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Just got back from it, and I'm ready to go firebomb a florist.

 

Murderers.

 

That aside, the 3D was pretty cool, and worked with the 3D glasses over my normal glasses well. Sam Worthington channeled the fuck out of Ewan McGregor, Sigourney Weaver's looking pretty hot for an old bird, and I feel like I just sat through a three hour commercial for Greenpeace and World Of Warcraft.

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It must be me.

 

I can't stand the cheese no more.

No, not just you. It tries patronisingly to preach a message that is nothing more than the garbage of some romantic nostalgia for something that doesnt exist. Truly trite. I wish Cameron had went Aliens style, at least then I could have sat back and enjoyed the movie for it's CG (in Aliens case action + CG), and not be concerned with some preachy message of romantic nostalgia. I hate almost nothing more than such sermons.

 

It would seem many people are too braindead to understand the literacies being bandied around these days. All they see are dragonriders and big gunships, and they say, 'Woooooaaahhh coooolll'.

 

/sigh

 

"Romantic nostalgia" for what? "Preach"ing what? you have totally failed to explain what your objections to the film actually are.

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I honestly didn't get much from the 3D effect at all. Discussed this with my four-eyes programmer mate who watched it with me and we are postulating it may be because we wear glasses. Can any other four-eyed people verify this?

Did you watch it with the polarising lenses over your glasses, or you took them off?

 

Over the top. I even tried glasses over the top for a few seconds :p

 

 

I honestly didn't get much from the 3D effect at all. Discussed this with my four-eyes programmer mate who watched it with me and we are postulating it may be because we wear glasses. Can any other four-eyed people verify this?

My four-eyed friend was more in awe of the 3D than I was.

 

Rob.

 

Hmm.. Perhaps it's just Mr wonky eyes here. :p

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"Romantic nostalgia" for what? "Preach"ing what? you have totally failed to explain what your objections to the film actually are.

You fail because you need everything spelled out for you. The game dont work that way, mon frere.

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You fail because you need everything spelled out for you. The game dont work that way, mon frere.

Without any details of what you didn't like, your post was just a pointless whinge.

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Just got back from it, and I'm ready to go firebomb a florist.

 

Murderers.

 

That aside, the 3D was pretty cool, and worked with the 3D glasses over my normal glasses well. Sam Worthington channeled the fuck out of Ewan McGregor, Sigourney Weaver's looking pretty hot for an old bird, and I feel like I just sat through a three hour commercial for Greenpeace and World Of Warcraft.

Lol. Pretty much sums up my opinion of the movie as well.

 

Oh and to get into the glasses discussion as well, I've got a congenital cataract in one eye and didn't have any problem watching the movie with the polarising glasses on.

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Glad to see it's not just me that can't use those damn glasses.

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"Romantic nostalgia" for what? "Preach"ing what? you have totally failed to explain what your objections to the film actually are.

You fail because you need everything spelled out for you. The game dont work that way, mon frere.

 

Well the "game" does work that way if you want people to understand what you are talking about.

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Saw it (3D) a couple of days ago and absolutely loved it. I don't give a crap about the fact it was predictable and clichéd, I think it's a brilliantly put together piece of fantasy and I want to kick James Cameron in the nuts for making such a beautiful, fantastic world and having to leave the cinema and come back to this steaming pile of monkey vomit.

 

I'll be coming at this one like a nun sandwich when the 3D Blu-Ray hits the market.

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Well as usual Miranda Devine has cut to the heart of the matter and said what needs to be said (and was said by someone else in America last week. She is on time delay.)

 

Hit by the leftie sledgehammer

 

Since holiday movie-going is one of life's great pleasures, it's tempting not to put a dampener on Avatar, the sci-fi 3D semi-animated blockbuster that's raking it in at the box office.

 

After all, the creativity of the director, James Cameron, inventing a lush new planet peopled by hauntingly beautiful blue aliens can only be admired.

 

But, for all its technological brilliance and the talent that went into the creation of Pandora and the Na'vi characters, the movie ruins itself with Cameron's sanctimonious hippie sensibility.

 

It is impossible to watch Avatar without being banged over the head with the director's ideological hammer.

 

About the time the baddest bad guy - a US marine, of course - launches an unconscionable attack on the Na'vi with the words "Shock and awe", "pre-emptive war" and "fighting terror with terror", you realise you've been had. The snarling vipers of left-wing Hollywood have been let off the leash in a way previously unmatched in a high-priced blockbuster. In fact Avatar is reputed to be the most expensive movie ever made, with a budget of $US500 million.

 

Cameron has a simple formula:

 

Humans bad.

 

Planet (Gaia) good.

 

Noble savages good.

 

Flaky pagan worship good.

 

America bad.

 

American military very bad.

 

Capitalism bad.

 

Mining bad. Raping planet.

 

The only good soldier is a traitor.

 

Try as you might, by the second half of the movie, having sucked you in with its rich visuals and the sweetness of the disabled US marine Jake Sully (played by the Australian Sam Worthington), it's impossible to ignore the heavy-handed jibes. One gleeful Hollywood blogger sums up by saying the conservative pro-life US politician Sarah Palin would hate the movie "because Avatar hates her and her kind."

 

Cameron proudly declares Avatar is some sort of allegory for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, with the capitalist, imperialist Christian West the villain. He portrays the US soldiers who arrive on Pandora in the service of some multinational corporation as moronic, sadistic and determined to wipe out the peace-loving, nature-worshipping natives just so they can mine the valuable substance under their home.

 

"We know what it feels like to launch the missiles," Cameron told The Times. "We don't know what it feels like for them to land on our home soil, not in America. I think there's a moral responsibility to understand that." A self -described "child of the '60s" the Canadian-born director claims he is "opening" American eyes.

