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OK, so WTF is going on with Atomic?

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In the end it was said the thread went because information was divulged that was legally not on... or some such.

 

Yeah, there was some shit we needed to jump on because we had to maintain a certain level on anonymity, we couldn't just delete certain posts. And, at the same time, a lot of people were for the experiment of losing WOYM.

 

So it got axed.

 

Trust me, the stuff that went on behind the scenes with the forums was pretty intense at times, and I lost more than a few nights' sleep wondering when the axe might fall.

 

What, with the amount of RTM's coming at you and the Mods ? - Please, do not be thinking I'm making light of the

work involved, that is not what I want to convey here. - I can only try to feel the pain of it all, and without wanting to sound

too glib, that is what comes of an active forum, pain :)

 

@ twinair.

grifter was saying hello. A few posts were deleted. Not the end of the world stuff but it happened anyway.

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Grifter? Never heard of him.

 

We must be talking about two different things.


Please, do not be thinking I'm making light of the work involved

Indeed!

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Yeah, the case I'm thinking of was much messier, and required much legal counsel.

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Grifter? Never heard of him.

 

We must be talking about two different things.

 

 

http://forums.atomicmpc.com.au/index.php/topic/57613-hello-all/

 

Ha! I even posted in that thread, still couldn't remember it. But it must have been cleaned up before I commented....so what happened there? What's the big issue?

 

It wasn't a big issue. That's the issue imo. Cyb3r ( as is his right as a mod ) did not think some posts fitting for a "hello'

thread and removed them. As is still my right, I politely disagree.

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I missed it, so I can't comment on what was said and done. Not sure how bad the comments were. Given the short nature of the post, I doubt whether it descended into a shit fight though.

Perhaps he's just trying to molly coddle new users.

 

Please don't go! We are really nice people, I promise!

 

lol.

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In the end it was said the thread went because information was divulged that was legally not on... or some such.

. And, at the same time, a lot of people were for the experiment of losing WOYM.

So it got axed.

 

 

[disclaimer ] I know it reads like beating a dead horse, but there is a point :) [ / Disclaimer ]

 

Where are all those lots of people ? They're not really here now much at all if ever ;)

 

Mac Dude is still here, but he has trouble putting his thread in the right section :P

Just_Some_Guy ( with his lettuce love ) / Virt ?

Juggalo Scrubs ?

There's enough political correctness to deal with from outside as it is ...

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10 years ago, we were younger and didn't have lives. Well not many of us dos any way.

Those people you mentioned, including myself, lives have changed, careers have expanded and children have been produced.

 

In this fast paced world it's just a hell of a lot easier to interact on Facebook and such.

 

 

If you want to PM me your name I'll happily add you to my Facebook friends list :)

 

 

For the record, I'm typing this on my iPhone. First time I've ever done it.

I'm upstairs about to start with dinner and it requires more than my thumb to find this page, bookmark it, sign in and comment.

Hopefully it's not too difficult to do so in the future, but it's not ideal.

Tablet would be easier, but I don't walk around with one of those in my pocket :)

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If you already have some Atomicans as Facebook friends, there's a strong chance that our paths have already crossed...

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10 years ago, we were younger and didn't have lives. Well not many of us dos any way.

Those people you mentioned, including myself, lives have changed, careers have expanded and children have been produced.

 

In this fast paced world it's just a hell of a lot easier to interact on Facebook and such.

 

 

If you want to PM me your name I'll happily add you to my Facebook friends list :)

 

 

For the record, I'm typing this on my iPhone. First time I've ever done it.

I'm upstairs about to start with dinner and it requires more than my thumb to find this page, bookmark it, sign in and comment.

Hopefully it's not too difficult to do so in the future, but it's not ideal.

Tablet would be easier, but I don't walk around with one of those in my pocket :)

You misunderstand me, I mentioned those people as those who thought WOYM should go in order to help

the thread count and then they and others virtually disappeared... I mean geez ;)

 

I don't do fb, but thanks all the same.

 

See you can be mobile and still be here :D

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I can.

 

I've come up with another thought though.

In Facebook, I can just post a single photo. If I've taken something nice, bam, up it goes.

I don't need a thread title. I don't need meaningful content. I don't need to even fkn think!

 

I can't do that on Atomic. And nor should I be able to.

I guess that's possibly what made me start posting again?

The desire to interact with people in a different way.

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And you can choose what grots see it haha.

 

eveln, bit hard to see why this forum is falling short when you're not venturing out into the wider social networking space :)

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eveln, bit hard to see why this forum is falling short when you're not venturing out into the wider social networking space :)

Hah ! you think I talk tooooo much ? ... :)

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I wonder if you can link your facebook pics in the forum ,i tried once all you have to do is make pictures available to public. Only problem posters will now you name and address.

 

 

No. You bypass whatever security is on your account, and hardlink the URL to the fb hosted pics. The people clicking the link see only the photo and nothing about you or your profile or facebook.

