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  1. 1 thing for people to note though. The 850W modular PSU did not appear to have enough power for everything I put in the machine and I was 1 x SATA cable short...so had to add that later.

    The only way the guys could get the 2 graphics cards working was by some minor miracle fiddling and cable magic stuff (that I don't understand). Word of warning, that's all.

    this makes no sense at all

    that psu has 12 sata plugs and from what i can see you are only using 4

    two 6950 in cf is fairly straight forward and if your not sure you check the manual

     

    there is two cf bridges on in that pick fairly sure you only need the one but i dont think it matters

     

    I had the same question on the crossfire bridges...and from what I read, it recommends you use both connectors in case you lose some connectivity (albeit momentarily) in either / or.

    As to the PSU, I honestly have no idea. Completely outside my area of expertise.

     

    I do know that there are:

     

    2 x graphic cards

    2 x HDDs

    1 x SSD

    1 x HDD Drive Caddy

    1 x DVD drive

     

    all hanging of the PSU...plus of course the MoBo.

     

    Anyway, the thing works, it's cool (don't think the CPU has been above 40 degrees yet) and it's fast and it's mine, all mine!!!!


  2. How's things going ridgemassey? You winning?

    It's done!

    It's finished!!

    It's built...

     

    So, picked up the parts last Thursday, brought them into work.

    Couple of guys here said they;d help me build the thing...long story short, I was the labour, they were the experts. 2.5 hours later, they stand back and ask me to do the honours and turn the power on...

     

    ...nothing! At all!!

     

    I am not kidding when I say I practically messed my pants at this point. Back inside they went, into the innard and pressed some things and prodded some others. This time it works. And it's quiet.

     

    Windows 7 installs in about 6 minutes - not really timing as by this time I was pretending to work again.

    3DMark 11 got about 8,800(ish) which I thought was a poor, poor score...but apparently not.

     

    1 thing for people to note though. The 850W modular PSU did not appear to have enough power for everything I put in the machine and I was 1 x SATA cable short...so had to add that later.

    The only way the guys could get the 2 graphics cards working was by some minor miracle fiddling and cable magic stuff (that I don't understand). Word of warning, that's all.

     

    Oh, and the other thing...if you are cross-firing cards, both monitors MUST be plugged into the primary card. Took me a lot of internet research to work that one out. PLUS, I then did not have the right connectors for the monitors. Should be fixed tonight though.

     

    Learnings from a n00b.

     

    Pcitures...have some pictures...

     

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  3. OK...order now place.

    I made some late amendments but here is the final, final build:

     

    CPU: Intel Core i7 2600K

    CPU Fan: Cooler Master HYPER 212+

    Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD4 Motherboard

    GPU: HIS Radeon HD6950 2GB IceQ (x2)

    RAM: Corsair Vengeance 1600MHz CL9 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3

    SSD: OCZ Agility 3 3.5in 120GB SSD

    DVD: Samsung SH-222AB SATA DVDRW Drive

    Case: Antec P183 V3 Case - almost ordered the P193 by mistake - *phew*

    Power Supply: Corsair AX-850 850W

    Monitor: Samsung S24A450BW 24in Widescreen LED Monitor (x2)

    OS: Windows 7 Home Premium Edition OEM

    KB & Mouse: Logitech MK550 Wireless Wave Combo

    HDD: Seagate Barracuda Green 2TB ST2000DL003 (x2)

    Extra thingy: Antec Easy SATA Hot Swap Caddy with eSATA Port - used to transfer old data from existing machine plus data backups

     

    By waiting an extra day and ensuring I had the right case selected (silly me!) I actually saved over $100.

     

    Total price was a little over $2,700 I think...so $200 more than originally budgeted...but I get 2x monitors and 2x graphics cards...

     

    I'll try and post some pics of the build once it's completed...which should be tomorrow.

