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Hello, my first post on this forum.

 

Went the Skylake route myself with a 6600K. More sense as future proof.

Any purchase of Haswell parts now & likely if something breaks like the board......

replacements will be hard to source. Only can see the shop mainly have H models stocked

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Hey guys, new to this forum and PC building as a whole.

 

This sticky is a great reference guide for parts, but I'm just wondering if there's something similar for how to actually put the parts all together?

 

I'd really like to build a powerful gaming PC, but first need to check if it's a bit above my skill level (which has been simply to buy an off the shelf MacBook).

 

Thanks heaps all.

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Hey guys, new to this forum and PC building as a whole.

 

This sticky is a great reference guide for parts, but I'm just wondering if there's something similar for how to actually put the parts all together?

 

I'd really like to build a powerful gaming PC, but first need to check if it's a bit above my skill level (which has been simply to buy an off the shelf MacBook).

 

Thanks heaps all.

Welcome mate!

Go make an introduction thread in "The Green Room" we'll be thrilled to have some new faces around here :)

 

Macbook, being a laptop will always lack the 'raw power' of a custom built PC or even a mac pro.

 

Even though there is a sticky, feel free to make your own thread in the Building section.

 

Once again, welcome aboard! I'll keep an eye out for your intro in the green room.

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lots of video guides out there for putting a pc together

putting a pc together isnt much different to lego its just a bit more fragile

unless your unlucky enough to get a doa part and then troubleshooting can be a bit of a pain to find out what part is the problem when you dont have a spare to swap in

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Hey guys, new to this forum and PC building as a whole.

 

This sticky is a great reference guide for parts, but I'm just wondering if there's something similar for how to actually put the parts all together?

 

I'd really like to build a powerful gaming PC, but first need to check if it's a bit above my skill level (which has been simply to buy an off the shelf MacBook).

 

Thanks heaps all.

Welcome mate!

Go make an introduction thread in "The Green Room" we'll be thrilled to have some new faces around here :)

 

Macbook, being a laptop will always lack the 'raw power' of a custom built PC or even a mac pro.

 

Even though there is a sticky, feel free to make your own thread in the Building section.

 

Once again, welcome aboard! I'll keep an eye out for your intro in the green room.

 

Thanks mate!

 

And nice I can make a new post, I thought I better start here in case it annoys people :D

lots of video guides out there for putting a pc together

putting a pc together isnt much different to lego its just a bit more fragile

unless your unlucky enough to get a doa part and then troubleshooting can be a bit of a pain to find out what part is the problem when you dont have a spare to swap in

 

Well, I'm really into Lego... so maybe I can finally use those skills in a practical way.

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build updates were overdue

low Budget overclocker is gone for now hopefully amd can remedy this with there 4 core 8 thread cpu later in the year

updated the small build squeezing in as much power as i could hopefully its all ok and i havent overlooked compatibility problems (fair chance)

also added a budget ryzen workstation build

will do some more updates yet

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Thanks, Dasa! Invaluable for folks like me who barely know which end of a RAM goes in the slot.

 

BTW: Cases is already plural, and neither that nor "Fan" need the apostrophe. Or was that intentional?

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lol your right its been like that a very long time to maybe 5 years

my english has improved mostly through learning of spell checks but it still sucks

still cases's looks like a typo not sure how i ever made that mistake

thanks for the tips

were all good ~ok and bad at something at least i know my way around the inside of a pc fairly well :)

 

ok updated the review links at the start of the thread and babbled on some more

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added a new build

AMD Gamer Updated 14/04/2017
CPU Ryzen 5 1600 3.2-3.6GHz 6\12 Core\Thread $319
MB ASUS Prime X370 Pro $228
RAM 3000c15\3200c16 2x8 16GB $159
GPU RX480 8GB $339 -OR- GTX 1070 8GB $548 -OR- GTX1080 8GB $699 -OR- GTX 1080 Ti Founders Edition 11GB $999
SSD Crucial MX300 525GB $195
PSU XFX TS Series Gold 650W 5Y $129
CASE Deepcool Kendomen $63
HSF Noctua NH-D15 $115 Optional
TOTAL $1438-2213