 

 

We've never been once to be scared of repetitive topics. People just stay out if they're not interested.

 

make new threads people!

It's an etiquette thing. Once, the norm was to not start new threads. Then things changed, because people found it too hard to look at date/timestamps before getting riled up and replying to necro'd stuff.

 

 

I'm seeing tech related threads in the Green Room now....since when was that permitted?

Honestly? I view the forums using the 'new content' aggregate page. I have NFI what subforum anything is in, and only notice it's in the wrong place if it's RTM'd.

 

 

 

FWIW, the latest version of this forum software was specifically made to allow much tighter integration with other social platforms. I don't know if it creates a low enough barrier, but it's meant to be better than past efforts.

 

(We're not using the latest version of this forum software)

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From what I've experienced the integration isn't so hot.

 

And for me, using Facebook or Google+ credentials to logon to somewhere that's totally non affiliated is just asking for trouble.

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It's funny, but I think the forums are valuable BECAUSE they aren't facebook.

 

Is it healthy to have a world where only people you like, who share the same opinions and values are allowed? Isn't that the start of an echo chamber? Isn't that kind of insular existence exactly what many people claim to be the issue with certain religions and ways of life?

 

Yeah, facebook is easy. Twitter is easy. But they aren't always HEALTHY.

 

This place allows you - forces you - to interact with the world in all its shapes, colors and irritations. It FORCES you to think about what you are posting and the impact of it. It FORCES you to have an opinion about your breakfast formulated before you show us your vegemite toast.

 

I can't possibly see that as a bad thing. :)

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It's funny, but I think the forums are valuable BECAUSE they aren't facebook.

 

Is it healthy to have a world where only people you like, who share the same opinions and values are allowed? Isn't that the start of an echo chamber? Isn't that kind of insular existence exactly what many people claim to be the issue with certain religions and ways of life?

 

Yeah, facebook is easy. Twitter is easy. But they aren't always HEALTHY.

 

This place allows you - forces you - to interact with the world in all its shapes, colors and irritations. It FORCES you to think about what you are posting and the impact of it. It FORCES you to have an opinion about your breakfast formulated before you show us your vegemite toast.

 

I can't possibly see that as a bad thing. :)

 

Agree that it's good to have differing opinions :) I don't think using Facebook means insulating yourself from people with different mindsets or beliefs. I often get into "debates" with people having a different worldview than mine. It's especially easy on community pages, like the one for my local physical community, or the atomic facebook page, or even commenting on a friends post when that friend has friends that aren't you friends and they have different opinions. That obviously just because you're friends on facebook doesn't mean you have the same opinions on everything :) Much like just because we all come to atomic and share a similar interest or two, we're not all friend material.

 

I like forums. More of my keystrokes go into forums than any other form of social networking. Facebook and definitely Twitter are not restricted to just people who share the same opinions and values as oneself :)

 

Atomic, and specialist forums like the sim-racing forums I frequent are, through being specialist forums, already helping me to have commonalities with people here I can selective participate in discussions by choosing to read/reply to certain threads, or even to respond to people replying to my comments. All behind a modicum of anonymity too, bonus! I post thoughtless shit all the time - no forcing required :D

 

I agree the forum isn't a bad thing tho! :)

 

 

edit: whoops. Forgot. This forum has caused me plenty of stress and late night grrrrrr over debates at times over the year. not healthy either :)

 

tl;dr same deal just different channel.

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One thing i like about these forums no one is ever after your real life ID. In Facebook you have to watch the permissions and who is watching over your shoulder all the time.

 

Secondly the atmosphere kinda feels like a candy store you just want to have a go at posting in an area.

 

Forums could do with a new colour scheme ,green is getting old. Maybe purple could be a nice colour.

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I agree with you, Chaos.

Perhaps I'm being a bit confusing.

What I'm saying is, I think Facebook is the reason people have found another way to communicate with each other, however Facebook is certainly not a replacement for a forum, nor should it be.

Forums are for more in depth discussions. I'm in no way saying that Atomic should be more like Facebook. Not at all.

 

We are just making observations...

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One thing i like about these forums no one is ever after your real life ID. In Facebook you have to watch the permissions and who is watching over your shoulder all the time.

 

The anonymity is what I enjoyed here the most. Well, up until I started attending meets. No one knew who was who, really. And that made interacting with people very mysterious. Everyone was whipped into a frenzy when we had threads where people would reveal certain parts of their real lives, even their names and or photos...of THEMSELVES...OMG!

 

Then the nudie threads, they were always a laugh. Sometimes I'd sit there and inspect people's pics so much, because I'd been interacting with them for years not knowing what they actually looked like. Then to see them in the flesh, well that was fantastic.

 

Facebook does away with all that mystique. Well, mostly. It's not that hard to put up a fake account and not show actual pics of yourself.

But I have heaps of pics. Which is why I'm fairly selective about who I add to my friend list.

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