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after he had poured over all the case files

BTW, that's pored, there
pawed... xD
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You should prolly get into Slayer, pretty...

 

 

after he had poured over all the case files

BTW, that's pored, there

 

Fixed it :)

 

Lovely video there too :S For a while I actually didn't mind Slayer, but I haven't listened to their music in a long while now.

 

 

 

 

Oh my God !

 

 

Finally someone who I can share my sick interests with :D

 

 

The first I heard of John Wayne Gacy and Ed Gein was way back in Year 9. Actually my mates and I found it to be hugely entertaining because we would just start calling the teachers Gacy after awhile. One of my friends was so obsessed with Gacy, he went onto the school printers and printed out a picture of Gacy in his clown outfit and carried it with him, showed it to people then would say "Gacy needs to get some sleep now" and put it back in his pocket.

 

The funny thing is that for an English drama assessment my mate and I actually did a scene from the movie 'Gacy'. It was so funnY, because everyone in the classroom, was just like ... "WTF!".

 

Bundy .... Oh Bundy, he is probably hailed as one of the most intelligent psychopaths to ever live, Gacy was not far off considering he to was pretty much accepted amongst his community (pre-killings) as the go to guy, although he did have his own sexual perversions during that time.

 

Ed Gein, he is extremely fascinating to me, probably one of the reasons why I have grown up to be really open and intrigued about the human anatomy, me knowing him had sort of allowed me to excel in human biology, because rather than looking at human body parts and cadavers as being disgusting I was rather fascinated and made me look more into it (I was labelled in my human biology class as having the perfect cut which was pretty cool).

 

I mean using human body parts as suits, cups and upholstery .... how much more inventive can you be.

 

What really makes me interested in serial killers such as them, is how they thought and what type of minds they had. Bringing themselves to the conclusions as they did is just so interesting to read about and study. I might be giving a little more praise than I should about people who take the lives of others but the way they actually killed there victims, stepped into the territory of corpses and dismemberment just makes such unique serial killers compared to other serial killers who just walk around with a gun and shoot loads of people. Bundy is a huge one, crossed soooo many states and admitted to his mother on the night of his execution that he did murder those women he was suspected of, more to the point also stated to a detective that "Add a digit to the amount of women he killed", is how much more he killed than first suspected.

I dunno if I would classify Ed Gein's uses of body parts as "inventive". I'm more fascinated by him, and who he is and trying to work my way around what his thought processes might have been. I actually feel some sympathy for Ed. I think his mum really did some damage. Of course that doesn't remove any of the blame or guilt from Ed, but you know, it somehow makes things clearer...

 

 

Ted Bundy is the one that really fascinates me. He is so smart, so manipulative and so disturbing. He just doesn't look like I imagine a killer to look like. I imagine killers to look like Peter Dupas or Andrei Chikatilo , you know? With the creepy eyes and all that. But Ted Bundy is good looking and incredibly intelligent. And I know if I had come across his path, and he had popped out of now where with a cast on his arm and dropped some books at uni, then I would have helped pick them up.

 

 

What they actually do to people and to their bodies is disgusting and there's no questioning that. But what they are, who they are... the questions are never ending in trying to find some kind of answer. But yeah, like you said Mr.F, sometimes those answers are even more disturbing than the actual crimes.

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I find it quite facinating how they can be profiled so easily (although this can be applied to all people?) and can generally fit into a 'type' of killer - angel of death, for example.

 

How the simple things, like the position of a body can tell you a vast amount of information about why they kill.

 

Why they kill is not much of an interest to me. They'e fucked up in some form or another, that's why. It's something a sane mind is almost incapable of comprehending.

 

What caused it, how they do it and how we fight against it, that's what I like.

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I guess the disturbing thing which makes them far more interesting than a one off killer is how they can switch off their humanity for so long or indefinitely so they can indiscriminately kill people they don't even know. To be able to do that without being haunted by the effect on the victims families and all the other consequences is fascinating.

 

I probably shouldn't admit this but I have been so enraged by some people I have planned ways to kill them. Very intricate plans I imagine a serial killer would perform, much more than a one off murderer who might act more on impulse or make very basic plans. But the possibility of getting caught, the weight of what I had done and my morality would not let me even start to put these plans into motion. I am definitely curious as to how someone could meticulously plan the abduction, torture and death of another human - especially when not motivated by personal rage directed toward the victim.

 

The voices are telling me to go for a walk in the dark now so.....

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When i grow up, i'm going to be a serial killer.

Great career choice.

 

i think i should warn you, its a cut-throat business.

