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Hey all,

 

I have just done my tax and I'm getting about $1500 back from it. I want to spend the money on some upgrades. I need the following though:

 

Mobo

RAM

CPU

Video Card

 

Can someone give me some good advice on what to spend the money on please. I will be using it for Gaming, Virtual machines and streaming media.

 

Thanks all :)

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probably like:

 

-i7 860 or i5 750

-Gigabyte P55A UD3R

-4gb generic DDR3

-Nvidia GTX460 1gb

 

should come to about $9-950

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I like my pants logic :)

 

Thanks newquick. Is it better ot go the i7 860 over the AMD Phenom ii x6 1090T for gaming and Virtual machines?

 

I can spend up to $1500 for these parts as well so I can throw more things at if you think its worth it?

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I am in the same dilemma, Mills.

 

The X6 review in Atomic put me in two minds.

I was thinking i5 or i7, but now I'm not sure what I'll get.

 

I'm probably not upgrading for a couple of months though

 

Just got my Fractal case and new Noctua heatsink kit.

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Something like this ;

 

CPU: $249 I5-750 (PCCG)

MoBo: $174 Gigabyte P55A-UD3R (MSY)

RAM: $143 4GB Kit DDR3 1600 G.Skill-Ripjaws (MSY)

GFX: $342 Powercolor or HIS HD5850 1GB (MSY)

Total: $908

 

OR

 

CPU: $359 I7-930 (PCCG)

MoBo: $261 Gigabyte X58A-UD3R (MSY)

RAM: $239 G.Skill PI Series F3-12800CL7T-6GBPI 6GB (3x2GB) DDR3 (PCCG)

GFX: $457 Gigabyte HD5870 1GB (MSY)

Total: $1319

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Thanks newquick. Is it better ot go the i7 860 over the AMD Phenom ii x6 1090T for gaming and Virtual machines?

The virtual machines would probably have more breathing room on six physical cores rather than 4 physical, 4 logical.

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crap just remembered I need to add a PSU to this as well :)

 

SceptreCore thats exactly what I was thinking. But will all the cores be used?

 

Logic: The Atomic mag is doing that to me. Im sorta thinking of going the XFX 5770, G.Skill RipJaws, Corsair HX-520 PSu but no idea on CPU and mobo.

 

Harro: I like the second build you have there. What PSU would you add to that?

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crap just remembered I need to add a PSU to this as well :)

 

SceptreCore thats exactly what I was thinking. But will all the cores be used?

 

Sceptre Core is right BUT I run up to 8 vm's at a time just of my single Xeon E5530 which is a i7. Are you going to need more then that?

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I want to run 3 server 2008 machines at once with one windows 7 and one XP machine. So total of 5 machines at once.

 

How smoothly does it run when you have all 8 running though?

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I want to run 3 server 2008 machines at once with one windows 7 and one XP machine. So total of 5 machines at once.

 

How smoothly does it run when you have all 8 running though?

 

 

Runs fine dude. Even with all App's running on them.

 

I find its my HDD's that slow anything down. I want to get an SSD just for my VM's

 

If I was you though I would go the i7 860 a Gigabyte GA-P55A-UD3R simply for good price and USB 3 the gskill ripjaws and the PSU you listed

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Logic: The Atomic mag is doing that to me. Im sorta thinking of going the XFX 5770, G.Skill RipJaws, Corsair HX-520 PSu but no idea on CPU and mobo.

Do yourself a favor forget what atomic says ;)

 

the i7's are better for gaming and will handle that many VM's fine.

 

the GTX460 1gb is also the new 5770 and is significantly better than it.

 

PSU, Antec Neo Eco are pretty good value for money at around $60

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I found the 460 Im just not sure on the price compared to other cards. I know its better then the 5770 but its just over $100 more too. Is it on par with say a 5850? I can't get the 502W PSU either so Im thinking I will go the 850 as I do have 5 Hard drives to power as well.

 

Whats the difference between the i7 930 and i7860? The price is about the same and the speed is as well. So Im assuming Im missing something?

