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Buying a NAS, Need help.

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Hi guys,

I am buying a NAS and I am having trouble finding something that suits my needs.

I want 4 Bays, (for 4tb) and a USB port for plugging in an IOSafe to also share through the NAS.

I had thought of making a freenas box but there is enough computers around the house already.

oh and budget is $500-600

Any suggestions would be great!

How about this?

http://www.shoppingsquare.com.au/product.php?id=9220

Can I do better?

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I think thats a good choice..

 

Although you realise after adding disks (4x1TB) and postage you're probably looking at about $1200

 

You cant really get 4bay NAS drives for much cheaper than 650~700

 

A lot of places sell the DLink 343 for around $600, that has 4bays and all the specs you require, but its kinda ugly and i dont really like D-Link stuff - something to consider if you want to save on postage to get that QNAP here

 

In answer to your question I think that QNAP is fine, take a look on US ebay as well, sometimes you'll see some cheap NAS' there

 

My solution to storage in the end was building a Clark Connect file server, ended up costing $650 with including 4TB storage (i also had some spare parts around that went to it)

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Thanks for the reply,

 

I'm not keen on D-link either so I'll give that one a miss.

I looked up Clark Connect, very interesting, do you think you could give more info on the hardware in your build?

I dont mind building something if I can keep the power consumption right down like a NAS.

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I had thought of making a freenas box but there is enough computers around the house already.

Um a NAS is actually just a very specialised computer with an embedded OS designed specifically for it's purpose.

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Um a NAS is actually just a very specialised computer with an embedded OS designed specifically for it's purpose.

Very true, but most NAS boxes do not have any video hardware and use 20-30w instead of over 100w.

I don't call my Android phone or PS3 a computer either, although they are.

 

I do see your point, but I don't think I can build anything that can do exactly what a NAS does while being as small and power friendly.

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I do see your point, but I don't think I can build anything that can do exactly what a NAS does while being as small and power friendly.

 

Thats right, its a bit of a toss up between a file server which has added functionality but obviously larger size and generally larger power consumption, and a NAS which is minimal and functional. FreeNAS is worth a look, though I have never used it myself I have heard reports of driver and hardware issues. Getting it to recognise RAID cards and NICs etc, and the support documentation online is poor at best. Although it can run on 32MB of disk space and on a 100MHz processor which is pretty cool.

 

The reason I went with Clark Connect was, like any good linux distro, you can strip it down on install, so essentially I only installed the base OS with the Samba server module. Then in the future, if I want to add a mail server, webserver, firewall or whatever I can throw that in down the track. My aim was to get a nice looking case, smallish PSU for low power consumption stripped down innards and low cost.

 

 

You asked about my setup -- The gear I went with in the end was:

 

Case: Lian Li PC-8B Black - $145 pccasegear.com (awsome looking case, Lian Li are the bomb)

PSU: Antec Basiq 350W (obviously overpowered for its usage but cant go wrong with Antec PSUs) - $64 MSY

Mobo: Intel Retail DG31PR (cheap and honest board with 4x sata ports and onboard vid ((if needed, CC is web based anyway)))- $62 MSY

CPU: Celeron P4 2.8GHz

HDD: 2.5" 80GB IDE (system drive)

4x Seagate 1TB - $380 from MSY

RAM: 1G DDR2

 

= $651

 

The bits that I didnt buy were spare parts that were collecting dust so it made sense to me to go down this path. If you dont have a bits box or mates with old parts they can throw your way it might make more sense to just buy a NAS box. Im really happy with my file server though. I got it set up and running last week and havent had any problems with it. I had to make a little caddy to put the 2.5" system drive in the floppy tray in the case but other than that its been awsome.

 

In relation to power consumption, I dont have any tools at home to measure the wattage being drawn by the PSU, but...using this online calculator it rates it at 126W, which would probably be about right...about 2 lightbulbs lol..

 

I'll throw up some pics if you're interested.

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I had thought of making a freenas box but there is enough computers around the house already.

Um a NAS is actually just a very specialised computer with an embedded OS designed specifically for it's purpose.

 

Only those that are consumer devices from a brand, you can use FreeNAS or OpenFiler which are linux ditros that have been customised to suit NAS/SAN applications.

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Thats right, its a bit of a toss up between a file server which has added functionality but obviously larger size and generally larger power consumption, and a NAS which is minimal and functional.

....

 

Case: Lian Li PC-8B Black - $145 pccasegear.com (awsome looking case, Lian Li are the bomb)

...

 

= $651

Hrm, Tough decision...

Very convincing as they are all quality parts too.

If I were to build one, and I would if I wanted more than 4 bays (jumps to $2,500 for 8 bays) I would certainly try Clark Connect it looks like its pretty slick. Pics are always good :)

Also looked up that case, looks perfect for the job.

However the size, 177 x 180 x 235mm vs 210mm x 450mm x 490mm is a huge difference.

 

I'm now looking at the QNAP TS-410 Details

I can get it for $649 locally.

Its not so much minimal as you might think, with 2xESATA, Auto sync backup, iTunes, SQL, WEB, FTP and UPnP Media servers, Torrents and security cameras.

Sure I can do all that with a custom build, but that will take a lot of effort.

I'm undecided.

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Hrm, Tough decision...

Very convincing as they are all quality parts too.

If I were to build one, and I would if I wanted more than 4 bays (jumps to $2,500 for 8 bays) I would certainly try Clark Connect it looks like its pretty slick. Pics are always good :)

Also looked up that case, looks perfect for the job.

However the size, 177 x 180 x 235mm vs 210mm x 450mm x 490mm is a huge difference.

 

I'm now looking at the QNAP TS-410 Details

I can get it for $649 locally.

Its not so much minimal as you might think, with 2xESATA, Auto sync backup, iTunes, SQL, WEB, FTP and UPnP Media servers, Torrents and security cameras.

Sure I can do all that with a custom build, but that will take a lot of effort.

I'm undecided.

yeah man that NAS looks the biz, looks like legit hardware

 

i didnt realise it had all that functionality... Im a massive advocate of Clark Connect, I like its simplicity and functionality, I actually learnt of it on this forum a couple of years ago

 

the reason i went with a file server was simply that a NAS was going to be too expensive, I couldnt justify $1000+ for file storage when there were cheaper options, as much as I wanted a NAS for its size, power consumption and overall coolness I was happy to settle with a computerish solution

 

but hey, if you've got the cash, go with the NAS, as you said before better than another computer taking up space

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