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I have been to 2 docters about it, 1 said it is because of my weight (114kgs 6'1ft at 14, Yes...), but the other docter says it has something to do with my nose, that my air pipes in my nose are too small...

 

Out of curiosity, why didn't you listen to the doctor who said it was your weight? :P

 

 

Pretty fair question...

 

Because another docter told me otherwise.

Sounds like he's determined it's not the weight

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Sounds like he's determined it's not the weight

yeah maybe,

 

he may be trying to build up more opinions to go against it.

But I am not going to assume that just yet.

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OK, I think I'm gonna have to give you the most sound medical advice any of us is qualified to dish out, Lewis-

 

See another doctor. If you've got two conflicting opinions, you can't really take one over the other- how do you know which one is right?

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OK, I think I'm gonna have to give you the most sound medical advice any of us is qualified to dish out, Lewis-

 

See another doctor. If you've got two conflicting opinions, you can't really take one over the other- how do you know which one is right?

How exactly are they conflicting opinions?

They're not the same diagnosis, but they're not exactly "conflicting" =P

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OK, I think I'm gonna have to give you the most sound medical advice any of us is qualified to dish out, Lewis-

 

See another doctor. If you've got two conflicting opinions, you can't really take one over the other- how do you know which one is right?

How exactly are they conflicting opinions?

They're not the same diagnosis, but they're not exactly "conflicting" =P

 

One person's saying it's because of one thing, another's saying because of another. That's what I'd call conflicting. Unless it turns out to be a result of both I guess.

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One person's saying it's because of one thing, another's saying because of another. That's what I'd call conflicting. Unless it turns out to be a result of both I guess.

The former could be causing the latter.

Conflicting IMO would be where first doctor says "It's definitely because you have no feet. Nothing to do with you having no arms."

Second one says "It's definitely because you have no arms. Nothing to do with you being feetless".

 

Given how open to intepretation many medical things are, it's not uncommon to find a few doctors having different main causes where all might be correct, or all might be related.

Just because they're different doesn't mean they're conflicting =P

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Just like to add this:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obesity

 

Quote from this:

 

Excessive body weight is associated with various diseases, particularly cardiovascular diseases, diabetes mellitus type 2, obstructive sleep aponea, certain types of cancer, and osteoarthritis.

 

But yes - go see a third doctor. But the only reason you need to do that is because you don't want to listen to the first doctor.

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One person's saying it's because of one thing, another's saying because of another. That's what I'd call conflicting. Unless it turns out to be a result of both I guess.

The former could be causing the latter.

Conflicting IMO would be where first doctor says "It's definitely because you have no feet. Nothing to do with you having no arms."

Second one says "It's definitely because you have no arms. Nothing to do with you being feetless".

 

Given how open to intepretation many medical things are, it's not uncommon to find a few doctors having different main causes where all might be correct, or all might be related.

Just because they're different doesn't mean they're conflicting =P

 

Fair enough. I guess we don't know whether Lewis told the second doctor about the first diagnosis or not or whether the doctor ruled it out or not.

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This is bugging me.

 

It's apnoea.

 

oe for oxygen.

 

Like ae for blood.

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Only people I've heard having that problem have all been overweight.

That's not true.

 

Wow, you know him better than he does.

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I stated it might not be coincidental.

 

Go back to mucking your stables Pablo.

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Only people I've heard having that problem have all been overweight.

That's not true.

 

Wow, you know him better than he does.

 

Pretty much. I wasn't privy to the fact that both 1shot's daughter and Gir suffered from sleep apnoea at one stage or another, so obviously I couldn't include that in my observation.

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I stated it might not be coincidental.

 

Go back to mucking your stables Pablo.

Well if that's what you were referring to, you in fact stated that it was not coincidental, sans the might. My stables are shiny and clean, by the way, Juanita.

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Maybe your nose is too flabby and your nose flubber is suffocating you.

 

Stop eating cheeseburgers and jump on a treadmill fatty.

Brutally honest post, which I find myself agreeing with.

 

Only people I've heard having that problem have all been overweight. Cooincidence? I'm thinking "no".

 

Taken from http://www.healthysleep.com.au/

Who Has OSA?