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crap just remembered I need to add a PSU to this as well :)

 

Harro: I like the second build you have there. What PSU would you add to that?

Id be looking at something around $150

 

Antec True Power TP-750 for $149 (PCCG)

 

or

 

Corsair HX-650 for $149 (MSY or PCCG)

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Whats the difference between the i7 930 and i7860? The price is about the same and the speed is as well. So Im assuming Im missing something?

They both perform roughly the same. The difference is the i7-930 is 1366 socket and uses the X58 Mobos with Tri-channel RAM (upto 6 slots), these motherboards and the extra RAM stick add extra to the cost.

 

The i7-860 is 1156 socket and uses P55 Mobos with Dual channel RAM (upto 4 slots). The i7-860 uses the same motherboards as the i5-750 so you could swap out these parts.

 

 

Intel Core i7-930 Processor (8M Cache, 2.80 GHz) MaxTD 130W 4 cores/ 8 threads 1366 Socket

Intel Core i7-860 Processor (8M Cache, 2.80 GHz) MaxTD 95W 4 cores/8 threads 1156 Socket

Intel Core i5-750 Processor (8M Cache, 2.66 GHz) MaxTD 95W 4 Cores/4 Threads 1156 Socket

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Something like this ;

 

CPU: $249 I5-750 (PCCG)

MoBo: $174 Gigabyte P55A-UD3R (MSY)

RAM: $143 4GB Kit DDR3 1600 G.Skill-Ripjaws (MSY)

GFX: $342 Powercolor or HIS HD5850 1GB (MSY)

Total: $908

 

OR

 

CPU: $359 I7-930 (PCCG)

MoBo: $261 Gigabyte X58A-UD3R (MSY)

RAM: $239 G.Skill PI Series F3-12800CL7T-6GBPI 6GB (3x2GB) DDR3 (PCCG)

GFX: $457 Gigabyte HD5870 1GB (MSY)

Total: $1319

Option 2 is very good

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use harro's second build with the powercolor 5870, and a corsair HX650 or a Seasonic x-series 650w (if you can afford it)

the x-series ones are really nice though. completely modular, 80 plus gold and such.

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I can't get the 502W PSU either so Im thinking I will go the 850 as I do have 5 Hard drives to power as well.

Why?

 

you only need a good quality 4-450w for that kind of build...

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nesquick: You think a Corsair VX-450 is ok then?

 

Raxo I was leaning towards that. All the parts I can get from my MSY around the corner as well :)

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nesquick: You think a Corsair VX-450 is ok then?

 

Yep.

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ok looks like the i7 870 is dirt cheap now ($359) so this is what I think I will go with. Ideas please:

 

Intel Core i7-870 2.93Ghz

Powercolor 1GB 5870

G.Skill Ripjaws 4GB Kit

Gigabyte P55A-UD3R P55

Corsair HX-750 ATX (I was told for that powercolor Videocard I need a 650w minimum PSU)

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ok looks like the i7 870 is dirt cheap now ($359) so this is what I think I will go with. Ideas please:

 

Intel Core i7-870 2.93Ghz

Powercolor 1GB 5870

G.Skill Ripjaws 4GB Kit

Gigabyte P55A-UD3R P55

Corsair HX-750 ATX (I was told for that powercolor Videocard I need a 650w minimum PSU)

I doubt it needs a 650w min

 

add it up.

 

-i7 870 ~95w

-HD5870 ~175w

mobo ~25w

ram ~20w

fans ~7w

hard drives ~5w each

 

under maximum draw (which your unlikely to ever encounter) youd be looking at around 350w MAX (~30Amps) draw assuming you manage to get everything running full tilt which like I said is something that never happens unless your running like LinX, furmark and copying files between all your drives.

 

So in theory something like a HX520 would also be fine but I would go with a HX650 that will allow you to add another 5870 down the track, I wish I knew who keeps telling you to buy a PSU with massive wattage....

 

hell it would even run on a decent 400w PSU but it would be above the ideal power draw with regards to efficency curves.

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