 

updated it with faster ram as a option F4-3733C17D-16GTZA $243

the mb obviously cant handle 3733 but its one of the cheaper samsung b die kits available in au which oc well on amd systems and has a better chance of hitting 3200 stable than the corsair kit

for the extra $100 you could get a 8 core ryzen 1700 but for most current games the ram speed matters more than the extra cores

there has just been a bios released for ASUS Prime X370 Pro that seems to be helping with memory stability at higher speeds

 

performance wise amd 1600 trades blows with the 7600k

obviously the 7600k wins in any games without decent threading and the 1600 has a fair advantage in games that can make good use of more than 4 cores

 

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still looking at mb options its a bit of a minefield at the moment with no perfect option all have there gremlins still largely bios related

 

ASRock AB350 Pro 4 $129 cheap with decent features and some reports of select ram kits hitting 2933

Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming K4 $159 seems to have a small selection of 3000\3200 ram kits supported which is more than most in its price range

Gigabyte GA-AB350-Gaming 3 $159 has alc 1220 audio but its ram qvl list is all but nonexistent however there is a few reports of improved results with the latest bios

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Some of the stuff I'm reading for Ryzen is suggesting 1600 specifically because the included HSF is 'good enough'. If you're going to go all out with a D15, would it be better to go for the 1600x?

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should probably add samsung 960 evo 500g as a option at $320

only left it out as i was originally thinking the build was more value orientated

 

1600x is ~10% faster for somebody that doesnt want to oc but for somebody that does oc the difference is very small

for some both reach 4ghz for others the 1600x hits 4.1ghz

i should probably mention that the stock cooler is good enough to oc the 1600 and the hsf is just to squeeze a little more at a lower noise level

 

if anything i should probably remove the X370 mb from the build as they don't seem to be worth the extra over b350

 

corsairs new tx psu look like good value to with 7y warranty

 

au $ has gained strength lately but all prices have gone up regardless :(

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Some of the stuff I'm reading for Ryzen is suggesting 1600 specifically because the included HSF is 'good enough'. If you're going to go all out with a D15, would it be better to go for the 1600x?

Pretty much what Dasa said. When you buy an X model.. you know that you're getting a higher binned part - silicon that tested better - but it seems both will reach the same overclocking limit anyway.

 

should probably add samsung 960 evo 500g as a option at $320

only left it out as i was originally thinking the build was more value orientated

 

i should probably mention that the stock cooler is good enough to oc the 1600 and the hsf is just to squeeze a little more at a lower noise level

 

if anything i should probably remove the X370 mb from the build as they don't seem to be worth the extra over b350

 

au $ has gained strength lately but all prices have gone up regardless :(

 

The Corsair M.2 offerings are just shy of the Samsung's performance but cheaper with smaller sizes. I'n my opinion... you're only running M.2 for the OS anyhow right?

R5 1600 vs 7800X just FYI

 

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The Corsair M.2 offerings are just shy of the Samsung's performance but cheaper with smaller sizes. I'n my opinion... you're only running M.2 for the OS anyhow right?

 

looks like corsair cost a lot more than samsung

 

Transcend TS240GSSD220S 240G SATA III $106

Crucial MX300 275GB $135

Intel 600p Series 256GB M.2 $157

525Gb Crucial MX300 SATA $215

Samsung 250GB 960 EVO NVMe M.2 $185

Corsair Force Series MP500 240GB NVMe M.2 $249

Intel 600p Series 512GB M.2 $278

Samsung 960 EVO 500GB M.2 NVMe $322

Corsair MP500 480GB NVMe M.2 $359-550

Crucial MX300 1TB SATA $389

Intel 600P Series 1TB $449

 

i like to run a ssd for os\games so ~500g is a minimum for that

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ok made some updates

 

Intel Low Budget Gamer G4560 Review | Updated 18/08/2017
CPU Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual Core HT $79
MB ASRock H110M-HDV $75
RAM 1x8G 2133 $89 cpu will take a performance hit till second stick is added -OR- CMK16GX4M2A2133C13 $185
GPU GTX1050 Ti 4GB $199 -OR- GTX 1060 3GB $295 -OR- RX 570 4GB $349
HDD 1TB 7200rpm $64 -OR- Crucial MX300 275GB $135
CASE\PSU Antec ESK3450B-U3-P with 450W $74
TOTAL $381-IGP (ok for a start but for gaming get a gpu quick) $580-897

AMD Low Budget Gamer Ryzen 3 Review Updated 18/08/2017
CPU AMD Ryzen 3 1200 $149
MB Asrock AB350M-HDV $99 -OR- ASRock AB350M Pro4 $119
RAM 1x8 2400c14 $100 -OR- 16G (2x8) 3000 $189
GPU GTX 1060 3g $295 -OR- RX 570 4GB $349 -OR- GTX1060 6GB $389
SSD Crucial MX300 275\525GB $135\215
PSU Corsair CX450 Bronze 5y $75
CASE Deepcool Smarter $37
TOTAL $890-$1173

AMD Gamer Ryzen 5 Review Updated 18/08/2017
CPU Ryzen 5 1600 3.2-3.6GHz 6C\12T $289 -OR- AMD Ryzen 7 1700 3-3.7GHz 8C16T $425
MB ASRock AB350M Pro4 $119 -OR- Gigabyte GA-AB350-Gaming 3 $169
RAM 16G (2x8) 3000 $189 -OR- F4-3200C14D-16GFX $285
GPU GTX 1060 3g $295 -OR- RX 570 4GB $349 -OR- GTX1060 6GB $389 -OR- GTX 1070 8GB $579 -OR- GTX1080 8GB $699 -OR- EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti iCX $965
SSD Crucial MX300 525GB\1TB $215\$389 -OR- Samsung 960 EVO 500GB M.2 NVMe $329
PSU Antec TPC-550 5Y $99 -OR- Corsair TX650M Gold 7Y $139
CASE Deepcool Kendomen $65 -OR- SilverStone Kublai KL07B $99
HSF Be Quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3 AM4 Edition $109 Optional <stock hsf is fine for a mild oc
TOTAL $1271-2580
Added ryzen 7 as a option which obviously helps when rendering but for current games your better of putting cash towards the gpu unless your just looking for something to tide you over till next gen

Intel Gamer Updated 18/08/2017
CPU i5-7600K 3.8-4.2Ghz Quad Core $320 -OR- i7 7700K 4.2-4.5GHz Quad Core HT $459
MB ASRock Z270 Pro4 $159 -OR- ASUS Prime Z270-AR CF\SLI $235
RAM 3000c15\3200c16 2x8 16GB $200 -OR- F4-3733C17D-16GTZA $339
GPU GTX1060 6GB $389 -OR- GTX 1070 8GB $578 -OR- GTX1080 8GB $699 -OR- EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti iCX $965
SSD ISamsung 960 EVO 500GB\1TB M.2 NVMe $329\$598
PSU Corsair RM550X Gold 10y $155 -OR- EVGA SuperNOVA 750W G2 -CF\SLi 10y $149
CASE Silverstone Raven RV05 $117
HSF Noctua NH-D14 $99 < tall ram my prevent install of second fan NH-D15S may also fit touching the side panel with middle fan
TOTAL $1379-igp $1768-$2862

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Hi Dasa, just wanted say that i swing back around here every few months specifically to look out for your updates. been doing great work for many years. keep it up.

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added a threadripper build and updated the intel builds for coffelake

 

Intel Gamer Updated 31/10/2017
CPU i5-8600K 6C $389 Review
MB ASRock Z370 Pro4 $179 -OR- Gigabyte Z370XP SLI (ALC1220) CF\SLI $220
RAM 2x8 F4-3200C14D $219 newegg OC to ~4000c17 1.4-1.45vdimm
GPU GTX1060 6GB $369 -OR- GTX 1070 8GB $549 -OR- GTX 1080 8GB $699 -OR- GTX 1080 Ti 11G $1049
SSD Samsung 850 EVO 500GB\1TB SATAIII $212\$399
PSU Corsair TX550M Gold 7y $105 -OR- Corsair RM650X Gold 10y $154
CASE Silverstone Raven RV05 $119
HSF be quiet! Dark Rock TF $99
TOTAL $1322-igp $1691-$2648

High End Updated 31/10/2017
CPU Intel Core i7 8700K 6C\12T $549
MB ASUS Prime Z370-A $269
RAM 2x8 F4-3200C14D $219 newegg OC to ~4000c17 1.4-1.45vdimm
GPU GTX 1080 8GB $699 -OR- GTX1080 Ti 11GB $1049
SSD Samsung 960 EVO 500GB\1TB $312\588
PSU Corsair RM650X 80+ Gold 10Y $154 -OR- Seasonic PRIME Ultra 650W 80+ Titanium 12Y $209 newegg (need au power cable)
CASE Silverstone Raven RV05 $118 -OR- Fractal Design Define S $139 -OR- Silverstone Fortress FT05 $219
HSF Noctua NH-D15S $115
TOTAL $2435-3217

Threadripper Updated 31/10/2017
CPU AMD 1920X 12C\24T $1089 -OR- 1950X 16C\32T $1340
MB ASRock X399 Taichi $461
RAM 4x8 2400C15 $399 -OR- 3200c16 $481
GPU GTX 1050Ti 4G $199 -OR- GTX 1070 8GB $549
SSD Samsung 960 EVO 500GB -OR- $312 Samsung 960 PRO 1TB M.2 $695

HDD Hitachi 7200RPM 6TB $169

Blu Pioneer BDR-209 15x $85
PSU CORSAIR RM650X 80+ Gold 10Y $154 -OR- Seasonic PRIME Ultra 650W 80+ Titanium 12Y $209 newegg (need au power cable)
CASE Fractal Design Define R5 $155
HSF Noctua NH-U14S-TR4-SP3 $109
TOTAL $3132-4253

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performed a few more updates

split the amd gamer into a high end build

 

Cheapest Gaming PC Updated 21/04/2018

CPU AMD Ryzen 3 2200G APU with Vega 8 Graphics $139 (Or 2400G $230 if you can justify it)
MB ASRock A320M-HDV $69 (Make sure the BIOS has been updated to support The CPU) -OR- ASRock AB350M Pro4 $105 if you wish to OC
RAM 8GB (2x4GB) DDR4 2666Hz $139 (A 1x8 GB kit would be significantly slower due to single channel, but would allow future expansion to 16GB
HDD 7200rpm 1TB $61 -OR- WD Green 240GB $85
CASE\PSU Antec ESK3450B w/ 450W PSU $74 (Or ASK3450B, whichever looks better; includes Antec VPA450P PSU which isn't too bad)
TOTAL $482-633

Intel Low Budget Gamer I3 8100 Review | (not overclockable) Updated 21/04/2018
CPU Intel Core i3 8100 $154
MB ASRock B360M Pro4 $125
RAM 1x8G 2400c15 $120 cpu will take ~20% performance hit till second stick is added
GPU RX 560 4GB $199 -OR- GTX 1060 3GB $319 -OR- RX 570 4GB $399
SSD Cache Intel Optane 16GB $38

HDD 1TB 7200rpm $61
PSU Corsair CX450 Bronze 5y $64

CASE Deepcool Smarter $39
TOTAL $601-IGP (ok for a start but for gaming get a gpu quick) $800-1000

AMD Low Budget Gamer Ryzen 3 Review Updated 21/04/2018
CPU AMD Ryzen 3 1200 $135
MB Asrock AB350M-HDV $88 -OR- ASRock AB350M Pro4 $105
RAM 1x8 2400c14 $139 -OR- 16G (2x8) 3000c15 $260
GPU RX 560 4GB $199 -OR- GTX 1060 3g $319 -OR- RX 570 4GB $399
SSD Crucial MX500 250\500GB $109\178
PSU Corsair CX450 Bronze 5y $65
CASE Deepcool Smarter $39
TOTAL $774-$1181

Intel Budget Gamer (not overclockable) I5 8400 Review Updated 21/04/2018
CPU Intel Core i5 8400 $249
MB ASRock Z370 Pro4 $159
RAM 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4-3000C15 or 3200C16 $265
GPU RX 570 4GB $399 -OR- GTX 1060 6GB $449 -OR- RX 580 8GB $469 -OR- GTX 1080 8GB $758
SSD Crucial MX500 500GB\1TB $178\$343
PSU Antec TPC-550 5Y $75 -OR- Corsair TX50M Gold 7Y $105
CASE Deepcool Tesseract BF $45
HSF be quiet! Pure Rock Slim $39 -OR- Antec A40 PRO $29 (Optional for lower noise)
TOTAL $971-IGP $1370-1963

