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Okay you wily builders, it's been a couple of years since I built my sons PC and it's time to catch up a bit. I'll have about $400 for the parts, and I'm begging for help in coming up with the best combination of MoBo, RAM, CPU and GPU that we can squeeze into that budget.

I'll reuse his existing case, power supply, drives and peripherals.

I'd like to have 8GB RAM. The GPU should be a few generations more recent than his Nvidia 210. The MB must support USB3 and SATA 3.

He'll be running Windows 7, moving to 8 when it's stable in the wild.

He's a gamer, mostly FPS.

The monitor runs 1920x1080.

HELP!

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Okay you wily builders, it's been a couple of years since I built my sons PC and it's time to catch up a bit. I'll have about $400 for the parts, and I'm begging for help in coming up with the best combination of MoBo, RAM, CPU and GPU that we can squeeze into that budget.

I'll reuse his existing case, power supply, drives and peripherals.

I'd like to have 8GB RAM. The GPU should be a few generations more recent than his Nvidia 210. The MB must support USB3 and SATA 3.

He'll be running Windows 7, moving to 8 when it's stable in the wild.

He's a gamer, mostly FPS.

The monitor runs 1920x1080.

HELP!

Can you list all the parts you already have

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The best selection I can determine by myself is:

Corsair CMP8GX3M2A1600C9 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3

Gigabyte GeForce GT 630 2GB

Intel Core i3 3220

ASUS P8B75-M-LX Motherboard

 

Have I missed a trick?

 

@pigs - No, different house. And as I am not replacing them, why?

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The best selection I can determine by myself is:

Corsair CMP8GX3M2A1600C9 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3

Gigabyte GeForce GT 630 2GB

Intel Core i3 3220

ASUS P8B75-M-LX Motherboard

 

Have I missed a trick?

 

@pigs - No, different house. And as I am not replacing them, why?

 

As you said upgrade i thought there could be reusable parts for example there could have being an AM3 motherboard.

 

This is just my opinion with such a budget I'd be look to 2nd hand parts, but otherwise the parts you listed are perfectly fine

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what is the current psu?

 

unfortunatly this mb\cpu canot be overclocked

i5 3450 $189 bf3 can run ok on a dual core cpu with ht but it will be smoother with a quad

Asrock H71M-DGS $48

4g stick $19 you can always add more ram

 

for 1920x1080 you want the best gpu you can afford if high detail settings are wanted

Gigabyte ATI HD 7770 OC Edition, PCI-E 3.0, 1GB 128-bit $119

Sapphire HD7850 2G.2G 256Bit GDDR5 $210

Sapphire HD7870 GHZ 2G.2G 256Bit GDDR5 $249

prices are from umart

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Dasa - I don't overclock. If a component comes 'pre-overclocked' then I'll use it, but I cbf dicking around for a few MHz. Nor can I afford adding better cooling to deal with more heat.

He currently has an Nvidia GT210 gpu, so anything's an advance. I'd rather spend a few extra bucks on more reliable RAM, and the $400 is a fairly solid limit.

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a $36 hsf will allow you to take a 3570k from 3.4ghz to 4.4ghz just by changing the multi from 34 to 44 and maybe a small increase in vcore so its well worth it but unfortunately that cpu and a z77 mb is outside the budget

7770 is probably the best bet for the gpu then and should allow you to make it under budget

 

you dont need to spend a heap of money on ram the cheap stuff is usualy fine and comes with a warranty like anything else but you can spend a few $ more for gskil or corsair with lifetime warranty if you want

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The best selection I can determine by myself is:

Corsair CMP8GX3M2A1600C9 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3

Gigabyte GeForce GT 630 2GB

Intel Core i3 3220

ASUS P8B75-M-LX Motherboard

 

Have I missed a trick?

 

@pigs - No, different house. And as I am not replacing them, why?

dont get the 630 if you cant pay much for a gpu go for an AMD 7770 or 7750

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Thanks Dasa! I'm a longtime nvidia fan, since Diamond was a company! But if the 7770 outperforms what I can afford in the 600 series then it makes sense, although I'll have to see what the RAM difference effects (1GB on the 7770 v 2GB on the 630).

Yes, the cheaper RAM is usually fine. Usually.

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gtx 550ti $114 would be about the best value you can afford from nvidia at the moment it performs much the same as the more expensive gtx650 and a bit slower than 7770

the 630 is really bad and isnt even new its just been re-bagged 3-4 times

gtx660 is decent value but its $229+ but outside the budget

Edited by Dasa

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Thanks Dasa! I'm a longtime nvidia fan, since Diamond was a company! But if the 7770 outperforms what I can afford in the 600 series then it makes sense, although I'll have to see what the RAM difference effects (1GB on the 7770 v 2GB on the 630).

Yes, the cheaper RAM is usually fine. Usually.

The main problem with the 630 and i am repeating an atomic article here is that it is the same as a 430 with more ram

 

i recommend you get:

Mobo: gigabyte ga-b75m-d3h

cpu: Intel i3-3240

ram: 8gb ddr3-1600

gpu: amd HD7770

Edited by noskcaj

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From pccg, with the 7770 and the i5

 

ASUS P8B75-M-LX Motherboard $69.00

Intel Core i5 2320 $179.00

Corsair CMP8GX3M2A1600C9 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 $69.00

Gigabyte Radeon HD7770 1GB Overclocked $125.00

$42 over budget, then add postage.

 

nosckaj - any strong reason for the gigabyte board over the Asus I'm looking at?

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From pccg, with the 7770 and the i5

 

ASUS P8B75-M-LX Motherboard $69.00

Intel Core i5 2320 $179.00

Corsair CMP8GX3M2A1600C9 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 $69.00

Gigabyte Radeon HD7770 1GB Overclocked $125.00

$42 over budget, then add postage.

 

nosckaj - any strong reason for the gigabyte board over the Asus I'm looking at?

Not really just the gigabyte has two pci-e ports instead of one plus a pci, depending on what the mobo will be used for that may be a possitive or negative thing

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Intel Core i5 2320 $179.00

ASRock B75M $65.00

Gigabyte Radeon HD7770 1GB Overclocked $125.00

G.Skill F3-10600CL9D-8GBNT (2x4GB) DDR3$35.00

$404 closer to budget and nothing really lost

im guessing you like asus but asrock is making some great quality gear now

 

Corsair CMX8GX3M2A1600C9 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 $45 this memory will make the cpu slightly faster probably not worth the extra

 

edit if your still tempted to go the gt630 look here its performance will be the same as gt430 http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX...Edition/27.html

as you can see the 6670 is twice as fast and can be had for the same price

Edited by Dasa

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Thanks again to both of you!

 

The $4 on the mobo is not an issue, the $34 on the RAM is significant and done!

I've used ASRock previously, no real issue just a preference.

$408 will do.

$816 (decided I'll upgrade mine as well - still running an Athlon 64 X2!)

$69 freight

2 machines hauled from the dark ages for under $900 - Well done Atomic!

 

ASUS P8B75-M-LX Motherboard $69.00

Intel Core i5 2320 $179.00

Gigabyte Radeon HD7770 1GB Overclocked $125.00

G.Skill F3-10600CL9D-8GBNT (2x4GB) DDR3 $35.00

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Mate, a parts list of the PC would be a great clue for us to recommend stuff. I know you're replacing them, but its just so that we are aware of whats being replaced and/or if you'd be better off keeping. Cheers.

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