Dasa 218 Posted April 23, 2009 (edited) Prices are just a guide and could cost more or less depending on where purchased and changing prices so for current prices click staticICE or check out PCPARTPICKER which may even point out a potential compatibility issue with your build There is so many different brands and models most are fine so for mb\gpu look up reviews for yourself and decide. The mb I suggest for example are mostly based on price\features so there's a good chance you will find something better suited to your needs2018 CPU ReviewTechpowerup GPU Performance Summary 2019RAM Performance Reviews Cheapest Gaming PC Updated 08/02/2019 CPU AMD Ryzen 3 2200G 4 Core with Vega 8 Graphics $153 (Or 2400G $220 if you can justify it) MB 320M $70 (Make sure the BIOS has been updated to support The CPU) -OR- B450M $109+ (If you wish to OC 2019 update) RAM 8GB (2x4GB) DDR4 3000Hz $96 (A 1x8 GB kit would be significantly slower due to single channel, but would allow future expansion to 16GB HDD WD Green 240GB $48 CASE\PSU Antec ESK3450B w/ 450W PSU $73 (Or ASK3450B, whichever looks better; includes Antec VPA450P PSU which isn't too bad) TOTAL $464-546 AMD Low Budget Gamer Ryzen 2200G Review Updated 08/02/2019 CPU AMD Ryzen 2200G 4 Core $155 MB MSI B450M GAMING PLUS $129 RAM 8G (2x8) 3200 $199 GPU RX 570 4\8GB $189\219 SSD WD Green 240GB $48 -OR- Crucial MX500 500GB $99 PSU Corsair CX450M Bronze 5Y $79 -OR- Antec Pro 550W Gold 7Y $106 CASE Deepcool Smarter $45 TOTAL $655-IGP $844-952 Intel Low Budget Gamer I3 8100 Review | (not overclockable) Updated 08/02/2019 CPU Intel Core i3 8100 3.6GHz 4 Core $195 MB ASRock B360M Pro4 $109 RAM 8G (2x8G) 2400c15 $153 GPU RX 570 4\8GB $189\219 SSD Cache Intel Optane 16\32GB $25\59 Cache Real World Review HDD 1TB 7200rpm $55 PSU Seasonic Focus 450W 7Y $99 CASE Deepcool Smarter $45 TOTAL $681-IGP (Ok for a start but for gaming get a GPU quick) $870-941 AMD Value Gamer 2600 Review Updated 08/02/2019 CPU Ryzen 5 2600 3.4-3.9GHz 6C\12T $254 MB MSI B450M GAMING PLUS $129 RAM 16G (2x8) 3000c15 -OR- 3200c16 $199 GPU RX 570 4\8GB $189\219 -OR- RX 580 8GB $299 -OR- RTX 2060 6GB $549 -OR- RTX 2070 8GB $699 SSD Crucial MX500 500GB $99 -OR- Samsung 860 QVO 1TB $169 PSU Corsair TX550M Gold 7Y $116 CASE SilverStone Redline RL05 $59 TOTAL $1034-1614 Intel Budget Gamer (not overclockable) I5 8400 Review Updated 08/02/2019 CPU Intel Core i5 8400 6 Core $319 MB MSI Z370M Mortar $159 RAM 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4-3000C15 -OR- 3200C16 $199 GPU RX 570 4\8GB $189\219 -OR- RX 580 8GB $299 -OR- RTX 2060 6GB $549 -OR- RTX 2070 8GB $699 SSD Crucial MX500 500GB $99 -OR- Samsung 860 QVO 1TB $169 PSU Seasonic Focus Gold 550W 7Y $118 CASE SilverStone Redline RL05 $59 HSF be quiet! Pure Rock Slim $39 -OR- Antec A40 PRO $29 (Optional for lower noise) TOTAL $953-IGP $1142-1761 AMD Gamer 08/02/2019 CPU Ryzen 5 2600 3.4-3.9GHz 6C\12T $254 2600 Review MB Asus STRIX B450-F $208 RAM 16G (2x8) F4-3200C14D-16GFX $319 GPU RTX 2060 6GB $549 -OR- RTX 2070 8GB $699 -OR- RTX 2080 8GB $1019 SSD Intel 660p 1TB M.2 PCIe NVMe $237 PSU Seasonic Focus 650W $129 7Y -OR- Seasonic Focus 650W Plus 10y $149 CASE SilverStone Redline RL05 $59 -OR- SilverStone FT05 $129 HSF Be Quiet! Dark Rock TF $119 (Optional for lower noise) TOTAL $1755-2434 Intel Gamer Updated 08/02/2019 CPU 9600K 6C $409 -OR- 8700K 6C-12T $589 -OR- 9700k 8C $679 Gamers Nexus 9700k Review MB ASRock Z390 PHANTOM GAMING-ITX/AC $267 (Newegg) -OR- Asus ROG STRIX Z390-I GAMING $319 RAM 2x8 3200c14\3600c16 $319 OC to ~4000c17 1.4-1.5vdimm GPU RTX 2070 8GB $699 -OR- RTX 2080 8GB $1019 -OR- RTX 2080 Ti $1799 SSD Intel 660p 1TB M.2 PCIe NVMe $237 PSU Corsair SF600 Gold 600W SFX 7Y $166 (SFX PSU provides extra breathing room for GPU) CASE Fractal Design Define S Nano $118 (Block bottom vents (except under PSU) to force airflow past GPU and out the back) HSF Noctua NH-D15 $115 (Move fan from over RAM to the case lower front inlet) TOTAL $1631-igp $2330-$3752 AMD High End Updated 08/02/2019 CPU AMD Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7-4.35GHz 8C16T $515 MB Asus ROG Crosshair VII $429 RAM 2x8 3200c14 Flare X $319 Ryzen Memory Stability Thread GPU RTX 2080 8GB $1019 -OR- Radeon VII 16GB $1099 -OR- RTX 2080 Ti $1799 SSD Samsung 970 EVO Plus 1TB M.2 NVMe $329 PSU Seasonic Focus 650W Plus 10Y $149 -OR- Corsair HX750 750W 80 Plus Platinum 10Y $195 CASE Silverstone Fortress FT05 $129 -OR- Fractal Design Define R6 USB-C $199 HSF Be Quiet! Dark Rock TF $119 TOTAL $3008-3904 Intel High End Updated 08/02/2019 CPU Intel Core i7 9900K 8C\16T $899 MB ASUS ROG Maximus XI Gene $539 RAM 2x8 3200c14\3600c16 $319 OC to ~4000c17+ 1.4-1.5vdimm -OR- F4-3200C14D-32GTZ $555 Newegg Intel DDR4 24/7 Memory Stability Thread GPU RTX 2080 Ti $1799 -OR- Gigabyte AORUS GeForce RTX 2080 Ti Extreme Waterforce 11G $2299 SSD Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1TB/2TB $329/649 PSU Seasonic Focus 650W Plus 10Y $149 -OR- Corsair HX750 750W 80 Plus Platinum 10Y $195 CASE Silverstone Fortress FT05 $129 -OR- Fractal Design Define R6 USB-C $199 HSF Noctua NH-D15S $115 TOTAL $4278-5450 Workstation Updated 12/02/2019 CPU AMD Ryzen 7 2700 vs 2700X 8C\16T $419\515 MB MSI B450M Mortar $149 -OR- ASRock X470 Taichi (Front USB3.1-Gen2) $299 RAM 3000c15\3200c16 2x8 16GB $199 GPU GT 1030 2GB GDDR5 Silent $105 -OR- RX 570 4\8GB $189/219 -OR- GTX 1060 6G $349 SSD Intel 660p 512GB NVMe $139 PSU Seasonic Focus Gold 450W 7y (4 SATA) $99 -OR- Seasonic Focus Gold 450W 10y (6 SATA) $129 CASE Cooler Master Silencio 452 $89 -OR- Fractal Design Define R6 USB-C $195 TOTAL $1199-1825 Office Updated 08/02/2019 Intel BOXNUC8I3 8th Gen Core i3-8109U 2C/4T 3.6GHz $424 -OR- Intel BOXNUC8I5 8th Gen Core i5 -8259U 4C/8T 3.8GHz $519 Kingston 8GB (2x4GB) DDR4 2400MHz HyperX Impact SODIMM 14-14-14, 1.2V $138 ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 256GB/512GB $99/165 Review Total $578-764 Threadripper Updated 12/02/2019 CPU AMD 1920X 12C\24T $629 -OR- 2950X 16\32T $1368 MB ASUS Prime X399-A $399 RAM Team T-Force Vulcan 3000MHz 32GB (4x8GB) $389 GPU RX 570 4\8GB $189/219 -OR- RTX 2060 6GB $549 SSD Samsung 970 EVO Plus 1TB $329 HDD Toshiba N300 NAS HDD 6TB $279 Blu Pioneer BDR-209 15x $85 PSU Antec EarthWatts EA750G 10Y $154 CASE Fractal Design Define R6 USB-C $195 HSF Noctua NH-U14S-TR4-SP3 $105 TOTAL $2753-3852 Little Screamer Updated 12/02/2019 CPU i9 9900K 8C\16T $899 MB ASUS ROG Strix Z390-I $319 RAM (2x16GB) F4-3200C14D-32GTZKW <Newegg $555 GPU MSI RTX 2080 Ti Sea Hawk X $2079 SSD Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2TB $649 PSU Corsair 750W SF 80+ Platinum $231 CASE SilverStone Sugo SG13 $55 (Tape up the gaps around the front fan\rad so fresh air has to come in the front not go round and round) HSF RAIJINTEK PALLAS <Newegg $50 & Noctua NF-A15 HS-PWM $42 RAD Fan's Noctua A12x25-PWM 120mm x2 $118 Fan Control Software Argus monitor $18us for 3y license TOTAL $5015 Hopefully that all fit's... Much below this line is old but there is still some useful info among it ================================================================================================Cases30 Case temperature review12 Case temperature/sound ReviewFansR10- Fan Testing-120mm Fan Testing on an MCR120 Radiator Round 630x 120mm Fans Roundup - Tested on WC RadiatoBe Cool: Ultimate 120/140 mm Fans Roundup140 mm Fan RoundupTesting Eight Fans with Corsair's H80WATERCOOLING PARTSBlocks CPU XSPC RayStorm $59 (lots of other blocks out there that would make a fine choice but this one performs well at a great price) GPU EK-VGA Supreme HF - Acetal $55 Swiftech MCW82 VGA $59 XSPC RayStorm GPU $62 EK-VGA Supreme HF Bridge E. - Acetal $68 Depending on gpu you will need to add hs on mem\pwm but these are flexible good value\performance block'sMartinsLiquidLab22 CPU Block's ReviewSkinneelabs 2011 RoundupUniversal GPU BlocksPumps EK-DCP 4.0 $47 (looks like a decent value pump) Q-max: 800 L/hr +/-10% H-max.: 4.0m +/-10% (oem jingway) Swiftech MCP355 $85 (nice little high pressure pump) Nominal discharge 454 L/hr flow, 4.5m head (Laing DDC) (optional to increase MCP355 performance) XSPC Laing DDC Top/Reservoir Combo $39.95 Swiftech MCP35X 12V Pump PWM 1300-4500RPM $99 Nominal Max discharge 1050 L/hr flow, 4.4m head Review Koolance PMP-450S 12/24V (If pump speed will be controlled, PMP-450 adjusts more smoothly than PMP-450S) Maximum Flow Rate: 17.4L/min (4.6 gal/min) @ 12V, 22.3L/min (5.9 gal/min) @ 24V Maximum Head Pressure: 5.1m (16.8ft) @ 12V, 5.8m (19ft) @ 24V $89 (Optional extra) Koolance CTR-SPD24X2 Dual 24V Pump Controller $89Pumps ReviewPump Noise and much moreRads There is heaps more rads out there this is just a few examples Swiftech MCR320-QP 410x128x34mm 1063g 14FPI $69 Swiftech MCR420-QP Radiator $89 XSPC RX360 410x125x58.5mm 8fpi $109 Black Ice SR1 480 517x133x54 9FPI $129 XSPC RX480 125x58.5x???mm 8fpi $149 ThermoChill PA 120.3 405x129x60 10FPI $159.50 ThermoChill PA120.4 524x129x60 ~2Kg 10FPI $189 ThermoChill PA140.3 480x142x60 ~2Kg 10FPI $199 Black Ice SR1 560 480 605x153x55.9 9FPI $179 Thermochil and Black Ice make some of the highest quality cleanest finish rads available but you pay for it Swiftech rads give excellent performance for your $ with a fan like the 1850rpm gt XSPC are also very good but may need a bit more of a rinse to flush out crap before installing extra costs to the above barbs clamps fans 7/16" ID tubing works well as it is a snug fit over 1/2" and can be more flexible than 1/2" tube but both are ok if you dont get a res to save space\cost a T piece can work well Total cost of watercooling with a cpu\gpu block is ~$350+ but you can keep most these parts over many builds provided you can mount the blocks on the new gearInsanity Updated 29/8/2014CPU Intel Core i7 5930K 3.5-3.7GHz Six Core $679 -OR- 5960X Extreme Edition 3.0-3.5GHz 20MB Cache Eight Core $1199MB ASRock X99-WS $399RAM G.Skill Ripjaws 4 F4-3000C15Q-16GRR 16GB (4x4GB) DDR4 $339 -OR- F4-2666C15Q-32GRR 32GB (4x8GB) DDR4 $629GPU Tri-Fire MSI R9290X-LIGHTNING 4GB $2490 - OR - TRI-SLI GTX Titan Black GHz Edition 6GB $4035SSD Samsung XP941 512GB M.2 $578 & Samsung 850 Pro Series 1TB $735Blu Pioneer BDR-209 15x $85PSU Corsair AX1500i $519CASE Silverstone Temjin TJ11 Black with Window $577$6401-8756+ coolingCPU block XSPC RayStorm $59GPU block's Three of whatever fits i dont know anymoreRad Alphacool NexXxoS XT45 Full Copper 560mm $99Reservoir anything from a T ~50c to a monster resPump's Swiftech MCP35X2 $222Tube PrimoFlex PRO LRT Tubing (7/16" 5/8" 3/32") per meter $7.95Fan's six Noctua NF-A14 Industrial PPC 140mm 2000RPM IP67 PWM $39ea lots of fittings$736+ Total ~$6k-10kSome useful threadsList of suppliers for Cases, Case Mods & Water Cooling partsThe Truth About Graphics Power Requirements V2, See how many watts you really needBeginner's Guide To Tweaking/overclocking Your Graphics V3, The How to tweaking/overclocking your video card.Atomics Most Recommended Psus Thread., Looking for a good PSU. Look no further than this thread.Official ASUS P8P67 Series Overclocking Guide and Informationhttp://www.overclockers.com/3step-guide-to...k-intel-haswellIntel Core i3, i5, and i7 3 Step Overclocking GuidesWater Cooling Information/Guides & Reviews/Tests & GalleriesThe LCD Thread Guide to Building a HD HTPC Extreme Cooling Forum Collective Sticky Black Viper's Windows 7 Service Pack 1 Service ConfigurationsTweakHound Tweaking Windows 7 Edited Sunday at 10:27 PM by Dasa Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrueFlag 0 Posted April 23, 2009 The AMD LE-1620 seems to have been discontinued. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raradawg 0 Posted April 23, 2009 Seems alrite... I would change a few parts...thats about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dasa 218 Posted April 23, 2009 The AMD LE-1620 seems to have been discontinued.bugger i just found out the 4850e has been to so what to replace them with? Seems alrite... I would change a few parts...thats about it.feel free to list them i may or may not agree :) fine tuning pc's comes down to user preference in the end but any suggestions are welcome to make this better Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrueFlag 0 Posted April 23, 2009 The AMD LE-1620 seems to have been discontinued.bugger i just found out the 4850e has been to so what to replace them with? At that price the Sempron LE-1250 or 1300. I'd like to know how well they perform compared to an E1400, but haven't been able to find anything to tell me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
magnumxy 0 Posted April 23, 2009 (edited) Great Work! Deserves POTM. Insanity ASUS P6T6 WS Revolution $781 I know it's supposed to be EXTREME! (Doesn't get more extreme than six PCIE slots) But the Gigabyte EX58-Extreme would be equally insane with its massive heatsink add-on. Xigmatek HDT-S1283 CPU Cooler $59.50+1 OS Vista Home Premium64bit $172 Also I'd add XP, Ubuntu (for cheap systems) and Win7 (for future proofing) PS http://forums.atomicmpc.com.au/index.php?s...71&hl=water link is broken. Edited April 23, 2009 by magnumxy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nesquick 1 Posted April 23, 2009 Someone sticky this one this time. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dasa 218 Posted April 23, 2009 just been looking at high end a amd build biggest problem seems to be it falls way behind i7 when it comes to multitasking its closer to the q9550 really but it is a bit cheaper still dosnt seem worth the extra over e8400 to me maybe if there was a good value ddr2 mb for it that it performed well with AMD Phenom II Quad Core 955 $379 Gigabyte GA-MA790FX-UD5P $280 6GB DDR3 OCZ Platinum OCZ3P1600LV6GK PC3-12800 C7 $210 WD Black 640GB $126.5 PIONEER DVR-217BK $37 Corsair TX-650 650W ATX $165 1 gpu Corsair TX-750 750W ATX $209 2 gpu's $1198-1242+gpu magnumxy Gigabyte EX58-Extreme cant run 3 pci-e slots at 16x although i doubt you would notice a difference between x16x8x8 and x16x16x16 thats why i went with that asus mb and i may aswell add the os extra os ta Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raradawg 0 Posted April 23, 2009 Gigabyte EX58-Extreme cant run 3 pci-e slots at 16x although i doubt you would notice a difference between x16x8x8 and x16x16x16 thats why i went with that asus mb and i may aswell add the os extra os ta There is a noticeable difference... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nesquick 1 Posted April 23, 2009 Gigabyte EX58-Extreme cant run 3 pci-e slots at 16x although i doubt you would notice a difference between x16x8x8 and x16x16x16 thats why i went with that asus mb and i may aswell add the os extra os ta There is a noticeable difference... at High res yea but anything under 1920x1200 and its the same. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dasa 218 Posted April 23, 2009 Gigabyte EX58-Extreme cant run 3 pci-e slots at 16x although i doubt you would notice a difference between x16x8x8 and x16x16x16 thats why i went with that asus mb and i may aswell add the os extra os ta There is a noticeable difference... at High res yea but anything under 1920x1200 and its the same. for anything under 1920x1200 and you wont be running 3 way sli\cf but yer raradawg mind pointing me to something that shows this noticeable difference? from what i have seen so far when using single gpu cards and as long as its pci-e 2.0 the difference is barely measurable let alone noticeable Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