     

    No teeth marks on the MoBo...I promise


  4. Yep...building it myself. Friend of mine from work who is a certified geek / nerd / lord of all things techie has offered his help.

    If it was just me, I'd end up with a mess of wires, several snapped and hastily glued on parts and a machine that would then be used to keep doors open.

    Nah you'll do alright, it's kind of like lego.

     

    My lego always used to have teeth marks in it when I was younger...


  5. The wife (boss) will tell me to spend the money. I never get anything for myself and give all I earn to the wife and kids. So, she is giving me free reign with the exception of the case.

    Hehe I never get anything for myself either, but then my wife earns all the money, so seems fair... looking forward to seeing some pics of your build, have you decided whether or not to do it yourself yet?

     

    Yep...building it myself. Friend of mine from work who is a certified geek / nerd / lord of all things techie has offered his help.

    If it was just me, I'd end up with a mess of wires, several snapped and hastily glued on parts and a machine that would then be used to keep doors open.

     

    With his help, I will have a kick *ss machine that will practically take of when I git the power button...pics of tte build...since it is a "closed case" (no window), I'll have to take some pics before it's all closed up...good idea...


  6. I can get this whole lot from scorptec for $2,296...

     

    With a total price of $2,376 + delivery...

     

    Total price (and it's climbing) is $2,475...which is now around my maximum budget...

     

    Total price is now up a little further to $2,681 although I can bring this down to about $2,500 if I source the monitors through MSY...

     

    Also, $2,500 is my limit...

     

    Total price on pccasegear is $2,677...

     

    If I leave everything else the same, including using the green HDD's, I can bring the whole build in at $2,826...

     

    If I upgraded the HDD's to full speed ones, it will add another $68 to the price - total of $2,894...

    Haha gotta love this.. you valiantly tried to hold out but in the end the computer won. I am currently planning a build and as usual am also suffering from this price creep effect: "but this is just an extra $50 and for just an extra $70 I get that" and suddenly you have jumped $600 somehow!

     

    But what does your wife/boss think about all this? :)

     

     

    The wife (boss) will tell me to spend the money. I never get anything for myself and give all I earn to the wife and kids. So, she is giving me free reign with the exception of the case.

     

    Having said that, sticking with the green HDD's but going with the twin 6850's.

     

    Total price = $2,826. No delivery fee since I will pick it up myself.


  7. Well you could get one 6950, then wait out the new 28nm cards. If they totally kick ass and aren't too expensive, you could upgrade to one of those and not have 'wasted' much money. If they're not that much of an improvement/are way expensive, then getting another 6950 for even cheaper would still be a great option.

    Since this is likely to be a one-time thing, I am leaning heavily towards a pair of 6950's (HIS Radeon HD6950 2GB IceQ) which seem to be pretty good in terms of performance...and at $279 each, will only add $149 to the overall build price.

    If I leave everything else the same, including using the green HDD's, I can bring the whole build in at $2,826.

     

    If I upgraded the HDD's to full speed ones, it will add another $68 to the price - total of $2,894.

     

    But for that, I will get a machine that will play everything on ultra-high settings for quite a while to come...

     

    Now to check the bank account to see if I have that money...


  8. OK, it's been a few weeks...but finally the ATO has given me my tax return...so, I am now ready to shop.

     

    Final build has a few tweaks from when I last posted...but not many:

     

    CPU: Intel Core i7 2600K

    CPU Fan: Cooler Master HYPER 212+

    Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD4 Motherboard

    GPU: VTX3D Radeon HD6970 2GB X-Edition (not avaialble anywhere until 7-Sep!!!)

