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How would you guys counter muta harassing as terran, that shit keeps me in my base so I can't expand and can't get map control!

Couple of tips.


1. Terran have *amazing* scouting ability via CommSat scans.


2. Watch the replays where you get Muta harassed. Turn on the in game clock. Note the time when the zerg player threw down his spire (and the location).

This will give you a clue as you when you should think about scanning his base to see what he's doing.


3. Marines *eat* Mutalisks. Throwing down a bunker with a few marines in it is more than enough to discourage attacks on your mineral line.


4. Do. Not. Let. Zerg. Expand. Apply early pressure and make sure that you don't just set back and let them expand. Zerg need the extra base advantage.

Grab 4-5 banshee's and go base hunting.


5. If you see zerg going Air, get some vikings in the air. If you can keep Mutalisk numbers down, you can manage them. If you allow them to reach critical mass, they'll basically *eat* what ever you throw at them.


6. Always watch your replays and get a feel for what your opponent is doing.


The bunker tip, the critical mass tip and the banshee idea helped heaps, thanks!


Just make sure you dont use Comsat too much from your orbital command. The mules are HEAPS more worth the energy as the amount of resources they churn out for your army is incredible value. Just do a quick banshee harrass and get it to check out what the zerg is doing for scouting. Missle turrets despite being 100 minerals are still a affordable prospect build a few of them in good places around mineral line once you see spire and focus all you can on a good terran ball. Keep the pressure on the zerg. Do that good'ol hellion harrass. you'll make them go roach most of the time and that will lead to another nice story.


I'm a dedicated zerg player so i feel kinda awkward now...


Hope that helps though. this comes from a platinum so its not that stupid. :P (not me)

Edited by geekytalon

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Patch 1.2.0 has been released in the SEA region


StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty – Patch 1.2.0




Battle.net Chat Channels have been added! Players can now join others in both public and private channels.

Added in-game chat bar command to whisper to other players. Using the "/w" command will open up a list of available friends, party members, chat channels, and other players within your current game.

Added Battle.net option to auto-join previous private channels.

Added Battle.net option to prevent chat channel text from appearing in in-game chat display.

A new Master League has been added! This league now represents the highest tier of players.

Customizable Hotkey Support has been added.

Stalemate Detection has been added. This will end the game in a tie for all remaining players if no players have income, production, or destroyed structures for three consecutive minutes. A countdown timer will now appear when the game detects this scenario.

An Extreme graphics option is now available. Players can now configure screen space ambient occlusion.



Additional Improvements and Changes


Several help dialogue and tech tree improvements have been made:

In-game help is now available in Battle.net.

The help dialog’s tech tree has been improved.

Unit information in the help dialog now displays abilities and upgrades.

Several Save/Replay File dialogue improvements have been made:

Added ability to sort replays and saved games by name and date.

Added ability to right-click and rename a replay or saved game from within the game interface.

Added a new tab for auto-saved games and unsaved replays.

Added an option to permanently save all replays. Checking this option will mark all unsaved replays as being saved.

Added visibility for where replays and saved games are being saved to.

Added a "Show in Folder" button which will open the location where a replay or saved game is stored on your computer.

Camera following behavior for observers and replays has been improved.

The System Alert panel has been moved to the top of the screen and the duration of most system alerts has been reduced.

Mouse buttons can now be bound to the Push-To-Talk hotkey.

A hotkey indicator option has been added to show the primary hotkey on top of command buttons.

When selecting a Vespene geyser, the number of current harvesters will be displayed in the info panel.

Added an option to disable any error sounds. The Response Sounds checkbox now controls whether unit-specific audio is used for error sounds instead of a generic buzz.

Added Game UI layout per-map overrides. Map makers can now use custom UI layout files to create new UI or override existing game UI.

Added a toggle button to the in-game replay panel to Show or Hide the timeline/duration information.

Added hotkey to Pause/Resume game for both single player and multiplayer (Pause/Break key).






