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Just wondering what the general consensus is on running 8Gb in win 7 64bit

 

its never a bad thing to have more RAM but are there any notable perf gains?

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Depends on the applications/games you're running.

 

I much prefer 6gb over 4gb although the difference is probably not really there, it just feels quicker.

 

Could also be because I've moved to lower timing 1600mhz ddr3.

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Why do you need more ram how is 4gb not enough?

 

 

wait..why did you buy 4gb of ram for your i7 930?

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I'm Running Windows 7 x64 with 8GB Ram.

 

For games I doubt you will notice any difference between 4 and 8GB. I got 8GB because a) I sometimes have a few virtual machines running and b) It's pretty cheap so why not? :-)

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6-8g can help make things load a bit quicker and feel a bit more snappy but games themselves dont use over 4g yet unfortunately although some go close now once you take out the ~1g windows\apps use

i think games have been slow progressing in memory usage due to the transition to 64bit

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Running 8 gig of ddr2 800, I did it because I could as when I brought it ddr2 was cheap as. I do run LOTS of apps at the same time, and I doubt I ever come close to using it all but what the hell :D

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Given this is a discussion about windows performance (32 vs 64 bit and various amounts of memory etc) rather than about the actual memory, I might pop this over to the windose area for comments. :)

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To be honest 8GB doesn't even cut it any more :) 16GB is seeming the way to go, at least in my specialised neck of the woods: software development. There are massive massive improvements to be hand in performance, if you don't want to be closing applications all the time and especially if you don't have an SSD. The last thing you want to do is have the OS start using the HDD as virtual RAM.

 

Unless the game is 64 bit it can't address more than 4GB of ram anyway, so if you're a gamer and you don't run a bunch of apps while you game, there's very little benefit in having more than say 6GB.

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Depends on your usage. If your system is resorting to using virtual memory more than enough to bug you, than yes, more RAM is worthwhile.

 

If you don't have an SSD though, that would be my first upgrade to a system with 4GB RAM that needed more of the type of performance you seem to be targeting.

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Why do you need more ram how is 4gb not enough?

 

 

wait..why did you buy 4gb of ram for your i7 930?

 

 

ergh dont make me feel bad mudg3, i couldnt afford the triple channel kit at the time + i was running XP. it was a very short sighted decision that i regret

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Why do you need more ram how is 4gb not enough?

 

 

wait..why did you buy 4gb of ram for your i7 930?

 

 

ergh dont make me feel bad mudg3, i couldnt afford the triple channel kit at the time + i was running XP. it was a very short sighted decision that i regret

 

 

Simple enough reason man, I'm not trying to make you feel bad. Dual channel will work fine. My 2nd rig is a X58 board too and its a 4gb kit too.

 

Do you even use the full 4gb? Do you do VM's?

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i have 8Gb of RAM for my PC but only use 4Gb due to the other pair being unmatched and only working on auto settings in the bios, however going from 8 back to 4 i noticed zero difference in general or gaming performance making the switch. however im of the opinion that the more the merrier and if the other pair would work at their stated speeds i would have it in there just for kicks.

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Why do you need more ram how is 4gb not enough?

 

 

wait..why did you buy 4gb of ram for your i7 930?

 

 

ergh dont make me feel bad mudg3, i couldnt afford the triple channel kit at the time + i was running XP. it was a very short sighted decision that i regret

 

 

Simple enough reason man, I'm not trying to make you feel bad. Dual channel will work fine. My 2nd rig is a X58 board too and its a 4gb kit too.

 

Do you even use the full 4gb? Do you do VM's?

 

Heh, thanks :)

Its a source of annoyance for me though - just wish i could take the dual channel back and fork out for triple. Live and learn.

I don't run VM - just game and multitask

I read an article a few days ago about a win7 survey over a few thousand machines that said 80% of win7 machines used pretty much all the ram you could throw at them...ill see if i can find it

 

 

http://www.thebuzzmedia.com/windows-7-4gb-...gb-performance/

http://www.thebuzzmedia.com/85-of-windows-...-of-system-ram/

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I read an article a few days ago about a win7 survey over a few thousand machines that said 80% of win7 machines used pretty much all the ram you could throw at them...ill see if i can find it

 

http://www.thebuzzmedia.com/windows-7-4gb-...gb-performance/

http://www.thebuzzmedia.com/85-of-windows-...-of-system-ram/

That's a little misleading. As the article alludes to, it is to do with the win 7's 'Standby' (cache) ram allocation. And clearly 16GB isn't going to be fully utilised by windows 7, especially with way you use your system. Expect a slight gain going to 8GB but don't expect games to magically jump 10fps or the user experience to suddenly increase by a noticeable amount.

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I've only got 4GB/ 32 bit Win 7, I'm recording with the TV card ATM and my meter says 47%.

Only other things running is Opera, MSN and utorrent.

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I think there was an article on Atomic mag sometime ago regarding the RAM usage. Unless you are doing something really specific like 3D rendering, most of the 4GB really doesnt get used. However, back to the discussion at hand, mainstream users, and gamers in particular, will not see a boost by going from 4GB to 8GB as grazer points out. I hardly saw the difference myself going from 2GB to 4GB. Of course, I upgraded to a SSD at the same time which really put any observable gains from a RAM upgrade clearly in the background.

 

IMHO, I dont see the point of going from 4GB to something higher, at least for your type of usage. Looking at your build, there is nothing short of a CPU and GPU upgrade that will get you the performance gain that you seek. However, since its your money, why dont you buy it anyway? For the money though, it just doesnt make sense to do so. Spend it on getting something else for your system.

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Why do you need more ram how is 4gb not enough?

 

 

wait..why did you buy 4gb of ram for your i7 930?

 

 

ergh dont make me feel bad mudg3, i couldnt afford the triple channel kit at the time + i was running XP. it was a very short sighted decision that i regret

 

 

Simple enough reason man, I'm not trying to make you feel bad. Dual channel will work fine. My 2nd rig is a X58 board too and its a 4gb kit too.

 

Do you even use the full 4gb? Do you do VM's?

 

Heh, thanks :)

Its a source of annoyance for me though - just wish i could take the dual channel back and fork out for triple. Live and learn.

I don't run VM - just game and multitask

I read an article a few days ago about a win7 survey over a few thousand machines that said 80% of win7 machines used pretty much all the ram you could throw at them...ill see if i can find it

 

 

http://www.thebuzzmedia.com/windows-7-4gb-...gb-performance/

http://www.thebuzzmedia.com/85-of-windows-...-of-system-ram/

 

 

There isnt any need for more ram at all. 4gb kit will be fine.

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I'm using 4GB atm and am still happy with it for games and everyday use. Keeping in mind that I'm still on DDR2.

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Anymore than a 4GB under 32bit is completely pointless for obvious limitation reasons. Dont forget about the video card memory in the equation as well under a 32bit and 64bit OS ;-)

 

Any more than a triple channel 6 Gb kit under 64Bit will result in no real perf increase for 99.00% of people based at the very least around the requirements of virtually all current software.

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I'm trying 2x2gb extra of Team Dark Extreem (left over's) just for shits'n'giggles. TBH I can see the difference when opening a folder full of pic's but thats about it.

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Anymore than a 4GB under 32bit is completely pointless

Not necessarily. 32bit systems have been able to access >4GB of memory for quite a while, via PAE.

 

Rob.

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Anymore than a 4GB under 32bit is completely pointless

Not necessarily. 32bit systems have been able to access >4GB of memory for quite a while, via PAE.

 

Rob.

 

Not on non server Windows, where > 4GB remains pointless

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