magnumxy 0 Posted April 23, 2009 magnumxy Gigabyte EX58-Extreme cant run 3 pci-e slots at 16x although i doubt you would notice a difference between x16x8x8 and x16x16x16 thats why i went with that asus mb and i may aswell add the os extra os ta IT CAN RUN 16/16/16!??!!!!!That is insane I take back what I said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raradawg 0 Posted April 23, 2009 I do not have true evidence on this matter, but there is a noticeable difference of about 5~15fps depending on what game and what settings its on as well as the resolution. I'll search the web to see if there is anything on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raradawg 0 Posted April 25, 2009 I was just reading this today...Dasa...GREAT WORK! I just noticed one mistake... Dell UltraSharp™ 3008WFP 30" Widescreen Flat Panel Monitor $2,2991 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dasa 218 Posted April 25, 2009 I was just reading this today...Dasa...GREAT WORK! I just noticed one mistake... Dell UltraSharp™ 3008WFP 30" Widescreen Flat Panel Monitor $2,2991 ah yes an extra digit i have been fixing a few little errors like that for a while now seems i missed at least onei think its also on special at the moment for the weekend its under 2k Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dasa 218 Posted May 1, 2009 a little bump and i have added 4770 to the list Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raradawg 0 Posted May 2, 2009 Nice...what about the EVGA Classified for the insanity rig? Just a suggestion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dasa 218 Posted May 2, 2009 couldnt find any reviews doing a comparison between it and the asus but it looks like a nice mb so il swap it over there has just been some large price drops from ati by the looks most the high end cards have dropped ~$50 and the 4870x2 has dropped ~$150 a few of nvidias prices have dropped by ~$40 to Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
half kill 0 Posted May 8, 2009 everytime i see something like this then I see the price im like :D but then i see it doesn't include os and im like :( Good list tho Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stash 0 Posted May 8, 2009 everytime i see something like this then I see the price im like :D but then i see it doesn't include os and im like :( Good list tho If the OS hurts your pocket too bad you can allways take advantage of the free Windows 7 RC while you save some cash for a retail OS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dasa 218 Posted May 10, 2009 (edited) just added another monitor to the list and adding what power usage i can find for the others BENQ 21.5" G2220HD 40000:1 HD 5ms DVI Glossy $225 42W(max)<1W sleep hmm there has been a very nice price drop on the 24" benq Edited May 10, 2009 by Dasa Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raradawg 0 Posted May 10, 2009 I can't believe this thread is not up where it should be...Its a really good thread. Get some Mod to sticky this or something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dasa 218 Posted May 11, 2009 added a atom build with a new antec case and a few more monitors Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mac Dude 318 Posted May 11, 2009 really nice thread Dasa. I'm starting to look at components for a build, and the thread has been very useful indeed... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites