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igp crossfire performance but keep in mind crossfire doesnt work this well in all games

http://www.rage3d.com/articles/amd_fusion_.../index.php?p=10

http://www.rage3d.com/reviews/video/sapphi...e/index.php?p=3

cpu performance

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/88?vs=399

 

 

 

there is cheaper mb options out there for both but i went with these although im not sure if there the best value option

prices are from staticice not all from one store so one build may cost a fair bit more or less than the other depending on what store you order from and the fact is that they are fairly close so this could make the difference between one being better value than the other if the buyer is happy with low res\detail gaming

 

A8-3850 $149

ASRock A75 Pro4-M Motherboard $110

RAM 2x4g 1600 $59

GPU 6670 1g $77

HDD samsung 1TB F3 $57

DVD sata dvd $23

PSU Antec Neo Eco 520C $67

CASE Antec Three Hundred $59

6550D igp $524

6550D+6670 1g $601

 

Phenom II x4 955 3.2GHz 8MB $115

MB ASRock 970 Extreme4 4+1 Phase $115

RAM 2x4g 1600 $59

GPU 6670 1g $77 6770 $115

HDD samsung 1TB F3 $57

DVD sata dvd $23

PSU Antec Neo Eco 520C $67

CASE Antec Three Hundred $59

6670 $572 6770 $610

 

so summering the second build vs first

phenom II is a faster more overclockable cpu

amd 970 chipset\mb is compatible with 8 core bulldozer so it has a good upgrade path although i have no idea what amd has coming for FM1

6670 is faster than 6550D but the system costs ~$50 more at this point

6770 1g is a bit faster than 6550D+6670 1g but wont have the crossfire problems and the system only costs ~$10 more

second build uses a little more power

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Was toying with the A8-3850 idea Dasa, and based on that, I built one almost identical, albeit with 4GB of GSkill Ripjaws RAM. I had the 1GB hard disk, and so even with shipping out here to the boonies, it was only $494. Got to say, that coupled with Win7 64bit, it zooms along; didn't try any games, but there is the ability to drop in another card later on. Only thing I would suggest is if people go the A8 path, get an aftermarket CPU fan - it doens't get hot, but it's just at that irritating noise level that is just audible.

One nice thing is that if you buy the CPU at the moment, you get a free copy of DiRT3 - downloadable on Steam, but a nice 'burn in utility' :)

Thanks for keeping this list updated - really handy.

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swapped things around a bit again added the amd itx build back in which is now based on FM1 but the mb isnt in au yet unfortunately

 

a mate just linked me to this handy list of mb and there features

 

Sandy Bridge P6x Motherboards : Sheet1

https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0Ao...=291&h=2175

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Thanks Dasa for this awesome thread. I'm using your 'high end' build as a reference to see if I can get something like that assembled here in the middle east.

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added a new build based on lga 2011

 

Insanity

CPU Intel Core i7 3930K $649 - OR - Intel Core i7 3960X $1229

MB ASUS Rampage IV Extreme with Battlefield 3 $539

RAM Corsair 16GB (4x4GB) 2133MHz 9-11-10-27 1.5V, DOMINATOR GT $351 - OR - Corsair 32GB Kit (4x8GB) 1866MHz Vengeance 10-11-10-30 $649

GPU Three MSI GeForce GTX 580 3GB Lightning Extreme Edition OC $699ea

SSD Corsair Force Series GT 240GB SSD $569

HDD Hitachi 0F13180 1TB Deskstar 7K1000.D 7200rpm HDD - SATA III 6.0Gbs, 32MB single 1tb platter $137

Blu BDR-206BK $115

PSU Enermax Platimax 1200W EPM1200EWT $369

CASE Silverstone Temjin TJ11 Black with Window $575

$5401-6279

CPU block XSPC RayStorm $79

GPU block's three EK-VGA Supreme HF - Acetal $58.60ea

Rad Black Ice SR1 560 $178

Reservoir Acrylic Dual 5.25” for Two Laing DDC $52.50

Pump's Two MCP35X $120ea

Tube PrimoFlex PRO LRT Tubing (7/16" 5/8" 3/32") per metre $7.95

Fan's six Silverstone 140mm Air Penetrator UV AP141 $19ea

lots of fittings

$870+

Total ~$6300-7200

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been looking at some newer watercooling parts and this massive cheap alloy case

 

Cubitek Tank Series - HPTX-TANK CB-TKE-B510 - Black - Aluminium $150 (will need to be sliced and diced)

XSPC RayStorm CPU Waterblock for Intel $79

EK-VGA Supreme HF - Acetal $58.60ea x2

Black Ice GT Xtreme 480 Radiator $119

Scythe Gentle Typhoon 120mm 1850rpm D1225C12B5AP-15 $18ea x4-8

Koolance PMP-450S 12/24V Water Pump $99

Koolance CTR-SPD24X2 Dual 24V Pump Controller $89 (optional)

T-Fitting-1/2", Nylon, Black $1.25

Plug Fitting (Barbed), 1/2", $1.75

Barbs Brass G1/4" to 1/2", $1.75ea x8 $14

PrimoFlex PRO LRT Tubing (Black 7/16" 5/8" 3/32") $7.95 x3 $24

$679-840 +15 clamps

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updated three builds with 7970 unfortunately that now means there is no nvidia gpu recommended in any builds other than the gt430 igp

 

 

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the low budget gamer amd build has now been replaced by a cheaper intel build

dual core and no overclocking is a bit of a kick in the nuts but otherwise its not all that bad for the price

 