Until very recently, doctors thought OSA affected overweight, middle-aged men, but they now know that OSA affects men, women, and children of all body types. One of the reasons this took time to discover is that the symptoms in a young, healthy woman may differ from those of an overweight middle-aged man.

 

Whilst being overwieght is one of the leading risk factors I'd debate whether it's a cause or an effect. Leptin is one of the key regulators for appetite and if you're not sleeping properly then you feel that you need to eat more and as a result probably gain weight. Simply saying that Lewis0076 should lose weight may not treat the root cause so give the kid a break.

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Simply saying that Lewis0076 should lose weight may not treat the root cause so give the kid a break.

I truly would like to hear a better solution :P Or a better way of "what [to] do to beat it?" :P

 

I think that this is his list of options:

 

1) Lose weight

2) Get surgery to give him bigger shnoz innards.

 

By all means though, give the kid a better suggestion :P

 

Rob.

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Simply saying that Lewis0076 should lose weight may not treat the root cause so give the kid a break.

I truly would like to hear a better solution :P Or a better way of "what [to] do to beat it?" :P

 

I think that this is his list of options:

 

1) Lose weight

2) Get surgery to give him bigger shnoz innards.

 

By all means though, give the kid a better suggestion :P

 

Rob.

 

I did already. He needs to go and see a Sleep Specialist.

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Simply saying that Lewis0076 should lose weight may not treat the root cause so give the kid a break.

I truly would like to hear a better solution :P Or a better way of "what [to] do to beat it?" :P

 

I think that this is his list of options:

 

1) Lose weight

2) Get surgery to give him bigger shnoz innards.

 

By all means though, give the kid a better suggestion :P

 

Rob.

 

I did already. He needs to go and see a Sleep Specialist.

 

Touche :P Lewis, you should see a sleep specialist.

 

Rob.

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To all the apologists, how can losing weight in this case be a bad thing ?

 

114 @ 14, way to heavy, things will only head downhill unless you address that.

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To all the apologists, how can losing weight in this case be a bad thing ?

 

114 @ 14, way to heavy, things will only head downhill unless you address that.

1) "Way too heavy" :P

 

2) I've already said that, twice I think, gotta be quicker here plebs! :P

 

Rob.

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American: Apnea

 

English: Apnoea

 

also

 

American: Edema

 

English: Oedema

 

It's very annoying when i'm using medical words with various types of spelling when searching for specific journal articles on the internet for my research essays >.<

 

Most of the patient's i've worked with that have sleep apnoea have the co-morbidity of being overweight/obese.

 

They're usually hooked up to a bi-pap (biphasic) or CPAP (Continuous Positive Airway Pressure) machine to help force air and oxygen into their lungs so that they don't starve themselves of oxygen, become hypoxic and either suffer a traumatic brain injury or die.

 

Good luck getting your sleep apnoea sorted Lewis! =D

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I'm not sure anybody's actually said it's a bad thing, all I've seen is suggestions that it's not necessarily the root cause.

 

Personally, I would recommend losing weight to Lewis if he were to voice concern about that.

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I have Obstructive Sleep Apneoa. I have been on a CPAP machine for 10 years.

 

Technically it happens because the muscles in your throat become flabby when you fall asleep cutting off your air ways. This happens several hundred times a night. What happens is the body wakes you up to take a proper breath - although you wouldn't be aware that it has happened.

 

It is a serious condition that can cause heart attacks and strokes if not properly treated.

 

To be diagnosed you have to go to a sleep clinic, get hooked up to all sorts of wires, and a computer monitors your vitals during the night.

 

In some rare cases it can be treated by surgery, however the most common method is a CPAP machine. This maintains a positive airflow keeping your air ways open.

 

Although it is common in overweight men it can also occur in young children.

 

The worst part is getting used to the mask you have to wear. In summer this heats up your head and things become very uncomfortable.

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Some relavent research to the discussion that surfaced yesterday supporting the theory that lack of sleep is the cause and not the result.

 

http://www.smh.com.au/news/health/teenager...2651083292.html

 

Their sleep deprivation is enough to cause "serious drop-offs in school performance, attention and memory", and governments should consider later or flexible school start times, said the study's leader, Tim Olds, whose research also establishes lack of sleep as a cause of weight gain in children, and a possible source of future problems with depression, anxiety and increased susceptibility to illness.

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