 

(Spoiler warning: plot revealed next.)

 

The triumph at the end of the movie occurs when the Na'vi slaughter the Americans, shooting down their helicopters and gunships.

 

It's extraordinary that, while American soldiers are dying in dangerous wars on foreign soil, a mainstream movie would show such cartoonish contempt for them.

 

Under Jake's leadership, and with the help of a female helicopter pilot who switches sides during the battle, the Na'vi's puny bows and arrows manage to foil the superior firepower of the arrogant humans. They also get a little help from the goddess-spirit of Pandora.

 

The blissful irony, I am not the first to point out, is that Cameron has used the most advanced technology known to man to create an anti-technology movie about how much better are the ways of the noble savage.

 

He also lets his Na'vi run rampant around Pandora, raping fauna with their ponytails before subjugating them. The flying dinosaurs seem particularly unimpressed at being leapt on and plugged into the Na'vi braid.

 

A minority of critics have dubbed the movie "Dances with Wolves in space", "cynical and deeply unpatriotic propaganda". That's not to deny Avatar's success. Its nature worship theme mines a rich vein. In a world suffering eco-fatigue, in which advertising clever dicks have pronounced blue the new green, Cameron has judged the zeitgeist well.

 

We all like to be Zen with the world. And Cameron has tapped into the religious impulse hardwired in his audience in the same way airport bookshops abound with New Age bestsellers such as The Secret.

 

But he defeats the purpose by indulging in the rancid partisanship that characterised the anti-Bush/anti-Howard left of the last decade. The pity is Avatar's in-your-face preaching only serves to annoy people, who will soon shrug off Cameron's accomplishments and forget whatever it was he was trying to say.

 

By contrast, District 9, a comparatively low budget ($US30 million) movie produced by The Lord of the Rings's Peter Jackson, which explores similar themes, haunts the viewer. Aliens arrive in Johannesburg, are locked in camps and are treated appallingly. The movie plumbs the worst of human behaviour, of xenophobia and ignorance, without being unrealistically misanthropic.

 

Avatar takes glee in the destruction of the humans on Pandora and an I-told-you-so smugness in the humans' "dying world" back home. "They have killed their mother."

 

Thankfully movies with more human-affirming themes increasingly are being made, from Juno, Knocked Up and The Blind Side to the young Sydney filmmaker Claire McCarthy's upcoming The Waiting City, about a couple waiting in India to take delivery of their adopted child. These stories you will remember long after Avatar has faded to blue.

 

Incidentally, for all the hype about Avatar's global box office domination, Alvin and the Chipmunks: The Squeakquel managed to knock Avatar off the top spot in Britain after only one week. And that's without the inflated ticket price charged for 3D glasses.

 

At least, on one non-blue note to take home for the new year, what the success of Avatar and the Chipmunks proves is that movies are far from dead.

 

One of the main reasons we keep going to movies is that it's a communal experience. Rather than watching some pirated download on your home theatre, you can share the experience with hundreds of strangers, part of one big symbiotic system, even though we're not plugging our ponytails into the seats just yet.

 

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/hit-by-the-l...00101-llpp.html

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Ah well. It did work for a short time. Meantime... (fixes post for address instead of hotlink)

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It does have an agenda- and blatantly so- but nevertheless there's probably a few things people can take away from it if they can ignore the 'derka der hippie liberal' alarm in their heads.

 

And I say this as the first person to rip the piss out of hippies/commies usually.

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Great flick, loadsafun and excellent use of the technology. Don't like left-leaning movies? Piss-off and watch the news!

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went to see it for the second time tonight. loved it just as much as the first viewing. can't wait for the dvd to come out.

 

this was also the first time i've seen the alice in wonderland trailer in 3d. that's looking pretty special too... some great effects there :)

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Saw it the other day in 3D. I liked it very much. The one thing that i just realised is that not once during the movie did I think to myself "that looks fake, that's CGI" which is something i tend to do when things look out of place. I'm quite impressed with that.

 

I like the 3D as well, it wasn't over exaggerated throwing things in your face, just there to enhance the movie.

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Did anyone notice the photos stuck on the fridge door in the remote station were 3D...so we were actually looking at 3D within 3D. My mind is attempting back flips....

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I honestly didn't get much from the 3D effect at all. Discussed this with my four-eyes programmer mate who watched it with me and we are postulating it may be because we wear glasses. Can any other four-eyed people verify this?

Did you watch it with the polarising lenses over your glasses, or you took them off?

 

Over the top. I even tried glasses over the top for a few seconds :p

 

 

I honestly didn't get much from the 3D effect at all. Discussed this with my four-eyes programmer mate who watched it with me and we are postulating it may be because we wear glasses. Can any other four-eyed people verify this?

My four-eyed friend was more in awe of the 3D than I was.

 

Rob.

 

Hmm.. Perhaps it's just Mr wonky eyes here. :p

 

It worked OK for me and my astigmatisms, although I was wearing contacts. The polarising was much easier on my eyes than the old red and blue version.

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I didnt think it was a remake of Pocahnotas... Last Samurai or Dances of Wolves perhaps.

 

Just saw it today in 3d, pretty amazing. Not the deepest or best movie I have ever seen, but as far as cinema going experiences and entertainment goes, incredible.

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I didnt think it was a remake of Pocahnotas... Last Samurai or Dances of Wolves perhaps.

Check out the image I linked at #186. Ok, so it's humour, not a comprehensive film report, but that's a pretty strong plot correlation.

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I really want to see this now but it's sold out in 3D for a few days. Should i just see it in 2D or is it worth waiting to see it in 3D?

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