from CPL, the whole point of the new machine was to enjoy it on my uni break, in 5 weeks I'll be back at uni. Figure if I get a replacement from Intel I'll just sell it. Anyway, the new one has been running fine for a few days now so hopefully that is that. Gonna leave it for a week or two then maybe start overclocking...maybe. I'd just like to thank everyone for all their help and patience. It's been a great, if somewhat hair-greying learning experience. Special thanks to Aliali for providing the bulk of the hardware advice, and Antraman for directing me to MDL forums, they were a real help as well. Alright, I'm gonna wrap up this Oscars speech, but yeah, thanks everyone.
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    Win7 x64 Windows services keep crashing

    But mine is a legit OEM copy of Windows 7, not a beta, not a release candidate. And that wouldn't explain why when I installed Vista - which is a full retail version - I kept getting the same errors. ie Vista's own version of the sppsvc kept crashing. Definitely a cock up all the same though. Damn Microsoft.
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    Win7 x64 Windows services keep crashing

    Thanks for the links. I'll post over there and see if I can get some help. What gets me, is I've used this copy of Win7 on my old build since Windows 7 came out, and I've never had any trouble.
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    Win7 x64 Windows services keep crashing

    Yeah I feared as much. I mean, my copy of Vista which is full retail, not OEM, should work no problems and so should the several different OS's he tried. What's more, if the hardware ID was blacklisted, it would be all 'You a pirate. Get outta here'. Not just throw random errors. I do keep getting the little watermark down near the clock saying my Windows copy isn't genuine, that comes and goes, much like the rest of the problems, just less frequent. I'm going to get a mate's box over here and swap our processors around, see if I can get his to error or get mine to stop erroring. After that I guess RMA the board. The guy at the store swears the board is fine, and says when he put a new CPU in it ran fine, but I worry that's just his idiocy so I'm gonna test myself. After that I'm gonna start RMA'ing random pieces of hardware till it starts working :P
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    Win7 x64 Windows services keep crashing

    So, an update. Post-Christmas and before New Year I'd had jack of this. So I took the whole box to where I bought the motherboard from and said "Fix my computer. Please." They ran a whole bunch of tests on the hardware and concluded that none of it is faulty. The guy said he'd never seen anything like this before. He also tried several different Windows operating systems, and all presented with the same software protection crash. In the end, he installed Comodo Internet Security and through some computer magic that has stopped the alerts popping up telling me that sppsvc had crashed. However, in Event Viewer it still shows it's happening. So in essence, he didn't help at all because I could just disable sppsvc and get the same end result. Furthermore, it still says that Activation Status is 'not available' in the System Properties and slui still crashes with the same error. He did mention that when he swapped out the processor the errors stopped happening. But as per my previous post, stressing the CPU didn't cause any issues. He said that maybe Microsoft had blacklisted the hardware ID of one of my components (ie the processor). The theory being, when I first built this machine a month ago, the first time I installed Win7 OEM it said "HEY! I'm not meant to be on this mobo with this CPU etc. You're a pirate, rarr." and then 'blacklisted' the hardware ID because it was using a 'pirated' copy of Windows. Which would explain why the error kept happening across OS's, and, whether this is just wishful thinking or not, the sppsvc did only start notifying me of the crash after the net was active. It did crash in the background when there was no internet connection, but no pop up. Only when I enabled the ethernet adapter did it pop up with a notification. So, my question to you is, is his idea, that a hardware ID has been blacklisted, legitimate? I did a google but I couldn't turn anything up.
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    Win7 x64 Windows services keep crashing

    Sorry for double post. Latest... So Landmark put their gear in the mobo, ran fine. No errors. They say the mobo is fine. Took RAM back to MSY, they put the RAM in their system and same thing. No errors on their system, they also stressed the hell out of it with BurnInTest, Prime95 and one other program. No errors. Bought some new RAM from Landmark, just for the hell of it. Ripjaws-X 4Gx2 1600mhz. New RAM, in different slots to the old RAM, plugged everything back in. Installed Win7 x64 SP1 OEM (the guy at Landmark burnt me a new disc). Same. Motherflipping. Problem. if no one has any ideas, I'm going to take the whole thing to Landmark (or any other recommended repairer?) and just ask them to find what the problem is and fix it. Peace.
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    Win7 x64 Windows services keep crashing