Players can no longer block off ramps with two 2x2 buildings.


Hallucination research time decreased from 110 to 80.


Cost decreased from 50/100 to 25/75.


Build time decreased from 45 to 35.

Void Ray

Now deals 20% more damage to massive targets.

Flux Vanes speed upgrade removed.



Repairing SCVs now assume the same threat priority as the unit they’re repairing.

SCV construction movement has been made more consistent.



StarCraft II Editor Improvements


Map locale management has been added.

Further editor tips and hints have been added.

New trigger functions, actions, and events have been added:

New trigger functions:

Verify Bank - used to verify that a bank’s signature is intact.

New trigger actions:

Bank Option - used to change options for banks including adding a signature.

Remove Inventory Item - used to instantly remove a requested item from an inventory.

Set Visibility Type Of Text Tag - used to control whether fog or black mask hides the tag.

New trigger events:

Mouse Moved - sent in response to the mouse being moved in the game world.

New unit properties have been added:

Carried Minerals, Carried Vespene, Carried Terrazine, and Carried Custom Resource.

Bounty (XP) - used to grant experience when a unit is killed.

New Effect Used event property has been added: Life, Shields, and Energy changed.

Copy/paste support has been added to the upgrade editor.

Behaviors can now be replaced by either the shortest duration (the original method) or by farthest distance.

Behavior abilities can now properly charge the player using the ability instead of always charging the owner.

Right clicking an item in an inventory will now have the icon appear immediately next to the cursor.

Font Style Files can now be added to Mods and Maps using the FontStyleFileArray field in GameUIData. Existing styles can have their individual attributes overridden or entirely new styles can be added.

UI Layout files can now be added to Mods and Maps using the CustomLayoutFileArray filed in GameUIData. Most existing frames can be modified or overridden and entirely new templates can be added which can be created from the Dialog system within the Editor.

Attributes and values can now be hidden in the game lobby and can be configured through Game Variants.

The mouse wheel now scrolls the control under the cursor.

Copied doodads now retain their height offset.

Attribute and Veterancy behaviors now normalize vitals when new levels are applied.

Mouse clicks & highlights are now allowed while in relative camera mode.

Edit boxes are now available for trigger dialogs.

The game will now properly find custom imported files within mods.

Maps can now depend on even more mods.

Dialog Items can now be hooked up from already existing frames within a created Panel.

Change Focus commands are now available in the Trigger module View menu for switching input focus directly to different areas.

The water editor layout has been improved.

Effect offsets can now optionally contain a Z component.

Added a new type of Dialog Item called Panel. Panels are containers for other dialog items to help with grouping and hierarchy.

Added new UI to insert text tags for data references, unit info, and hotkeys.

Added an effect range to the effect ability to restrict how far away the effect can be placed. This will allow effects to behave like the Stalker Blink effect.

Added a behavior flag to suppress fidgeting.

Added a new stalemate melee option to determine whether the stalemate detection checking is enforced.

Added a new “Creator” player to effects. It will be set to the player issuing an order if available.

Added a new type of item that can use an effect ability.

Added a validator that checks to see if a unit can path to a point.

Added a validator that checks if there is a cliff between two points.

Added MinimapRenderPriority to CActorUnit and MinimapRenderPriorityList to CActorGlobalConfig. This allows custom map makers to define the render priorities of units on the minimap.

Added a Locale sub-menu in the Mod menu for changing the active text locale for the current document.

Added a Mod Info dialog in the Mod menu for more easily changing mod name and description text.

Added a Modify Locales dialog (also in Locale sub-menu) for adding or removing text locales.

Added an Editor Tips dialog in the Help menu (and optionally on start up) with tips for using the editor effectively.



Bug Fixes




All diagonal ramps are now the same with regards to unbuildable locations at the bottom of the ramps.

Critter health bars are now hidden unless highlighted or selected (if status bars are set to show when units are selected).

Orders can no longer be canceled by clicking on the info panel in challenges before the challenge begins.

