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How many people who are charged with resisting Police actually end up in Jail xnatex? I'd wager that most don't, especially if they plead guilty and show remorse. He's got 300 hours community service, which I think is a half decent punishment for a guilty plea and a "sorry". If he denied accusations, and tried to defend his actions, sure, I'd want to see some jail time.

 

Also, you want to say this guy endangered civilians, so deserves to be punished, well, running a red light isn't exactly safe mate, so I'd agree with you being fined.

 

On the topic of the woman being killed for apparently wanting to get a job. How about this man killing his wife for waking him up? You can say what you want, everywhere in the world there are crazy people, who say and do crazy things. It's not fair on Americans to say everyone is a gun-toting hillbilly, and it's not fair on Afghanis to say everyone is a wife-killer.

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The difference is its against the law to treat women like shit in America and the rest of the democratic world, But places like "The Islamic Republic of Iran" and other countries in the Islamic world its in the law that women ARE pieces of shit http://www.amnesty.org.au/iar/comments/24123/

 

People treat people like shit all around the world, but if the law of the land condones the sort of behaviour its so much worse.

 

" A girl, however, can be tried, punished and sentenced to death when she is merely 8 years old."

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Well Xnatex it would be lovely to let these people move to Australia, start a new life and live peacefully, maybe have a job and a life that doesn't result living in fear every day ..

 

oh wait sorry we hate boat people here, best to just let them stay there then rather than jumping on a boat, coming to Australia and destroying our mone... country.

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They're second generation refugees, the ironic thing is they carried on with the same behaviour their parents left their homelands to get away from.

 

A good idea would be to send some of these locally born Muslims back to the shitholes that their ancestors fled from for a visit. It'd give them an appreciation of what freedoms they have here and might teach them to show the respect deserved to this country's laws and those employed to uphold them.

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They're second generation refugees, the ironic thing is they carried on with the same behaviour their parents left their homelands to get away from.

 

A good idea would be to send some of these locally born Muslims back to the shitholes that their ancestors fled from for a visit. It'd give them an appreciation of what freedoms they have here and might teach them to show the respect deserved to this country's laws and those employed to uphold them.

What "behavior"?

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They're second generation refugees, the ironic thing is they carried on with the same behaviour their parents left their homelands to get away from.

 

A good idea would be to send some of these locally born Muslims back to the shitholes that their ancestors fled from for a visit. It'd give them an appreciation of what freedoms they have here and might teach them to show the respect deserved to this country's laws and those employed to uphold them.

 

Careful what you wish for.

If it can happen there it can (in fact it is) happen here.

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They're second generation refugees, the ironic thing is they carried on with the same behaviour their parents left their homelands to get away from.

 

A good idea would be to send some of these locally born Muslims back to the shitholes that their ancestors fled from for a visit. It'd give them an appreciation of what freedoms they have here and might teach them to show the respect deserved to this country's laws and those employed to uphold them.

 

Careful what you wish for.

If it can happen there it can (in fact it is) happen here.

 

You may be pissing yourself with fear prematurely. Islamic people make up 2% of the Australian population.

 

Awesome source to. Really fair and balanced.

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You may be pissing yourself with fear prematurely. Islamic people make up 2% of the Australian population.

Maybe for now, but at the rate they're pouring in how long until they have enough voting power to make a difference? Do YOU want to live in a country run my sharia? Cos I sure the fuck don't. I guess the one small thing is that they don't claim to have prior ownership here. Maybe we should bacon-bomb the whole country from orbit, just to be sure.

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You may be pissing yourself with fear prematurely. Islamic people make up 2% of the Australian population.

Maybe for now, but at the rate they're pouring in how long until they have enough voting power to make a difference? Do YOU want to live in a country run my sharia? Cos I sure the fuck don't. I guess the one small thing is that they don't claim to have prior ownership here. Maybe we should bacon-bomb the whole country from orbit, just to be sure.

 

 

what 'rate' are they pouring in that support sharia law?

 

that'd have to be a lot of them to sway votes enough to make a difference in power.

 

 

I guess it's ok to have Christians influencing voting/having enough power to make a difference.

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You may be pissing yourself with fear prematurely. Islamic people make up 2% of the Australian population.

Maybe for now, but at the rate they're pouring in how long until they have enough voting power to make a difference? Do YOU want to live in a country run my sharia? Cos I sure the fuck don't. I guess the one small thing is that they don't claim to have prior ownership here. Maybe we should bacon-bomb the whole country from orbit, just to be sure.

 

 

what 'rate' are they pouring in that support sharia law?

 

that'd have to be a lot of them to sway votes enough to make a difference in power.

 

 

I guess it's ok to have Christians influencing voting/having enough power to make a difference.

 

 

FFS here we go.

 

what 'rate' are they pouring in that support sharia law?