    RAM: Corsair Vengeance 1600MHz CL9 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3

    SSD: OCZ Agility 3 3.5in 120GB SSD

    DVD: Samsung SH-222AB SATA DVDRW Drive

    Case: Antec P183 V3 Case

    Power Supply: Corsair AX-850 850W

    Monitor: Samsung S24A450BW 24in Widescreen LED Monitor (x2)

    OS: Windows 7 Home Premium Edition OEM

    KB & Mouse: Logitech MK550 Wireless Wave Combo

    HDD: Seagate Barracuda Green 2TB ST2000DL003 (x2)

    Extra thingy: Antec Easy SATA Hot Swap Caddy with eSATA Port - used to transfer old data from existing machine plus data backups

     

    Total price on pccasegear is $2,677.

     

    Decided against the Blu-Ray player - I don't have any and not likely to in the near future. DVD drive will be enough - and I have questioned included even that!!

    Changed the case - Antec P183 over the Coolermaster - this missus over-ruled the case - and since she is letting me spend the money, I don't mind

    1TB drives were not big enough and after some thought, changed to the 2TB Seagate drives - but does anyone know if these are any good? Is there a better sub-$100 2TB drives out there?

    Pushed the boat out a little with the monitors being $289 each but they are 24", 1920 x 1200 resolution - anyone know if these are any good?

     

    Going to push the "order" button in the next few days...any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

    those hdd are slow being 5900rpm but ok for just storing data

    Hitachi Deskstar 7K3000 2TB 7200RPMSATA III 6.0Gb/s, $119 are as close as you will get to fast 2tb hdd under $100

    if you looking to save cash drop the cpu back to 2500k and look at asrock ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 $145 and maybe save a few $ on the ram

     

    ..which is better? 2 x 6950 or 1 x 6970 to which I might add another one in 6 months or so?

    go with two 6950 now or just get one and upgrade to a totally new card in the not to distant future unless you find one cheap seconhand its often better to just upgrade after 6 months

    HIS Radeon HD6950 2GB IceQ $279 its just much better value than the 6970 which is going up in price and its not that much slower

     

    rest looks excellent to me

     

    Get your point on the graphic card - looked at the reviews for the 6950 and could get 1 of those now and upgrade the HDD's to the Hitachi Deskstars.

    Lowers the price a little overall.

    Sticking with the i7 and mobo / ram but will definitely consider the GC - with another one to come in a few weeks when I can save more pennies...


  9. OK, it's been a few weeks...but finally the ATO has given me my tax return...so, I am now ready to shop.

     

    Final build has a few tweaks from when I last posted...but not many:

     

    CPU: Intel Core i7 2600K

    CPU Fan: Cooler Master HYPER 212+

    Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD4 Motherboard

    GPU: VTX3D Radeon HD6970 2GB X-Edition (not avaialble anywhere until 7-Sep!!!)

    RAM: Corsair Vengeance 1600MHz CL9 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3

    SSD: OCZ Agility 3 3.5in 120GB SSD

    DVD: Samsung SH-222AB SATA DVDRW Drive

    Case: Antec P183 V3 Case

    Power Supply: Corsair AX-850 850W

    Monitor: Samsung S24A450BW 24in Widescreen LED Monitor (x2)

    OS: Windows 7 Home Premium Edition OEM

    KB & Mouse: Logitech MK550 Wireless Wave Combo

    HDD: Seagate Barracuda Green 2TB ST2000DL003 (x2)

    Extra thingy: Antec Easy SATA Hot Swap Caddy with eSATA Port - used to transfer old data from existing machine plus data backups

     

    Total price on pccasegear is $2,677.

     

    Decided against the Blu-Ray player - I don't have any and not likely to in the near future. DVD drive will be enough - and I have questioned included even that!!

    Changed the case - Antec P183 over the Coolermaster - this missus over-ruled the case - and since she is letting me spend the money, I don't mind

    1TB drives were not big enough and after some thought, changed to the 2TB Seagate drives - but does anyone know if these are any good? Is there a better sub-$100 2TB drives out there?

    Pushed the boat out a little with the monitors being $289 each but they are 24", 1920 x 1200 resolution - anyone know if these are any good?

     

    Going to push the "order" button in the next few days...any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.