Text tags are now paused when the game is paused.

Autocast state for abilities will now reset to the default state when unit ownership is permanently changed.

Autocast repair will now charge the player requesting autocast functionality.

Repair will now clear its autocast state if the owning player leaves the game.

Harvest orders no longer end if an order is queued while waiting to return cargo.

Harvesting units no longer avoid enemy units.

Hold position units no longer automatically move out of the way when placing a building.

Enemy units no longer show passive buttons in the command card.

Missiles are no longer affected by Vortex.

Actors with a large number of create events no longer crash the map.

Fixed an issue where cliff jumping units were able to traverse unpathable terrain.

Fixed an issue with units trying to get out of the way so buildings can be constructed.

Fixed an issue with harvesting units bypassing force fields.

Fixed an issue where melee units were unable to attack a colossus when it was on a cliff.

Fixed an issue where larva would not wander around.

Fixed an issues where loading a saved Challenge could improperly overwrite the best score.

Fixed an issue with animation stutters when flying units are separating.

Fixed an issue where units could push opposing units when they shouldn't have been able to.

Added "Detector" text to the info panel for units which can detect cloaked or burrowed units.

Added combat reveal tinting to help show that combat reveal units cannot be hit.


Protoss structures can no longer be powered without a power source if constructed while powered by a Warp Prism under the effects of Neural Parasite.

Mass Recall can no longer target larva or eggs.

Fixed an issue where units that were picked up by a Graviton Beam would still block pathing on the ground.

Fixed an issue where a Zealot could burn its Charge cooldown without actually moving.


Changed the position of the Select Builder button on Terran buildings, and changed the hotkey to Q.

SCVs can no longer continue construction on a building from inside an adjacent bunker.

Fixed nuke dot not being visible all the time.

Fixed an issue where you could see an enemy MULE drop pod in some cases where you didn’t have vision of the target location.

Fixed an issue where a Medivac would be able to continue healing a unit that was stuck in a Graviton Beam if the Medivac had started healing the unit before it was picked up by the Graviton Beam.

Fixed an issue where a Thor would continue to channel 250mm Strike Cannons on an uplifted Terran building if it lifted off at just the right time.

Fixed an issue where a Thor could get stuck channeling if a player queued up multiple targets for 250mm Strike Cannons.

Fixed an issue where SCVs could continue repairing at a short range even though the structure they were repairing was blocked by Force Fields.


Creep will now spread evenly in all directions.

The Burrow and Cancel Neural Parasite buttons have been moved on the command card.

Fixed an issue with Ultralisk unable to attack a row of sensor towers.

StarCraft II Editor

The “For Each Real” and “For Each Integer” actions will now correctly execute once when the starting and ending bounds are equal while the increment is also zero.

Items dropped from an inventory will now use their default height when dropped.

The View Script command will now view library scripts if the library list has focus.

Carried and equipped item behaviors and weapons are now restored properly when a unit is revived.

Publish dialog now updates storage information after removing a published file in the Managed Published window.

Dropdowns now correctly select items as you type using partial matching.

Standard dependencies can no longer be modified in the Dependencies dialog (only added or removed).

Camera following can no longer be disabled via hotkeys if it was requested via triggers.

Fixed an issue with editing stylized text values when using system locales other than English.

Fixed an issue with Veterancy experience share filters.

Fixed an issue when editing mover data where values were not being saved correctly.

Fixed an issue that prevented certain changes to angle values.

Fixed an issue where selection circles would drop when a flying unit was over a cliff.

Fixed an issue where the scroll bar for tree views could disappear.

Fixed an issue where triggers setting the mouse relative could result in the mouse being stuck in relative move mode.

Fixed an issue where setting the color of a dialog item of type label wasn’t working.

Fixed a crash that could occur while editing upgrade values.

Fixed text truncation with Set Text actor message.

Fixed display of ability command links in the Overview Manager.

Fixed many areas where English text was displayed instead of localized text.

Fixed a crash when destroying a persistent effect.