AMD Gamer Updated 13/05/2018
CPU Ryzen 5 2600 3.4-3.9GHz 6C\12T $279
MB ASUS ROG Strix B350-F $169 (Needs bios update at store)
RAM 16G (2x8) F4-3200C14D-16GFX $325
GPU RX 570 4GB $379 -OR- GTX 1060 6GB $439 -OR- RX 580 8GB $469 -OR- GTX 1080 8GB $725 -OR- 1080 Ti 11GB $1099
SSD Crucial MX500 500GB\1TB $169\$339 -OR- Samsung 960 EVO 500GB M.2 NVMe $268
PSU Antec TPC-550 5Y $75 -OR- Corsair TX650M Gold 7Y $116
CASE Deepcool Kendomen $66 -OR- SilverStone Kublai KL07B $99
HSF Be Quiet! Dark Rock TF $99 Optional for lower noise
TOTAL $1462-2525

Intel Gamer Updated 18/05/2018
CPU i5-8600K 6C $349 Review
MB ASRock Z370 Pro4 $159 -OR- ASRock Z370 Extreme4 (ALC1220 + Decent VRM) $219
RAM 2x8 3600c16 $341 OC to ~4000c17 1.4-1.45vdimm
GPU RX 570 4GB $379 -OR- GTX 1060 6GB $439 -OR- RX 580 8GB $469 -OR- GTX 1080 8GB $725 -OR- 1080 Ti 11G $1099
SSD Crucial MX500 500GB\1TB SATAIII $169\$343 -OR- Samsung 960 EVO 500GB M.2 NVMe $259
PSU Corsair TX550M Gold 7y $105 -OR- Corsair RM650X Gold 10y $153
CASE SilverStone Kublai KL07B $89 -OR- SilverStone Fortress FT05 $139
HSF be quiet! Dark Rock TF $99
TOTAL $1311-igp $1750-$2658

AMD High End Updated 19/05/2018
CPU AMD Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7-4.35GHz 8C16T $469
MB Asus ROG Strix X470-F $329
RAM 2x8 3600c16 $341 Ryzen Memory Stability Thread & Ryzen DRAM Calculator
GPU Asus RX 580 STRIX 8GB $539 -OR- EVGA GTX 1080 FTW 8GB $869 -OR- Gigabyte AORUS GTX 1080 Ti Waterforce Xtreme 11GB $1549 (aio version)
SSD Samsung 970 EVO/PRO 1TB M.2 NVMe $579/799 (pro is only worth it for working with large files like video editing)
PSU Corsair RM650X Gold 10y $153 -OR- Corsair HX750 750W 80 Plus Platinum 10Y $195
CASE Silverstone Fortress FT05 $139 -OR- Fractal Design Define R6 $201 + Connect D1 USB 3.1 Gen 2 and USB Type-C (when available...) $?

HSF Be Quiet! Dark Rock TF $99
TOTAL $2648-3982

Intel High End Updated 19/05/2018
CPU Intel Core i7 8700K 6C\12T $499
MB ASRock Z370 Extreme4 $219 -OR- ASUS Z370 ROG Maximus X Apex $439 (maybe worth the extra if you want to tweak every last drop out of the cpu\ram)

RAM 2x8 3600c16 $341 OC to ~4000+ 1.4-1.45vdimm Intel DDR4 24/7 Memory Stability Thread
GPU Asus RX 580 STRIX 8GB $539 -OR- EVGA GTX 1080 FTW 8GB $869 -OR- Gigabyte AORUS GTX 1080 Ti Waterforce Xtreme 11GB $1549 (aio version)
SSD Samsung 970 EVO/PRO 1TB M.2 NVMe $579/799 (pro is only worth it for working with large files like video editing)
PSU Corsair RM650X 80+ Gold 10Y $154 -OR- Corsair HX750 750W 80 Plus Platinum 10Y $195
CASE Silverstone Fortress FT05 $139 -OR- Fractal Design Define R6 $201 + Connect D1 USB 3.1 Gen 2 and USB Type-C (when available...) $?
HSF Noctua NH-D15S $115

Delid Tools der8auer Delid Die Mate 2 $49

TIM Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut Thermal Compound 1g $11 For under IHS & Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Thermal Grease 3ml $35 for CPU & GPU HS
TOTAL $2680-4233

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everytime i see something like this then I see the price im like :D but then i see it doesn't include os and im like :( Good list tho

same issues.

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you can install windows 10 as a trial

you can keep windows from a previous system although with a oem copy you may need to contact microsoft and tell them its the same system just replacement parts at least this is how it use to work

you can buy windows 10 pro from ebay for $8 although the key may or may not get canceled one day....

i guess you can use linux but this can be very restrictive for gaming

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