  10. I have used a few cases with cable management in mind and all you have to do really is just stop and think where each cable needs to go and get a fuck load of zipties from bunnings in different sizes.

     

     

    Good point on the cable ties...I'll make sure I get a load of them before building...


  11. OK...a guy at work has said he can help me build the thing...is it really that easy to put together and get the cabling looking good?

    Tax return should be coming in a week or so...I'll post my final *proposed* build just before ordering.

     

    PC Case Gear best place to get the gear?

    just go with the build I showed you, I selected some parts so it will have an all black look and tie in with your cable management.

     

    I am pretty much going with that build...so all good there...really good tips moving away from the AMD to Intel.

    The CM 690 II...does that have enough room behind the MoBo for good cabling? Reviews say it does...anyone have experience?

     

    Going to try and build myself (with help from mate)...missus is waiting in the shadows with a big fat "I told you not to do that..."!!!


  12. OK...a guy at work has said he can help me build the thing...is it really that easy to put together and get the cabling looking good?

    Tax return should be coming in a week or so...I'll post my final *proposed* build just before ordering.

     

    PC Case Gear best place to get the gear?


  13. ^^

     

    good build but i would change the hardrive to something like a samsung 1TB F3 to save some money (yes it SATA 2 but that doesnt matter much)

     

    as for the other things to save money on i would change the motherboard to the UD4 variant as it has SLI/X-fire support @ x16.

     

    as for monitors unless you really need 2 screens (yes it good) i would go for one Dell U2411M (24",IPS,LED) which can go for about $360 from dell with coupons. and then save up for another later.

     

    other then that very good build and should last you a while.

     

    EDIT: Just did this at PCG and it within your budget and everything you want except a monitor (as its your choice):

     

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    so your budget is $2500 and the system i listed is $1977 you saved $523 so you can get a good monitor (or 2) for that with maybe some left over cash :P

     

    so with $523 to spend on monitors and you wanting 2 the how about two Dell U2311 @ $269 (without discounts) each.

     

    http://accessories.ap.dell.com/sna/product...&redirect=1

     

    or as you want a 24 and LED get the dell u2412M $399 (without discounts): http://accessories.ap.dell.com/sna/product...&redirect=1 buy one now and get one later and it will fit with your budget.

     

    EDIT:

     

    with the system above and a pair of dell u2311 the total cost is $2515! ( $15 over your budget)

     

    or above system and a single dell U2412M - $2376 (under budget!)

     

    pretty good hey?

     

    Love this build and it seems like the right one to go with...but a question...will PC Case Gear build the thing for me? I have short stubby fingers that are very good at snapping important components...and would very likely end up with spare bits everywhere, terrible airflow and a PC that runs slower than my gran...and she's dead!!!

     

    Happy to pay for them to build it, if they do it right.

     

    Additionally...and I do like the Dell Monitors...which is better?

     

    The Dell u2412M or the Samsung BX2440? Votes...


  14. OK...shifted to an Intel build based on the comments in this thread...seems the i5 2500k kicks butt pretty much everywhere in my price range (althoug it is going up and up...)

     

    Current build looks like this:

     

    CPU: Intel Core i5 2500K

    Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-Z68XP-UD3 - is this the right motherboard for the chip?

    GPU: VTX3D Radeon HD6970 2GB X-Edition

    RAM: Corsair Vengeance 1600MHz CL9 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3

    SSD: OCZ Agility 3 3.5in 120GB SSD

    HDD: Seagate SATA3 1TB 7200RPM 32mb Cache (x2)

    DVD: Samsung SH-B123A 12X Blu-ray DVD Combo Drive

    Case: CoolerMaster CM 690 II Advanced with window panel

    Power Supply: Corsair AX-850 850W

    Monitor: Samsung BX2440 24inch Widescreen LED Monitor (x2)

    OS: Windows 7 Professional Edition OEM

    KB & Mouse: Logitech MK550 Wireless Wave Combo

    Heatsink: Cooler Master HYPER 212+

     

    Total price is now up a little further to $2,681 although I can bring this down to about $2,500 if I source the monitors through MSY.

     

    But here's a problem I think I will hit...the SSD & 2 x 1TB HDD's are all SATA3. From what I can tell, the Mobo only has 2 x SATA3 ports...will the 2nd HDD work? Is it overkill to get SATA3?

     

    Also, $2,500 is my limit...any other suggestions?


  15. seems a shitload of money for a mediocre Phenom II build...

     

    this one is from Umart and includes building costs, the cabling you'd have to ask them nicely... and I can guarantee you that in games it will be much much better because of the better GPU.

     

    Intel Core i5 2500K Processor LGA1155 3.3GHz CPU

    Corsair Cooling Hydro Series H60 High-performance CPU Cooler

    Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD3 4xDDR3 HDMI GLAN 2xPCI-E CrossFireX SLI SATA3 RAID USB3.0 1394 ATX

    Corsair Vengeance CMZ4GX3M1A1600C9 4GB (1x4GB) DDR3

    Corsair Vengeance CMZ4GX3M1A1600C9 4GB (1x4GB) DDR3

    Seagate SATA3 1TB 7200RPM 32mb Cache

    Leadtek GTX580 1536M PCIE

    Samsung 22X DVDRW Black SATA (SH-S223C-BL)

    CoolerMaster RC-692-KWN2 Advanced Bay Tower Gaming Case

    Corsair HX-650 ATX Power Supply, 120mm fan

    Logitech G110 Gaming Keyboard

    Logitech G500 Gaming Mouse

    Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit OEM(Microsoft OEM Terms&condition apply)

    OCZ 120G Vertex III Series SSD

     

    total: $2052

     

    hmmmm...now you got me thinking...from what I can tell, the i5 2500k kicks dirt in the fact of the AMD...to which I have no strong affiliation.

     

    So, assuming I go with the Intel chip, would that motherboard support the 6970 GC that I was planning to put in - and planning to add an additional one further down the track for X-fire.

     

    If so, I might re-hash the whole build and start again with an i5 build...

     

    Will try and do that today...but if not, I'll re-post tomorrow for thoughts...


  16. OK...I will bow to pressure and add an after-market cooler...will even take the advice and add the Hyper 212.

    It adds another $37 to the price.

    I also changed the PSU to the Corsair but maintain the 850W as I plan to add another graphics card once I save up some extra pennies...that way, I can slot in the extra card and not worry about anything else.

    It also allows me to add additional hard drives further down the track - I know 2.2TB is a lot, but will likely fill it with movies, music & home movies...

     

    Version 3 now stands at:

     

     

    CPU: AMD 1055T Phenom II X6 1055T, 2.8Ghz (3.3GHz Turbo Core), 9MB Cache, 125W

    Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3

    GPU: VTX3D Radeon HD6970 2GB X-Edition

    RAM: Corsair Vengeance 1600MHz CL9 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3

    SSD: OCZ Agility 3 3.5in 120GB SSD

    HDD: Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB HD103SJ (x2)

    DVD: Samsung SH-B123A 12X Blu-ray DVD Combo Drive

    Case: CoolerMaster CM 690 II Advanced with window panel

    Power Supply: Corsair AX-850 850W

    Monitor: Samsung BX2440 24inch Widescreen LED Monitor (x2)

    OS: Windows 7 Professional Edition OEM

    KB & Mouse: Logitech MK550 Wireless Wave Combo

    Heatsink: Cooler Master HYPER 212+

     

    Total price (and it's climbing) is $2,475...which is now around my maximum budget.

     

    I reckon I can save about $100-150 sourcing the monitors from MSY or something like that...and it will have no effect on the overall build (quick check of staticice confirms this)...so I can bring this down to about $2,350.

     

    How are we tracking now?