 

 

I agree, it's also a deadend job

 

 

 

 

 

One thing that I find funny though, is I used to have a lot of goth friends who used to say they'd love to meet Ramirez and sit in a room and talk to him. I honestly think if you put them in the situation they'd be pretty scared. He's not like Ted Bundy, who was pretty normal. Just sitting across a table from Ramirez, with him staring at me, would give me chills. I used to keep telling them it's not Twiggy Ramirez, it's the real deal.

 

I'm not exactly fascinated by serial killers, but some are interesting. Go have a look on Youtube for Ted Bundy's last interview. Very calm and well mannered person who seems to be pretty damn intelligent. The interviewer brought up porn and hinted Ted should say it was due to porn etc and every single time it came up Ted would always take the blame on himself and admit it was him but he also warns people of what made him into what he was. He also pointed out that he was just a normal person. I find him more interesting because he's far more normal than the psychotic looking serial killers. You could live next to him, see him go off to work for the day, come home at night, have a chat with him and you'd have never known he'd killed 2 women that day.

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I find it quite facinating how they can be profiled so easily (although this can be applied to all people?) and can generally fit into a 'type' of killer - angel of death, for example.

 

How the simple things, like the position of a body can tell you a vast amount of information about why they kill.

 

Why they kill is not much of an interest to me. They'e fucked up in some form or another, that's why. It's something a sane mind is almost incapable of comprehending.

 

What caused it, how they do it and how we fight against it, that's what I like.

Yeah, the art of criminal profiling is amazing. I was reading something the other day about organised and disorganised killers, and just how much information that factor revealed about the killer. It even went so far to say that organised killers were more likely to be among the older children in their family, while disorganised killers were more likely to be the younger ones. How crazy is that?

 

 

 

One thing that I find funny though, is I used to have a lot of goth friends who used to say they'd love to meet Ramirez and sit in a room and talk to him. I honestly think if you put them in the situation they'd be pretty scared. He's not like Ted Bundy, who was pretty normal. Just sitting across a table from Ramirez, with him staring at me, would give me chills. I used to keep telling them it's not Twiggy Ramirez, it's the real deal.

 

I'm not exactly fascinated by serial killers, but some are interesting. Go have a look on Youtube for Ted Bundy's last interview. Very calm and well mannered person who seems to be pretty damn intelligent. The interviewer brought up porn and hinted Ted should say it was due to porn etc and every single time it came up Ted would always take the blame on himself and admit it was him but he also warns people of what made him into what he was. He also pointed out that he was just a normal person. I find him more interesting because he's far more normal than the psychotic looking serial killers. You could live next to him, see him go off to work for the day, come home at night, have a chat with him and you'd have never known he'd killed 2 women that day.

Yeah, I just watched Ted Bundy's last interview. It's a bit dodgy with the interviewer guy clearly pushing this whole anti-porn thing, and would have been more interesting if it didn't seem as though Ted was trying to give him the answers that the interviewer wanted. I dunno... I couldn't help but see that whole interview as a way of just watching Ted Bundy put on his performance of normality and what he expected. I mean, the guy was amazingly manipulative and cunning and intelligent.

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Pretty i have a book here that my husband is reading called "Serial Killers" raging from William The Conqueror to Aileen Wuornos, David Berkowitz, Ho Chi-Minh, Ted Bundy, Albert Fish to name a few. I just glanced through it... quite interesting.

 

The book was written by Rodney Castleden if you want to look for it.

 

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There was only one serial killer that really gave me the creeps, I cant remember what his name was but the story was he was about 7ft tall and was quoted saying something like this

 

"when i see a pretty girl ,part of me wants to ask her out ,and another part wonders what her head would look like on a stick"

 

Apparently he had a huge IQ as well.

 

Ill research who it was , then come back and edit this post

Sounds like Ed Kemper from the description, but the actual quote could be from American Psycho.

 

You might be getting it mixed up with the fact that Kemper killed (one of many victims) a pretty nurse and drove across 2 states of the US wearing her head like a hat. All this before finally getting up the nerve to take it out on the person who arguably created him, his mother, whom he took out with a hammer.

 

Needless to say, I too have a fascination with serial killers, always have since I knew what they were. Not that I glorify their crimes in any way, but their psychology fascinates me.

 

 

Thats the guy, Ed Kemper

 

 

Here is a bit from Wikipedia

 

"A quotation originally from Kemper, phrased as "When I see a pretty girl walking down the street, I think two things. One part of me wants to take her out and talk to her, be real nice and sweet and treat her right. [And the other part of me thinks] what her head would look like on a stick", is mentioned by fictional serial killer Patrick Bateman in the Bret Easton Ellis novel American Psycho, as well as the film adaptation of the same name. In both the novel and the film, the character misattributes the quote to another serial killer, Ed Gein"

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