    Got a call yesterday arvo from Landmark. They ran some tests, installed windows, ran fine. Looks like the mobo is ok :( I'm gonna see if I can swap my RAM over at MSY this afternoon and try that. If that doesn't work I might just throw the whole thing at a shop and scream "Fix it!" and wave money around until it starts working.
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    Win7 x64 Windows services keep crashing

    Checked for the standoffs, I put 'em there myself and as I thought, only the 9 I put there, all where they're meant to be. Took the board back to Landmark today. The guy was real good. Always worried retail people will be dicks. Said they'd order a new board in if this ones faulty, if not $35 diagnostic fee. I sure hope it's the mobo. Waiting for a call now. Thanks everyone for all the help. If the mobo checks out I'm sure I'll be back here moaning and asking for more help :p
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    Win7 x64 Windows services keep crashing

    Gack double post! Latest... Installed Vista 32bit for the fun of it this morning, and what's interesting is that the Vista equivalent to sppsvc - Software Licensing Service, also crashed. Mucked around in the BIOS and reinstalled Windows 7. Obviously to no avail. Figured it was time to take it all apart. While unplugging the mobo I noticed the 24pin cable was a bit stuck. And, upon further inspection, was not seated properly *groan*. Now, I'm unsure whether it was like that because I'd been trying just then to pull it out, or, if it was like that all along and I might've damaged the motherboard. With all that in mind I went on to take apart the pooter and inspect the motherboard with a light and a magnifying glass. The CPU itself seemed fine, as did the socket pins. However, I found this on the back, that black smudge near the top on those pins: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/23/mobo2i.jpg/ It's like that around all the screws that attach the case to the mobo. And that blackness is on some other little metal pins as well. Doesn't look too heinous. But then I'm not really the best person to ask. Also found this smudge near the CPU socket. http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/40/mobo1.jpg/ I sort of went in there not really sure what I was looking for, I'm hoping both these things are nothing. But then I'll let you decide that. Gonna put it all back together and see if just reseating everything has maybe fixed it. I live in constant hope of a loose wire or something innocuous. What's the diagnosis on the mysterious little black smudges? EDIT So, problem occurs less frequently. After putting everything back together and reinstalling Windows I managed to get it to after SP1 before sppsvc crashed. WMP Network Sharing Service kept crashing, but I can live with that. Also svchost.exe_WinDefend keeps crashing. Persisted with updating, installing stuff etc. Tried to run Windows Activation and same as always it crashes. Gives me a black background for a wallpaper and says 'an error has occurred'. Gonna take the mobo back to the seller tomorrow and see if I can exchange it. From the looks of things I haven't damaged anything myself through installing it so warranty should be ok. A new mobo better fix this. Or else I'll just go live in a convent.
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    Win7 x64 Windows services keep crashing

    Success...of a sort. Maybe this will help... I posted in Whirlpool forums (http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1829707&p=-1bottom) And I tried their suggestion, I cleared the CMOS, loaded fail-safe defaults in the BIOS, then disabled EIST, C state stuff, lowered RAM freq. and left timings and volts on default. Reinstalled Windows, disabled the ethernet port in Device Manager and lo, no errors. It's been running for about 20mins now and there's nothing in Event Viewer except notifications that sppsvc.exe has completed licensing checks etc. - all good stuff - which was there in previous boots, but accompanied by lots of crashing and general misery. So, with that information, do you have any new ideas? I'm going to poke around in the BIOS, enable things till I get it to error. EDIT Actually, no, no success. At all. Reenabled BIOS settings, da da da - error happened again as always. Went back to what I thought was 'stable' - EIST, C states, 1333mhz etc. Reinstalled. Disabled network adapter. But on boot, even before I managed to hit the desktop, sppsvc crashed. Can see in event viewer. Looks like it occurs randomly, because those settings are identical to what I used earlier, but this time it crashed. Damnit all. Might take it all apart and put it all back together. Go over the mobo with magnifying glass, reseat the CPU etc. Any other ideas?
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    Win7 x64 Windows services keep crashing