  17. looks decent, swap the vertex 2 for either an OZC agility 3 or a Corsair force series 3, much faster drives and will only cost you about $30-$40 more.

     

    I personaly like the nvidia cards better and intel chips better, but if you wanna go AMD the 6970 and one of the phenom II X6's is probably the way to go.

     

    oh and maybe go with a blu-ray DVD drive? Samsung SH-B123A 12X Blu-ray DVD Combo Drive is pretty good for $89

    Take your point...

    the SSD is $20 more for a much faster drive (same size)...so I swapeed that in.

    Blu-Ray is $60 more and whilst I don't have a blu-ray player in the house I can see the point for future proofing...swapped that in as well.

    With regards to the new AMD chips - I am aware they are coming out but I would expect a dodgy supply chain / premium prices until the new year at least. Motherboard is designed to take the chip so can upgrade later if I want.

    With regards to PSU - is the extra $60 really worth it to go from Antex to Corsair (CMPSU-850AXAU) - both 850W, both modular...again, limited knowledge on these.

    revised build would be:

     

    CPU: AMD 1055T Phenom II X6 1055T, 2.8Ghz (3.3GHz Turbo Core), 9MB Cache, 125W

    Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3

    GPU: VTX3D Radeon HD6970 2GB X-Edition

    RAM: Corsair Vengeance 1600MHz CL9 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3

    SSD: OCZ Agility 3 3.5in 120GB SSD - I am assuming the motherboard can handle SATAIII?

    HDD: Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB HD103SJ (x2)

    DVD: Samsung SH-B123A 12X Blu-ray DVD Combo Drive

    Case: CoolerMaster CM 690 II Advanced with window panel

    Power Supply: Antec TPQ-850W

    Monitor: Samsung BX2440 24inch Widescreen LED Monitor (x2)

    OS: Windows 7 Professional Edition OEM

    KB & Mouse: Logitech MK550 Wireless Wave Combo

     

    With a total price of $2,376 + delivery

     

    Assuming I am still a little uncomfortable building...which I am...can anyone recommend a good retailer that does good cable management...my current PC looks like someone let off a cable-bomb inside the case! Airflow is terrible!!!!!


  18. After labouring for 6+ years on my old faithful Athlon PC which now sounds like a 747 taking off when I boot up, I have been given permission from the boss (aka wife) to upgrade to a sparkly new PC.

     

    I have some specs for what I think I should build...but would not mind some guidance...in case I have gone off on some strange tangent somewhere...

     

    So you know, this is a gaming rig but will also house all my music, movies, images, etc for streaming to the x-box and tv.

    I have not been able to play any recent games so would like to try out some of the new stuff coming out. I also need it for work hence the double screen combo.

     

    Specs:

     

    CPU: AMD 1055T Phenom II X6 1055T, 2.8Ghz (3.3GHz Turbo Core), 9MB Cache, 125W

    Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3

    GPU: VTX3D Radeon HD6970 2GB X-Edition

    RAM: Corsair Vengeance 1600MHz CL9 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3

    SSD: OCZ Vertex 2 3.5in 120GB SSD

    HDD: Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB HD103SJ (x2)

    DVD: Samsung SH-222AB SATA DVDRW Drive

    Case: CoolerMaster CM 690 II Advanced with window panel

    Power Supply: Antec TPQ-850W

    Monitor: Samsung BX2440 24inch Widescreen LED Monitor (x2)

    OS: Windows 7 Professional Edition OEM

    KB & Mouse: Logitech MK550 Wireless Wave Combo - I would prefer wired - but don't really know much about these things...

     

    I can get this whole lot from scorptec for $2,296 + delivery - but does anyone know if these are any good? Did I miss anything?

     

    Also...can anyone suggest a place that will build this thing for me - I am likely to snap something if I try and do it myself...with the window in the PC case, I would really like to have a place that will also do the cabling correctly (and neatly)

     

    Comments and suggestions welcome.

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