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  1. Leonid

    how crap is this government ?

    And what connection do you feel to a 5km^2 patch of Moray Downs Cattle Station, 130km from Clermont? You sure you’ve thought about the hypocrisy of this as you’ve purchased or used cars, electricity, plastics... etc? The fact that I support digging up coal to provide power to developing nations which then build shit we buy, doesn’t make any of us better than the other. So I really urge you to quieten down on this point.
  2. Leonid

    how crap is this government ?

    No I don't. Fair enough. Let's keep talking. I'm sorry... but we're in an almost-full employment economy. No-one has to be a miner. They know the risks, just like soldiers know the risks, just like cops know the risks. Well you've said quite a lot of hooey so may as well continue: 1. Really? Rape our land? How many percentage points off zero are you Aboriginal? 2. Land is a resource. It's a commodity that is sold and used. If you can think of a way of preventing private owners of land from selling their land to mining companies, without devolving into a totalitarian dictatorship, let me know... I'm all ears. 3. Nobody sells coal to the highest bidders. It ain't an auction. 4. Coal is specifically one of the few resources that helps the needy. Coal power is cheep and in China is correlated with the rise of the middle class out of poverty.
  3. Leonid

    how crap is this government ?

    Actually that’s a better way of understanding. I’ve used the example before: as a tech I hated Dell because once upon a time I was a Dell server repairer so all I saw were broken Dells. As I became more senior and gained birds’ eye view of the lay of the land, I came to the realisation that all server vendors had roughly similar rates of failure on average and that Dell was no better or worse. Seeing a giant fuck-off hole in the ground with dirty trucks entering in and out is bound to make you think it’s dirty and polluting. Take the zoomed out view and you get more perspective. Google Earth is a good zoomed out view for us plebs. It shows no forests, no settlements nearby. So no black lung, no lead poisoning, no water poisoning unless it’s an accident, no deforestation. Its just something you have to accept is real. 90% of the world’s ocean plastic rubbish (and chemical spills) comes from 10 rivers. 8 are in Asia. 2 are in Africa. Coal is needed to raise India and China’s middle class and this drop their pop. growth. By mining the coal here, we’re ensuring more cleanliness than if it was elsewhere. Likewise... what airborne particles?
  4. Leonid

    how crap is this government ?

    Its not a google search. It’s google earth. You can see that the closest settlement to it apart from a few farmhouses is 130km away. I don’t know what else to tell you to make you understand: the effective exclusion zone is 100km larger in radius than Chernobyl’s. All ventures have faults. Do we stop building planes because they crash or because the 737MAX looks like one giant shortcut too far? You’re implying that I don’t want humanity in space? I’m firmly with the Musk statement that we as a species have no redundancy. We live on one planet and it takes just one asteroid to do in one day what coal hasn’t been able to do yet in 140+ years. I’m also on board with Bezos’ idea re Blue Origin - moving all heavy industry to the moon. And guess what power source is gonna get us to the levels where these impractical ideas become practical? Coal, Nuclear.
  5. Leonid

    how crap is this government ?

    Because we spend 3 days clarifying that bullshit lies from environmental activists about a particular coal mine are in fact, bullshit lies. And even if we were to move to thorium, we would still need to dig up coal to feed existing plants while thorium ones came online.
  6. Leonid

    how crap is this government ?

    Please do me a solid. Open up Google Earth and search for the Adani mine. It’s 130km away from any settlement larger than a farmhouse. That’s 110km larger than the Fukushima Exclusion Zone and 100km larger than the Chernobyl Exclusion Zone. No black lung, no lead poisoning, no deforestation and no poisoning of rivers or the Great Artesian Basin will result from this mine if it sticks to parameters they’ve lawfully entered into agreement on.
  7. Leonid

    how crap is this government ?

    Scope’s a very strong point. Are you really arguing that we’re going to run out of energy in a thus far infinite universe because in 10^106 years it might encounter heat death, again?
  8. Leonid

    how crap is this government ?