Why don't you tell me? If you don't know the figures then they could be anything, even 100%, so let me know OK?

 

that'd have to be a lot of them to sway votes enough to make a difference in power.

51% in any given location?

 

I guess it's ok to have Christians influencing voting/having enough power to make a difference.

It's OK to have ANY group do that stuff as long as they are not advocating violence, hatred, ignorance, intolerance and barbarism. But when you can make a case for any other particular group causing the kind of strife and division that Islam is doing at the moment THEN you can derail the thread with irrelevancies mmk? This thread is about Islam, not Christianity, not Buddhism, not Hinduism etc, feel free to start any threads you like but if you want to convince anyone (other than Hlass of course) of Islams benign nature then you're going to have to provide some evidence for that over and above the abundance of evidence to the contrary.

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what 'rate' are they pouring in that support sharia law?

Why don't you tell me? If you don't know the figures then they could be anything, even 100%, so let me know OK?

 

No, if you are going to throw stuff around saying 'the rate they're pouring' perhaps you should actually back up your statement with facts/figures rather than fear mongering.

 

 

that'd have to be a lot of them to sway votes enough to make a difference in power.

51% in any given location?

 

Any given location? To bring in Sharia law it have to affect the system at State or Fedaral level. That's a whole lot of people who would have to support Sharia law.

You do know that not all Muslims support sharia law right?

 

They also would have to be come Australian Citizens to be able to vote. How many of them are becoming Citizens and how many are staying as Permanent Residents?

 

 

In 1996 1.1% of Religious Affiliation in Australia was Muslim

In 2006 1.7% of Religious Affiliation in Australia was Muslim

In 2011 2.2% of Religious Affiliation in Australia was Muslim

 

Yup looks like the Muslims are 'pouring' into Australia!

 

 

I'm more worried about how fast Buddhism is growing in Australia, it won't be long now till they get 51% of the vote and force us all to be vegetarians!!!

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You may be pissing yourself with fear prematurely. Islamic people make up 2% of the Australian population.

Maybe for now, but at the rate they're pouring in how long until they have enough voting power to make a difference? Do YOU want to live in a country run my sharia? Cos I sure the fuck don't. I guess the one small thing is that they don't claim to have prior ownership here. Maybe we should bacon-bomb the whole country from orbit, just to be sure.

 

 

what 'rate' are they pouring in that support sharia law?

 

that'd have to be a lot of them to sway votes enough to make a difference in power.

 

 

I guess it's ok to have Christians influencing voting/having enough power to make a difference.

 

"The "National-Socialist Freedom Movement" polled 3% of the vote in the December 1924 Reichstag elections, and this fell to 2.6% in 1928."

 

I wonder how many people in Germany had the same attitude of "the Nazi's only make up around 2% of the German vote, nothing to worry about"

 

Nek minut

 

They bring the total arrivals this year to 205 boats carrying 13,109 asylum-seekers and 274 crew. The figure is just 435 people shy of the entire arrivals during John Howard's almost 12-years in office which saw 241 boats arrive in Australian waters carrying 13,544 asylum-seekers.

 

So just this year thats over 13,000 Brain washed Islamic idiots coming to Australia in 2012 from countries where a woman is worth half a man, that the only legal system is Sharia law and Islam is the government they all live under.

 

Living under Islam and living in a democracy is the same as someone who is a Christian who believes in Evolution, they are in direct contradiction of each other.

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I just love you guys and your mass generalizations of a Religion.

 

so you know for a fact that this 'over 13,000 people' are actually Muslim?

Were they asked as they were processed of their religion?

Is this publicly available so we can view these stats?

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that'd have to be a lot of them to sway votes enough to make a difference in power.

51% in any given location?

 

Any given location? To bring in Sharia law it have to affect the system at State or Fedaral level. That's a whole lot of people who would have to support Sharia law.

You do know that not all Muslims support sharia law right?

 

 

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/07/uk-there...-violent-e.html

 

Thats incorrect, Islam does not recognise democracy as a legitimate form of government, Islamic groups all around the whold who enforce Sharia Law do so through violence and force. Not through democratic channels. This is a main factor in the War on Terror

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what 'rate' are they pouring in that support sharia law?

Why don't you tell me? If you don't know the figures then they could be anything, even 100%, so let me know OK?

 

 

No, if you are going to throw stuff around saying 'the rate they're pouring' perhaps you should actually back up your statement with facts/figures rather than fear mongering.

 

That 2.2% is 437000 of them, 61.4% being immigrants. That's 268000 Muslim immigrants. So you are correct, it's not enough to make a political difference...yet. But that was my point, look at the other civilised nations where they have been taking in Muslim 'refugees' for longer than us and see what's happening there. Sweden, Denmark, France, England etc, it's not about 'fear mongering' it's a wake up call before it's too late.