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Speed nerf but better against carriers, BCs, Thors, Collosi, Ultralistks.

Does that affect buildings too?


Speed nerf for dmg against massive is a good change!


economic/build speed fixes for observers and phoenixes.

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I only play zerg, so it's pretty much great for me. I don't use ultralisks alot, well unless doing a sneaky nidus, at which point it's too late for voids

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Well they have nerfed the double pylon at the bottom of the ramp - 2x2 buildings - for cannon rushes.


You can still block off your own ramp with a 2x2 and a 3x3 building.

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Nothing in regards to balance or unit changes and there does not seem to be any new maps. Here are the Patch Notes

StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty – Patch 1.2.1


Matchmaking has been updated to better match players queuing with pre-made teams in 2v2, 3v3, and 4v4 brackets.

Bug Fixes


Fixed an issue where the title of a conversation window was scaling rather than truncating.

Fixed an issue where the Match History score screen was displaying “Null” for the map info for all games played before Patch 1.2.

Fixed an issue that would sometimes cause players to be improperly disconnected from a game.

(Mac) Fixed an issue that would cause the Control key to become stuck when holding Control and minimizing the game window, then going back to the game window and attempting to use Control+1 to create a control group.


Fixed an issue with foliage that would die and become visible through the fog of war when a player spawned as zerg.

StarCraft II Editor

Fixed an issue where copied-and-pasted units were not set to the correct height in-game.

Fixed an issue where the table view scroll-bar position was reset when switching objects.

Fixed an issue where secondary sort priorities were not working properly. Model name is now the secondary sort so that models are listed in alphabetical order after being sorted by the mod they are contained in.

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Known Bugs - http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/2089200150


• In Progress Mission saves made in 1.2.0 will not work when loaded in 1.2.1

We are aware of an issue with in progress saves not being available between game versions. Victory saves appear to be unaffected by this issue so that players can reload their campaign progress without having to start a new campaign if they have a victory or mission completion save available through Load instead of Continue Campaign. We’re working towards a fix and are very sorry for any inconvenience this has caused our players.


• Spawn Creep Tumor from a Creep Tumor cannot be customized

We are aware that the Creep Tumor does not appear in the Zerg tab of the Custom Hotkeys dialog. We're working towards a solution and are sorry for the inconvenience.


• Vespene Geysers that are taken by your opponent sometimes flash on the minimap

Occasionally, captured geysers will blink and appear unclaimed on the mini-map, we're aware of the issue and are investigating the cause.

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I have a spine crawler trick for ZvZ coming soon. Yet to try out the 6/7 pool and roach rush.

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Yeah I'm not sure how you can Zerg can rush non Zerg though. I've been trying something with a early pool and extractor > zergling rush with burrow to harass the harvestors with mixed success.


Also not sure how you get that first spine out with the harass the drones do as soon as you get into sight on creep.

Edited by psyckle

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I've seen people 6 pool, then rush in with 6 lings, all their harvestors, and they use 2 of their harvestors to do 2 spine crawlers on the opponents creep. As that's setting up, you take out their harvestors, don't let them get a surround on your crawlers.


I've also seen this fail.

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No need for lings in ZvZ


You can 6 pool and then send 3 drones to the enemy main

Morph two drones as spines and micro your third


Placement is crucial for the spines though - see my clip below



And my cannon rush with achievements


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Damn cheesers :P


There are variations on that, I've mostly seen people rush with lings, it's easy and more threatening however, it takes longer. Either way, you're cheesing, so if it doesn't work, you're screwed :)

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Cutscenes, like any game, are good, and look nice, but is such a small part of the game it's not funny (in most games I might add).


As for the game itself, it's awesome :) if you like Starcraft, you'll love Starcraft 2!

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mojo - its a must get - its all I am playing at the moment.


Those clips are for the Insane AI Custom Game Achievements - you have to cheese as they get a mineral mining boost. Its almost impossible to get into a macro game with Insane AI.

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