    We aren’t going to get off this planet without coal mines and without base-load power. Every single new technology that is superior to its predecessor was designed on its predecessor. We need coal to get off coal. Which brings me to your next, or rather my next point, eloquently expressed by you: As it happens, I do think the weather is going to get more dynamic. Which is why I have always stated that deploying wind and solar power (which are 100% weather dependent) on a planet with a fluid climate envelope and a day/night cycle and with more dynamic weather coming up, is the height of stupidity. Which brings me back to the point: we need coal to get off coal. Or we need nuclear. But with all the FUD thrown around here about how a hole in the ground will murder babies and give black lungs to people 130km away, while causing deforestation on grazing land, I’m starting to understand where the problem with nuclear in Australia really lies.
  9. Leonid

    Ladders. They hurt

    It seems to me you can solve this issue in one of two ways: 1. No ladders 2. Ladders surrounded by so many cushions, they’ll attract Bedouins...
  10. Leonid

    how crap is this government ?

    Change mines to airports and you’ll get the same story. The Adani mine is 130+km away from the nearest town. The people that live “nearby” will be just fine. To use Chris’s example, the Fukushima exclusion zone is much smaller than that in radius.
  11. Leonid

    how crap is this government ?

    This is what I expect to read in Green Left Weekly, right above the article “Are eyebrows racist? We ask three gay rabbis.” Look, standards are standards and can always be improved. But at some point standards outweigh the benefits of having them. An example is Sydney’s cratered night life because of the lockout laws which every expert in the trauma care industry is firmly for. Violence is down, hospital intake has more than halved on typical “out” nights. Yet the same people who stringently ask for standards of Adani to make sure nothing goes wrong, campaign for relaxed laws and standards You gotta understand: we need mining. We need buildings. We need standards. We need a good environment. We also need them on time and within budgets. All these things compete and you’ll never get the mix right.
  12. Leonid

    how crap is this government ?

    Actually on a given month, I don’t think about plate tectonics at all as it’s somewhere between Palestinian Statehood and land rights for gay whales (where gay whales are higher) on my list of world priorities. But I really do want you to explain to me how we’re in a transitional time vis-a-vis plate tectonics and nuclear site planning? Is there something that’s changing about plate tectonics that we should all know about? There’s a special on for TinFoil hats at GearBest. I can order you one with a built in 60GHz wifi receiver.
  13. Leonid

    how crap is this government ?

    Seriously you guys are beginning to sound like anti-vaxxers. ”based on what predictions?” ”go tell that to the people from the Fukushima exclusion zone” Is “my child had an adverse reaction to vaccine X, go tell my child vaccines are safe!” next? Aren’t we supposed to be smarter than that? Seriously. You’re asking me questions, I open the Googles and find the answers. At the beginning of this conversation I knew precisely as much as you do now about that mine (SFA). Then I had questions asked of me so I opened up an activist site claiming that indeed the mine will cause deforestation. So I looked that up and even cast an eye over the site in Google Earth - it’s a bullshit claim. Do yourself a favour - there are hundreds of pages of publicly accessible tender and other government documents. Read through them or search for the info you seek. Invariably all activist talking points melt away... and then maybe adopt a position.
  14. Leonid

    how crap is this government ?

    Well not 100%. ABS states that 37,800 people are directly employed in coal mining. Apologies, I couldn't find newer figures than 2014 According to this dataset, as at October 2012 there were 405 operating mines in Australia. According to this list, there are 54 coal mines. So it's pretty simple. On average... each coal mine employs about 700 people directly. Indirectly... it's anyone's guess.... but let's be conservative... and double it. 1400. That's not a lot. Until you realise that's basically a small country town or across a series of towns where one person in a family working, means the whole family is financially secure. Is it a lot? Nah. But that's lifeblood stuff out in woop woop. To make my point, peruse this list of the Hunter area's biggest employers and you'll understand my point. The Hunter is by no metric, a rural location, but the second largest employer is a coal company. Then religion. Then Ausgrid. Then another coal company. Coal is important and the job numbers for us city folk seem piddly. Not to country towns though. .
  15. Leonid

    how crap is this government ?

    Transitional times for plate tectonics? I'm really going to need an explanation of THAT! And yeah... Fukushima is the exception that proves the rule. How many other *normal* earthquakes has it survived until it hit the combination of a 9.1 quake and 56m tsunami? The largest earthquake recorded until that time in Japan was an 8.4 in December 1854 with a 28m tsunami.
  16. Leonid

    how crap is this government ?

    Indeed. How many times did I say the NBN, Fibre or not, was a white elephant in an age of 3G,4G, 5G, CAT-M1, NB-IOT, LoraWAN, Sigfox, HaLow, Weightless? And those are just the wireless protocols!
  17. Leonid

    how crap is this government ?

    The levee is designed for a one in one thousand year flood. By definition, a mine that leaves a gaping hole, is not going to be of much future use for farming. The Galilee Basin is of little concern w.r.t water - the GAB is. But there's the Rewan Formation... so.... I mean... by definition... a mine requires jobs, am I right?
  18. Leonid

    how crap is this government ?

    Adani won’t fold over this mine. The closest town to the mine is 130km away so no health issues. The Rewan formation protects the Great Artesian Basin from the mine and the Carmichael River will be protected with a levee. On top of this the approved water quality levels for release into the Carmichael River are the most stringent ever imposed in Australia. And they’re not allowed to do it regularly, and they’re forced into a 1km water environmental protection zone between the mine and the river.
  19. Leonid

    how crap is this government ?

    This is going to go one of three ways: 1. The mine makes financial sense and it’s just more activist yelling and screaming into the wind. 2. It’s a loss leader for other future Adani mines in Australia - ie this one proves they can do it. 3. It’s not going to make money but it’ll inject $2b being constructed and wound down. I’m betting on 1 or 2.
  20. Leonid

    how crap is this government ?

    So full disclosure: I have a couple of clients in the construction industry. The problem doesn’t appear to be so much in regulations - as it’s a lack of enforcement capability. It’s almost a trust-based system with no independent review. However, re that tower in Mascot, I used to live in that suburb and it’s two suburbs from where I live so I’m there a lot. Mascot is currently a massive construction zone in terms of new apartment buildings. At the same time a new metro line is going in nearby and Equinix SY5 is being built across the road on the old Bunnings site. They’re boring holes underground for fibre and 33kVA feeds and widening Gardeners Rd in sections. I don’t discount the possibility that the tower is damaged as a function of external forces rather than construction issues. I suppose even kimmo has his uses. Where would the cocaine and cock ring economies be without him?
  21. Leonid

    how crap is this government ?

    Pro summary of activist methodology: 1. “It’ll murder the reef!!!” *press publishes 3 scientists who agree* *court disagrees* 2. “It’s the only habitat of the hillbilly-crested frog!!!” *Adani offers to move frog habitat or work around it* *environmental agencies and courts agree to plan* 3. “No Labor government that cares about the environment could agree to this!!!!” *Labor goes slow on approval* *Labor loses unloseable election* *Labor remembers it is party of the worker, not of the Newtown Sandwich Artiste or Warringah Doctors’ Wives* *Labor fast-tracks approvals* *Mine is approved* 4. “The mine doesn’t make financial sense!!!” The rest of us: *sigh*, here we go again...
  22. Leonid

    how crap is this government ?

    Being told to go and get fucked from the likes of you is like being told “you’re a cunt” while opposing Nazis. I’ll take it with honour. I’m guessing it’s Option 2 then, eh? You’ve achieved absolutely nothing, are responsible to absolutely no-one and the only person who’ll miss you when you’re gone is your coke dealer. Which really begs the question... On what earned respect are you demanding further redistribution of others’ wealth? Why do you get to decide what someone throws on a gamble while you’re snorting lines like the degenerate you are?
  23. Leonid

    how crap is this government ?

    Kimmo, got a question. In a hypothetical future where your team win and you're executed in a gulag for being insufficiently practical (because someone still has to shovel shit on the way to socialist paradise)... what's gonna get written on your gravestone? In your 3+ decades on this planet... what's the RIP gonna read? "Here lies Kimmo, beloved father, and husband", or "Here lies Kimmo, sorely missed by Bradders, his cocaine dealer" You spend a lot of time fighting the man, and telling others how the world should be run and how money should be spent... but I'm reasonably sure you've created no wealth to distribute or own, haven't got anyone who'll miss you if you're gone and have shirked any social responsibility except protest marches. Why would anyone listen to you? All cards on the table, Kimmo. Have you got anything in your life, worthy of respect, or have you just managed to exist because you're too fucking angry at the world because it was here first and it doesn't owe you shit?
  24. Leonid

    how crap is this government ?

    The filth you support establishes gulags and imprisons everyone. If I were you (Jesus, I’d have to stab myself for sinking that low), I’d keep my mouth firmly shut about prisons with THAT ideology.
  25. Leonid

    how crap is this government ?

    Well it ain't like I'm lying?
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