 

 

that'd have to be a lot of them to sway votes enough to make a difference in power.

51% in any given location?

 

Any given location? To bring in Sharia law it have to affect the system at State or Fedaral level. That's a whole lot of people who would have to support Sharia law.

You do know that not all Muslims support sharia law right?

 

They also would have to be come Australian Citizens to be able to vote. How many of them are becoming Citizens and how many are staying as Permanent Residents?

 

 

In 1996 1.1% of Religious Affiliation in Australia was Muslim

In 2006 1.7% of Religious Affiliation in Australia was Muslim

In 2011 2.2% of Religious Affiliation in Australia was Muslim

 

Yup looks like the Muslims are 'pouring' into Australia!

 

 

I'm more worried about how fast Buddhism is growing in Australia, it won't be long now till they get 51% of the vote and force us all to be vegetarians!!!

 

Heh, I'd much rather live under a Buddhist regime than a Muslim one, more power to them! Of course a minority of Muslims would sort out a majority of Buddhists in no time flat.

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I just love you guys and your mass generalizations of a Religion.

 

so you know for a fact that this 'over 13,000 people' are actually Muslim?

Were they asked as they were processed of their religion?

Is this publicly available so we can view these stats?

Do a google search and you will see all the boat people are either from Pakistan, Iraq, Afganistan or Iran. This is publicly available information and nearly always reported, Look at any news article where it says a asylum boat was intercepted and it will tell you who is on board.

 

Considering these people are coming from countries where wikipedia reports as 99% muslim states it is safe to say what religion they are

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that'd have to be a lot of them to sway votes enough to make a difference in power.

51% in any given location?

 

Any given location? To bring in Sharia law it have to affect the system at State or Fedaral level. That's a whole lot of people who would have to support Sharia law.

You do know that not all Muslims support sharia law right?

 

 

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/07/uk-there...-violent-e.html

 

Thats incorrect, Islam does not recognise democracy as a legitimate form of government, Islamic groups all around the whold who enforce Sharia Law do so through violence and force. Not through democratic channels. This is a main factor in the War on Terror

 

 

Point taken. :)

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About 80 years ago you'd all be complaining about those damn Italians and Greeks 'pouring in', I think the only people who had actual legitimate concern for the 'pouring in' of people were the aborigines.

 

Don't worry white people, no one is going to try and take away your precious lifestyle or make you live under sharia law, I mean so far the only thing which has happened whcih supports your point of view is two hundred out of hundreds of thousands of muslims living in the country going on a riot.

 

You white people already had a riot involving over 5000 people in Cronulla, so in terms of inanity and propensity towards violent rioting over pointless shit your position as #1 in this country is pretty damned assured.

 

 

Also saying 'google it' is just another way of saying 'I like pulling shit out of my ass and spouting it as fact, stop questioning me! You need to be more like me, don't question what you're told just accept it all as fact!', you need to either make with the citations or just accept you're a stupid bigoted idiot who reads hate blogs like 'jihad watch' and thinks they're anywhere near accurate :) I mean if you're going to be linking to 'Jihad Watch' you might as well listen to Alan Jones and claim Gillards father died of shame because Alan Jones said so.

 

Burden of proof is always on the one making the claims ;)

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Origin of asylum seekers

 

 

 

In terms of regions of origin, nearly half of the total 377,000 applicants originate from Asia and the Middle East (45%), followed by Africa (29%), Europe (15.5%), and the Americas (9%), the UN says.

 

Afghanistan 26,800

 

Iraq: 24,000

 

Somalia: 22,600

 

- Afghans topped the list of asylum applicants with 26,800 submissions representing a 45 per cent increase over 2008.

 

- Iraqis dropped to second place with some 24,000 claims, while Somalis moved to third position with 22,600 asylum applications.

 

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/1221132...round-the-globe

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About 80 years ago you'd all be complaining about those damn Italians and Greeks 'pouring in', I think the only people who had actual legitimate concern for the 'pouring in' of people were the aborigines.

 

Don't worry white people, no one is going to try and take away your precious life style, I mean so far the only thing which has hhappened whcih supports your point of view is 200 out of hundreds of thousands of muslims living in the country going on a riot. You white people already had a riot involving over 5000 people in Cronulla, so in terms of inanity and propensity towards violent rioting over pointless shit your position as #1 in this country is pretty damned assured.

 

:)

 

Try to see the big (global and historical) picture man. (Your point about the aborigines is legitimate and acknowledged, trouble is that none of us can change or are responsible for the past. )

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About 80 years ago you'd all be complaining about those damn Italians and Greeks 'pouring in', I think the only people who had actual legitimate concern for the 'pouring in' of people were the aborigines.