    So my mate, who is a veritable font of computer knowledge, came over today and gave me a hand. Still problems. We tried installing using his copy of Win7, same problems. No different. Thought it might be the optical drive, copied Windows setup onto a flash drive and booted off that, again, no dice. Same problems. Brought the system back to bare bones - 1 stick of ram, only SSD, mobo, gfx (no onboard avail.) but still no joy. We (read: he) noticed that a lot of the problems are to do with networking, ie. sppsvc, slui, crashing when trying to activate online, Windows updates kept failing etc. etc. So thought it might be an issue with the LAN drivers/port. At the moment, the only driver I've managed to find is the current one 7.046 or whatever, and the slightly older 7.038, which I just tried, and which gave the same problem. And Windows can't located a network driver on it's own. I'm going to try installing on one of the HDD's next to rule out any issues with the SSD. Then I might try and rearrange the motherboard with an axe...see if that fixes the problem :P EDIT: Just tried installing to HDD. Problems still happen. Fresh install - sppsvc wasn't actually notifying me with a popup or anything, but in the event log it said that it was crashing. What's more is that it appeared to be crashing even before I'd installed any network drivers. So, ruled out SSD, optical drive, CPU, RAM, BIOS settings, network problems...mobo is farked? If people are otherwise out of ideas I'll return it and see if I can get a new one. *sigh* I knew that building a computer would entail some issues, that's just part and parcel, and I enjoy solving these problems. But now that I actually might have to return something it's just a pain in the arse.
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    Win7 x64 Windows services keep crashing

    :$ ...this is why I can't have nice things. After a little tooling around (had to regedit and enable booting with AHCI) I've now changed from IDE to AHCI. And boy do I feel like a moron. But then how was I to know? Thanks for pointing it out though. Also reset the RAM timings to be looser but kept the voltage at 1.25v Dumb question, but now that I'm using AHCI it seems to take awhile to boot up. It'll say 'Loading operating system...' and take a lot longer than when it was set to IDE. Should I be installing anything from here: http://www.gigabyte.com.au/products/produc...amp;dl=1#driver From under the SATA RAID heading? I just ignored it at first because I'm not RAIDing. EDIT: Rearranged the SATA cabling so that the SSD is in SATA3 and the rest are in the SATA2 ports. Nothing was in the GSATA, thank god I got *that* right.
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    Win7 x64 Windows services keep crashing

    That's the kicker. Some crashes are random, like the Windows services. But some are consistent, like the spsvc and running slui. *sigh* I guess I'll start putting things in different ports and hope for the best. A mate has a copy of Win7 so I'm going to try his install tomorrow and see if that fixes anything. Also going to brow beat Microsoft into unlocking my software key from my previous mobo. What's more is that if it was a PSU issue, I would have thought it would present when I'm under load. But BF3 is running on Ultra and has not crashed once, and nothing else has crashed while it's running. Ditto DE:HR. I mean I know that's more GPU, but still, if it's power drawn from the PSU I would've thought that would cause instability and crashes. Now that I think about it, aside from spsvc all other services have crashed when the computer is totally idle. More than often I've walked away and come back to find a bunch of things have crashed. I think I might chalk it up to computer demons and call a "Techxorcist". Thanks for all your help though. I'll keep trying.
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    Win7 x64 Windows services keep crashing

    So I checked the G.Skill website and I'm pretty sure this is my RAM: http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=390 The timings in the BIOS were 11-11-11-28 I changed them to what the website specifies which is 9-9-9-24 2N (unsure what the 2N means) Also says they're tested for 1.25v, in the BIOS they were set to 1.5v so I dropped that down. I didn't touch any of the other things for RAM timings (like advanced timings etc.) or any other voltages that looked like they related to the RAM, is there anything else I should have changed? Ran IntelBurnTest for 8 passes, error free. Also, have booted up twice in a row (once with BIOS changes, once without), no program crashes no Windows services crashes, although yesterday something called COM somethingorother crashed (checked Windows Services but it wasn't COM+ Event System or COM+ System Application), that's the first and so far only time that's happened. I also noticed that my mobo isn't on the supported list for that RAM, they have the Z68X-UD3, but mine's UD3P-B3. Issue? I'll google... Thanks heaps for all the help so far, I'll try different SATA ports tonight as I have work soon. Only problem is the errors are so random that it's hard to tell if doing anything has fixed it.
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    Win7 x64 Windows services keep crashing

    Oh yeah, forgot to mention that I updated the SSD firmware before I did anything. Just used my existing Windows install on the HDD to do it. Then installed Windows on SSD and formatted that HDD. I'll do the BIOS now. BIOS updated. sppsvc still crashed at startup. But nothing else has been going wrong all day, no explorer.exe crashes. Steam's working fine. Waterfox keeps crashing though.
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