Low Budget Gamer 1

CPU Intel Core i3 2100 3.10GHz 3MB $123

MB Asrock H61M-S $39

RAM 1x4g ddr3 $18 - OR - 2x4g $36

GPU 6670 1g $69 - OR - 6770 1G $99 - OR - 6850 1G $159 - OR - 6870 1G $179 - OR - 6950 2G $259

HDD 500GB 7200rpm was $37 now $77

DVD sata dvd $18

PSU Antec HCG-520 Bronze 3y $79 - OR - FSP Aurum 500w Gold 5y $95 (FSP Hexa Series 400W $45 if you really need to save a few bucks this psu isnt half bad for the price but only 1-pci-e lead so 6850 or less unless you use the adapter that comes with a 6950)

CASE BitFenix Merc Alpha $49

TOTAL $369-IGP (ok for a start but for gaming get a gpu quick) $438-696

 

Low Budget Gamer 1

CPU Phenom II X4 960T 3GHz $135 ~%50 slower than 2500k but it costs less so if you really need to save $100 this cpu is still enough to make games playable

MB Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2P (igp) $64 - OR - ASUS M5A97 EVO $128 6+2 Phase $128

RAM 2x4g ddr3 $40

GPU 6670 1g $77 - OR - 6770 1G $99 - OR - 6850 1G $159 - OR - 6870 1G $179 - OR - 6950 1G $219 - OR - 6950 2G $259

HDD 500GB 7200rpm was $37 now $99

DVD sata dvd $23

PSU Antec HCG-520 Bronze 3y $79 - OR - FSP Aurum 500w Gold 5y $95 (FSP Hexa Series 400W $45 if you really need to save a few bucks this psu isnt half bad for the price but only 1-pci-e lead so 6850 or less unless you use the adapter that comes with a 6950)

CASE NZXT Source 210 Elite $59

HSF CoolerMaster Hyper 212 EVO $39 (optional)

TOTAL $499-IGP (ok for a start but for gaming get a gpu quick) $576-$877

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Dasa, just 2 quick questions. Is the HD6950 2G that you feature in the low budget gaming build 1 a Powercolor Radeon HD6950 2GB and is there a case like the BitFenix Merc Alpha but with the power supply on the top?

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Dasa, just 2 quick questions. Is the HD6950 2G that you feature in the low budget gaming build 1 a Powercolor Radeon HD6950 2GB and is there a case like the BitFenix Merc Alpha but with the power supply on the top?

im no Dasa but i might be able to assist.

 

1) it really doesn't matter which 2gb 6950 you buy, they all perform about the same. some have 1 year additional warranty, some might have superior cooling. chose based on that.

2) most cases have PSU at the bottom these days for thermal and design reasons. if your cpu is at top its easier to exhaust heat and you'll find most enthusiast cases use top exhaust fans along with rear fans as standard now. you will struggle to find a modern case that hasn't followed this design.

 

hope that helps.

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i just listed the cheapest 6950 2g i could find but as an example a mate of mine recently decided to spend the extra $40 for the asus 6950 2g cu as it has 3 year warranty vs 2 and a quieter hsf although he was a little shocked when he opened it up and realised how big it was being a tri slot card

any reason you want the psu up top?

 

looks like p0is(+)n made a nice reply that covers your questions a little better :)

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Thanks for reply gents. The reason I want my psu to be on top is because it can get clogged up with dust easier being on the bottom.

most decent cases will have bottom dust filters, that slide out the rear and take about 20 seconds to clean, so your psu intakes from under the chassis (filtered) and exhausts to the rear.

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the cheap case i listed in that build doesnt come with dust filters but you can flip the psu so it draws its air from inside the case

if dust is a problem it may be worth getting some air inlet fans for the case with dust filters or since your on a budget you can make your own with stretched stockings if you wish

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updated some things

 

added to some builds Antec EA-450 Platinum 3y $108

Thermalright True Spirit $39 replaced the cm 212 evo

7950 3g $499 is now in the value gamer

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spent the last few hours updating a number of builds\parts\prices but there is more that should be done i havent looked at monitors yet

gtx680 is in

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Just wanted to massively thank Dasa for this work on this - I used it as a base for my build not too long ago.

I wanted to say thank you then, but I've only just managed to get my account details again to be able to now. :)

 

So - thank you. Immensely.

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Just wanted to massively thank Dasa for this work on this - I used it as a base for my build not too long ago.

I wanted to say thank you then, but I've only just managed to get my account details again to be able to now. :)

 

So - thank you. Immensely.

nice to hear it was of use

what parts did you end up going with?

 

edit

there has been some large price drops and ivy has shown itself so iv updated all builds except first and last

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reworked the value gamer build again with a cheaper case option and gtx670 also changed the hsf

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CORE i5 2500K $220

ASROCK Z77 EXTREME 4 $154

GTX670 2GB INNO3D/GAINWARD/GIGABYTE WF OC $479/$499/$514

8GB KIT 1600 (4GB x 2) G.SKILL SNIPER $58

2TB WESTERN DIGITAL GREEN $118

OEM 64BIT WIN7 HOME PREMIUM $90

SATA BLU-RAY COMBO LG $54

ANTEC P280 BLACK SUPER $144

ANTEC HIGH CURRENT GAMER 750W$134

 

was looking at the value gamer build and came up with this by browsing through some lists. What do you guys think, will this work well or need some tweaking?

Whats the difference with WD's Caviar green, blue hard drive offerings. and how does the asrock compare to a G1 sniper m3? Finally is there any reason to get a gainward GTX670 over the inno3d?

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green is ~5400rpm so its much slower than the blue 7200rpm

the asrock is larger since its atx not matx and its cheaper so it may be lacking some features the sniper has

both those gpu look fairly standard to me so it probably doesnt make a difference evga\asus\gb and possibly others will give you a 3 year warranty vs 2 and some of the oc models may have a better vrm which may help with overclocking

psu wattage is a little high even for two gtx670 but its not bad if you intend to get a second

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