 

Don't worry white people, no one is going to try and take away your precious lifestyle or make you live under sharia law, I mean so far the only thing which has happened whcih supports your point of view is two hundred out of hundreds of thousands of muslims living in the country going on a riot.

 

You white people already had a riot involving over 5000 people in Cronulla, so in terms of inanity and propensity towards violent rioting over pointless shit your position as #1 in this country is pretty damned assured.

No, 80 years ago i would be complaining about Nazi's and Commuinists. The other Authoritarian Regimes just like Islam.

 

I know quite a few people know who have been killed by Islamic militants, you down playing the violence is kind of insulting to every country who has been involved in the War against extremist Islam for the last 10 years

 

It is funny how you think the most violent thing to happen to australians is the riot. what about this?

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Bali_bombings

 

or this

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holsworthy_Barracks_terror_plot

 

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/archive/n...r-1226224462153

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About 80 years ago you'd all be complaining about those damn Italians and Greeks 'pouring in', I think the only people who had actual legitimate concern for the 'pouring in' of people were the aborigines.

 

Don't worry white people, no one is going to try and take away your precious life style, I mean so far the only thing which has hhappened whcih supports your point of view is 200 out of hundreds of thousands of muslims living in the country going on a riot. You white people already had a riot involving over 5000 people in Cronulla, so in terms of inanity and propensity towards violent rioting over pointless shit your position as #1 in this country is pretty damned assured.

 

:)

 

Try to see the big (global and historical) picture man. (Your point about the aborigines is legitimate and acknowledged, trouble is that none of us can change or are responsible for the past. )

 

I think that before we try and act like righteous people who are being 'flooded' by a bunch of refugees we should clean up our own backyard.

 

You're right in that we can't go back in time and do things differently with the Aborigines however we can today act in ways that will improve the quality of lives of the aborigines. Right now most of them seem to have effectively eben banished into towns out in the middle of no where and basically left to fend for themselves with a minimal amount of government support and no real way they can go to improve their own futures.

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thats the biggest load of horse shit, there is no case of positive racism in australia stronger then what is happening to aboriginals. If you have some Black blood, you will financially be better off then any other person and you will have more opportunities, your lack of knowledge about Australia is actually quite amazing

 

http://www.humanservices.gov.au/customer/s...trelink/abstudy

 

To get ABSTUDY, you must be:

 

an Australian citizen

an Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander Australian

 

 

education costs

accommodation costs

living costs

fares (to travel to your place of study each term or semester if you need to study away from home)

prescription medicine costs

 

This is also irrelevant to the topic

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About 80 years ago you'd all be complaining about those damn Italians and Greeks 'pouring in', I think the only people who had actual legitimate concern for the 'pouring in' of people were the aborigines.

 

Don't worry white people, no one is going to try and take away your precious life style, I mean so far the only thing which has hhappened whcih supports your point of view is 200 out of hundreds of thousands of muslims living in the country going on a riot. You white people already had a riot involving over 5000 people in Cronulla, so in terms of inanity and propensity towards violent rioting over pointless shit your position as #1 in this country is pretty damned assured.

 

:)

 

Try to see the big (global and historical) picture man. (Your point about the aborigines is legitimate and acknowledged, trouble is that none of us can change or are responsible for the past. )

 

I think that before we try and act like righteous people who are being 'flooded' by a bunch of refugees we should clean up our own backyard.

 

You're right in that we can't go back in time and do things differently with the Aborigines however we can today act in ways that will improve the quality of lives of the aborigines. Right now most of them seem to have effectively eben banished into towns out in the middle of no where and basically left to fend for themselves with a minimal amount of government support and no real way they can go to improve their own futures.

 

Maybe, but that's a separate topic and I don't see that allowing unchecked immigration in the name of helping 'refugees' is going to help anyone, Aborigines or otherwise. You think Islam will grant them the same respect for sacred sites that we currently do? :)

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that'd have to be a lot of them to sway votes enough to make a difference in power.

51% in any given location?

 

Any given location? To bring in Sharia law it have to affect the system at State or Fedaral level. That's a whole lot of people who would have to support Sharia law.

You do know that not all Muslims support sharia law right?

 

 

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/07/uk-there...-violent-e.html

 

Thats incorrect, Islam does not recognise democracy as a legitimate form of government, Islamic groups all around the whold who enforce Sharia Law do so through violence and force. Not through democratic channels. This is a main factor in the War on Terror

 

 

Point taken. :)

 

How is that point taken? The kid putting the signs up was British born, and converted to Islam. It has nothing to do with boat people, or increasing Muslim population through immigration.

 

xnatex tried to make a point saying refugees will come here and try to enforce their old countries laws on us, by linking a story about a British-born boy, putting stickers on bus stops... It's completely irrelevant to the point he was trying to prove.

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