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Posts posted by LogicprObe


    No harm in trying!


    I've just installed a fresh Win 7 Pro Ultimate 64 bit on a brand new 500GB ssd....................I'm really hankering for an M2 though..........

  2. 7 minutes ago, Jeruselem said:

    Today is April fools day ... as well. Strange day to announce these things.

    What's the chance this faulty stuff turns up at hospitals anyway.


    Like illegal drugs.................they only get the tip of the iceberg.

  3. 2 minutes ago, Jeruselem said:


    They only stopped exports of medical stuff ... TODAY.



    While all the good stuff went to China....................they send us their crap stuff!




    Authorities have begun seizing Chinese-made faulty face masks and other protective clothing that is being exported to Australia to help halt the spread of coronavirus.


    The ABC has learnt that in recent weeks, Australian Border Force (ABF) officers have intercepted several deliveries of personal protective equipment (PPE) that have been found to be counterfeit or otherwise faulty.

    One law enforcement official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, estimated the ABF had already seized 800,000 masks with a combined value of more than $1.2 million on the Australian market.

  4. 8 hours ago, Rybags said:

    The GFC or should I say NAFC effects were somewhat less and the stimulus was dished out before we were affected.

    This is affecting us now.


    But have to say, I'll be grateful if I still get to retire at 67.  Every chance the retirement age will increase by a year for every month we do lockdown.


    I hear ya bruther!


    I feel like the donkey pulling the cart with that carrot hanging on a string and a stick!

  5. 2 hours ago, Jeruselem said:

    If the guvermint can't get decent face masks to medical professionals, what hope to we have to getting to everyone?


    They would have plenty if most of them didn't get sent to China in February.

  6. 3 minutes ago, fliptopia said:

    I thought about turning up to jobs in one of these https://www.bunnings.com.au/protector-respirator-kit_p5822368 but it might be a bit alarming. Also it's hard to talk. 


    I used to have a similar looking one about 20 years ago...........cost about a $150 dollars back then and the can filters I was using in it could filter out petrol fumes.

    They cost nearly as much as the mask and you had to replace them every two to four hours!

    (the normal 'dust' filters only cost a few dollars though)

    You'd sweat like a bastard inside all that rubber!

  7. 37 minutes ago, chrisg said:



    N95 rings a bell.


    However I've seen lots of pics, especially of kids, wearing them where they are not covering their nose - seems like a waste of time.




    N95 is a particulate mask but like all of them, it has to seal and be changed regularly.

  8. 4 hours ago, Nich... said:

    Most of that is hidden, but the last I remember they signed a MOU.  Chinese companies putting in tenders for Vic infrastructure work shouldn't really have much to do with B&R.


    Chinese companies will increasingly fight for tenders of Victorian infrastructure projects under a deal struck between the state and the communist country.

    Premier Daniel Andrews agreed to the global project on Wednesday while in Beijing, deepening the state's ties to the country after signing a memorandum of understanding for the program last year.


    The agreement document reveals a joint working group to promote the initiative will be co-chaired by Mr Andrews and Chinese official Ning Jizhe and will meet on a half-year basis.

    The first agreed area of co-operation is to "increase participation of Chinese infrastructure companies in Victoria's infrastructure construction program and promoting co-operation of Victorian firms in China".


    The Chinese government will also encourage the country's building firms to establish a presence in Victoria, while Victoria has agreed to send regular delegations to "better understand the opportunities" in China.

    Mr Andrews says the deal will allow Victoria's engineering and design firms to bid for contracts for "belt and road" infrastructure projects around the world.

    "This has been an important opportunity to not only showcase Victoria's massive pipeline of infrastructure projects, but also highlight the ingenuity and expertise of Victorian companies," Mr Andrews said.

    "We are proud of our close relationship with our largest trading partner and will continue to work closely with China to promote Chinese investment in our state."

    Former federal Labor leader and Victorian MP Bill Shorten backed the move.

    "It's not unusual for Liberal and Labor state governments to try and promote their states and encourage investment in their states," he said.

    "So I think this federal government should stop worrying about what state Labor governments are doing and start worrying about the fact that our economy is in the doldrums."

    The deal has copped flack from Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton, who has accused Mr Andrews of failing to act in the national interest by pursuing the agreement.

    "Why does he believe this is in our national interest? Why does he believe it's in Victoria's interest?" Mr Dutton asked reporters in Canberra on Wednesday.

    Mr Dutton raised work under way between ASIO and universities to stamp out foreign interference.

    "The state governments, including Premier Andrews, get regular updates from the director-general of ASIO, and additional briefings available to him or to the other premiers or chief ministers if they require it," he said.

    Victorian opposition leader Michael O'Brien also criticised the deal for giving China an "inside running" on local projects.

    "Great for Chinese jobs, but what about Victorian jobs, what about Victorian interests," he told reporters.

    Beijing's "belt and road" initiative has often been described as "dangerous debt diplomacy".

    Australian Associated Press

  9. 10 minutes ago, chrisg said:


    I'm not a big fan of The Federalist either but whilst agreeing the first infection was from Japanese tourists that still does not account for how quickly and broadly the virus took hold in Northern Italy where it is indisputable that there is inter-community contagion. Italy has been a lead participant in the Belt and Road initiative with a lot of money pouring into the region along with a lot of Chinese know-how:




    Iran likewise has signed on but other nations along the proposed route have not been as deeply involved as yet:




    It seems China's plan has been to build the road in segments according to willingness to participate and then join them up which in a project of this size makes perfect sense.


    Further in strategic areas such as Italy and Iran there are near immediate gains in trade, not least oil from the latter.


    I don't really even see this as a conspiracy, I do see it as a possible explanation for how the virus spread the way it did and perhaps involving sloppy lab procedures in Wuhan.






    Didn't that idiot Andrews in VIC sign up?


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    Surely this is a work from home special!?

  11. 1 hour ago, Nich... said:


    Does it just say that there's lots of people from China in some places, and maybe Wuhan specifically?  Or are they moving freely back and forth and are carrying COVID19?  Because 'they signed up to Belt and Road and have Chinese nationals' sounds like a pretty long bow.


    The Italian problem would have more to do with this, I think.


    Nearly all of it is made in China now and heaps of people are going both ways before these events.

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  12. 1 hour ago, Chaos.Lady said:

    *sigh - I posted this on my facebook feed because my idiot niece was falling prey to the same conspiracy whacko theories and I haven't seen it in this thread.  Let me know if I've mised it.




    It's not human made.  


    Getting server down on that one.